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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Blake7 on February 07, 2009, 06:32:36 PM
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Schrage Muzik was an upward firing cannon mounted in nightfighters of the luftwaffe during WW2 usually in Bf110's
Can any one tell me what calibre the cannon was and what angle the gun was set at and were was it mounted on the A/C?
Also what was the "Mistel" Secret Weapon and what 3 Types of aircraft where used for it .?
What was the official name of the U.S. made "Flying Pancake"
What was the Full Name of the only U.S. aircraft During WW2 to feature a Pusher engine powerplant?
During ww2 what was the "Meteor" Used to specifically combat?
How Many P.51d's were shot Down By Me.262 Pilots
feel free to put in your own questions.
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Schrage Muzik was an upward firing cannon mounted in nightfighters of the luftwaffe during WW2 usually in Bf110's
Can any one tell me what calibre the cannon was and what angle the gun was set at and were was it mounted on the A/C?
Can't tell calibre of "the cannon" because during the war different weapons were used as Schräge Musik
First experiments were conducted with 7.92mm MG 15. Used operational: Mg-FF (20mm), MG 151/20 (20mm), MK 108 (30mm)
Also what was the "Mistral" Secret Weapon and what 3 Types of aircraft where used for it .?
I guess you are talking about the Mistel (=mistletoe). Mistral is a Mediterranean wind, or a modern French surface-air missile, or a French amphibious assault ship or, or the Sud-Est SE 535 Mistral, a variant of the DeHavilland Vampire...
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Le Mistral is indeed an anti air missile but it got nothing secret and I doubt hes talking about that because the end of the question would be making no sence ! You can fire from the ground, the water and the air, and It can destroy Airplanes, Helicopters and drones (makes three !)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Mistral-2.jpg)
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yes should have been Mistel
I stand corrected :aok :salute
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What was the official name of the U.S. made "Flying Pancake"
F5F
What was the Full Name of the only U.S. aircraft During WW2 to feature a Pusher engine powerplant?
P-55 Ascender
During ww2 what was the "Meteor" Used to specifically combat?
V-1s
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The mistel was a remote bomb or something similar... bombers loaded up with explosives guided by fighters. I think I've seen Fw190's and Bf109's used as carriers and Ju-88's and He-111's used as the bombs.
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:salute well done sir
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What was the Full Name of the only U.S. aircraft During WW2 to feature a Pusher engine powerplant?
There were 3 aircraft actually, the P-54, the P-55 and the P-56. The 54 was basically a 38 with a pusher engine. And the 56 was called the Black Bullet because it looked like a bullet with two wings and a pusher engine.
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Schrage Muzik was an upward firing cannon mounted in nightfighters of the luftwaffe during WW2 usually in Bf110's
Can any one tell me what calibre the cannon was and what angle the gun was set at and were was it mounted on the A/C?
The Schräge Musik was a German weapons configuration from what I last read... not a single weapon. It referred to obliquely-fired weapons and usually consisted of 20mm cannon or 30mm cannon firing at an upward angle from a German night-fighter. it was often mounted at or a little greater than 60 degrees, but still firing 'forward'.
Also what was the "Mistel" Secret Weapon and what 3 Types of aircraft where used for it .?
The Mistel was a German, unmanned bomber with a giant needle-like warhead attached to the front of the aircraft. This aircraft was hauled along by a fighter aircraft whose pilot would release the Mistel bomber near the target and the bomber's running engines would allow it to collide with and destroy the target. From what I know (thanks to Secret Weapons Over Normandy), the Mistel bomber portion was usually a Ju88 and the steering fighter attached to the top of the plane was usually a Fw190 of Bf109.
What was the official name of the U.S. made "Flying Pancake"
The Vought XF5U was the "Flying Pancake".
During ww2 what was the "Meteor" Used to specifically combat?
It flew principally against V1 'Buzz Bombs'; Fi-103s.
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Schrage Muzik was an upward firing cannon mounted in nightfighters of the luftwaffe during WW2 usually in Bf110's
Can any one tell me what calibre the cannon was and what angle the gun was set at and were was it mounted on the A/C?
Others have already answered to most of the question: for what I know, angle should be 70 degrees.
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I've been watching this technical movie about V-1 , amazing how smart and simple the pulsjet was designed using acoustic compression. No wonder germans made 30,000 V1s, the pulsjet was kind of car muffler with valves: cheap and efficient propulsion system. I don't understand why is not used in aviation anymore, it's more simple to build and less moving parts than piston engines or gas turbines.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXWSQ4clh7k&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXWSQ4clh7k&feature=related)
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I don't understand why is not used in aviation anymore, it's more simple to build and less moving parts than piston engines or gas turbines.
