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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: M.C.202 on December 23, 2000, 10:53:00 PM
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What one (1) bird would be your pick to do EVERYTHING in the game.
Intercept, escort, furball, Jabo, bomb.... everything.
One bird, not one type, no XYZMk I and MkII and MkIII to do more things better, just one plane.
Any ability has to have been at least been factory built and tested, no "they could have tried...".
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M.C.202
Dino in Reno
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F-22
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I'd have to say P-51D, although the P-38 and P-47D-30 give it a run for its money.
The "escort" requirement is the backbreaker. With one blow it basically invalidates all non-US, non-Japanese aircraft.
Give the N1K2-J its 1000lbs of bombs and it would be in the running as well.
But, the single answer to the question is, in my opinion, the P-51D.
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-Karnak
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The one I think it would be better, or the one I'd like to fly in those roles?...
If it is the one I think it would be better...I'd go with the Tempest MkV. Wonderful multi-role plane, can do almost everything and do it well.
If it is the one I'd like to fly, the Fw190G8. Fitted with MW50, with no stinkin' cowl MGs. Fast, agile, and with incredible loadout options, it will be still a wonderful fighter.
You can say that it would lack on the buff killer role as it would have 2x20mm only, but well...you still can put a couple of those MK103s for tank busting and use them for buff killing (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
Originally posted by Karnak:
The "escort" requirement is the backbreaker. With one blow it basically invalidates all non-US, non-Japanese aircraft.
Karnak, you say this because the range?... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) sorry to burst your bubble, but the Fw190G8 could carry both wing and centerline drop tanks, and had extra large range for a Fw190A...maybe not so much as a P51D with drop tanks but enuf to be a good escort plane, dont worry (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 12-23-2000).]
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RAM,
I was under the impression that we had to select from aircraft that were already in AH.
The Spitfire FR.MkXIV's had a rear fuselage fuel tank and I have read that some had fuel bladders in the wing roots.
That would be preferable to the P-51D, IMHO.
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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
Sisu
-Karnak
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Corsair can be all things for although the P-51 is the obvious choice..it's a bit too easy to hole on the jabo, but for axis..the FW190
-tronski-
486 Sqn (NZ)
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Nath-BDP said:
> F-22
Well almost as many flew combat in WWII as Ta152's.... :-)
Now look at the name of the BB and game and pick from the ones there :-)
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M.C.202
Dino in Reno
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Umm...
A6M5
[This message has been edited by Nath-BDP (edited 12-24-2000).]
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F4U is the best all round AC in AH right now, no question about that.
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P-38 filled ALL roles in WW2.
Modern day? F-16!
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P47 with Gabby camo, stipes and bubble top... and i do anything... (and even run from Nikis/spits/yak... but they still a lot of planes to fight except these).
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Hi All,
Mosquito,
This was used for everything, there was even a carrier version of the FB VI.
(If restricted to the game only though - Not how I read it but)......
P47D-30
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snafu
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[This message has been edited by snafu (edited 12-24-2000).]
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Nice G-8 fantasy RAM has going there...
The F4U-1C is the multirole king of AH. It has alot of: powerful guns, ammo, fuel, speed, radial engine durability, bombs, rockets, blue paint, whines, and it has a tailhook for carrier ops. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Spit mk23
Don't mess with this AC.
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Hi
Prolly P51 from the planes we have here, althogh the damn chog might be better due to it guns-however i dont consider chog a real plane anymore so it has to be P51. It has speed, range, good guns, decent ammo, good loadout, can run on oil damage for a very long time, has great high speed handling and manuver, and has good visibity. I honestly cant think of any ww2 plane that was so good at doing so many things, yes various spit, 190, corsairs, 109s,47s were better in one or 2 specific ways but none were as good and capable overall as P51.
thanks GRUNHERZ
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P47D-30.
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Originally posted by juzz:
Nice G-8 fantasy RAM has going there...
Fantasy?...
Ok, juzz tell me what part of my post was wrong.
The Fw190G8 was a lit lighter than a Fw190A8. So it will be a nice fighter.
The Fw190G8 had MW50 fitted, AFAIK, making it faster at low altitudes.
The Fw190G8 had extra fuel tanks