IIRC they're really loud. (Seriously)
wrongway
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well was it energy efficient ?
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Pulsejet type propulsion work is now focused (or was) on PDE (Pulse Detonation Engines) for hypersonic flight.
Here's Wikipedias page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse_detonation_engine
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F5F
(http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/photos/skyrockt.jpg)
Vought V-173 "Flying Pancake" aka F5U
Mistel
* Mistel Prototype - Ju 88A-4 and Bf 109F-4
* Mistel 1 - Ju 88A-4 and Bf 109F-4
* Mistel S1 - Trainer version of Mistel 1
* Mistel 2 - Ju 88G-l and Fw 190A-8 or F-8
* Mistel S2 - Trainer version of Mistel 2
* Mistel 3A - Ju 88A-4 and Fw 190A-8
* Mistel S3A - Trainer version of Mistel 3A
* Mistel 3B - Ju 88H-4 and Fw 190A-8
* Mistel 3C - Ju 88G-10 and Fw 190F-8
* Mistel Führungsmaschine - Ju 88 A-4/H-4 and Fw 190 A-8
* Mistel 4 - Ju 287 and Me 262
* Mistel 5 - Arado E.377A and He 162
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126 262 jets were destroyed by P51s another 21 by P47s and 0 by the venerable P38.
12 Arados were destroyed by P51s and 5 163s.
Eight P51 pilots were double jet scorers.
Do not know that ANY 51s were lost to 262s.
EDIT: Thats checking the records of just three US AFs.
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Heinz Bar, probably the best Me262 Experten, claimed 18 daylight victories whilst flying the Me262, of which 16 were confirmed. Of those 18 claimed, only 2 were B-24's and 3 were B-26's. All the rest were fighters, 5 x P-51's and 8 x P-47's.
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F5F
(http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/photos/skyrockt.jpg)
Vought V-173 "Flying Pancake" aka F5U
The image is the Grumman XF5F, grand dad to the F7F Tigercat. F means fighter, 5 means fifth design by the manufacturer, F mean Grumman. F5U, the U means Vought. XF5U-1 was the designation.
Edited to add photo...
(http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/database/aircraft/showimage.php?id=15781)
My regards,
Widewing
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The image is the Grumman XF5F, grand dad to the F7F Tigercat. F means fighter, 5 means fifth design by the manufacturer, F mean Grumman. F5U, the U means Vought. XF5U-1 was the designation.
Edited to add photo...
(http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/database/aircraft/showimage.php?id=15781)
My regards,
Widewing
So... just how well did that thing work? lol.
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So... just how well did that thing work? lol.
The V-173 concept prototype was a marvel. It had a landing speed of around 30 mph, was virtually impossible to stall or spin. It was very fast for its low power (two 80 hp engines). The 2,700 hp XF5U-1 offered good performance on paper, but nothing better than was already in the fleet in 1945. Where it was expected to excel was in maneuverability. Engineers at Vought claimed that it would easily turn inside a Zero. They may not have been overstating it either. The problem was that the program was delayed 2 years while the complicated props and reduction gear was developed. Even though the airframe was ready in 1945, the aircraft wasn't ready to begin tethered ground tests (it would take off at 40 mph) until late 1947. When the time came to ship it to Muroc Field (now Edwards AFB)for flight testing, it was already obsolete. Jet's were entering service and the XF5U-1 was no longer needed or wanted. The program was canceled and it was scrapped before it could make its first untethered flight. I read somewhere that the airframe failure loading was estimated at 13g. Not surprising when one considers the shape and construction.
Projected performance:
Speed: 425 mph @ 21,500 feet and 366 mph at sea level.
Climb: About 3,600 fpm at max takeoff weight, approximately 4,200 fpm in "interceptor configuration".
Range: 710 miles
Landing speed: 40 mph
Takeoff run: 200 feet
Power on stall: 33 mph
Armament: 4 x 20mm, 2,000 lb of bombs.
My regards,
Widewing
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Question: What was the Full Name of the only U.S. aircraft During WW2 to feature a Pusher engine powerplant?
There was more than one.
the Curtiss XP-55 Ascender (Ass-ender was the derogatory name applied) was one, but there were two other US fighter prototypes flying with "pusher" engine installations. Doesn't ring a bell?
The Vultee XP-54 Swoose Goose and the Northrop XP-56 Black Bullet.
My regards,
Widewing
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They have a Curtiss XP-55 Ascender at the Air Zoo in Kalamazoo, MI. Saw last year when I went up for the AH meet there.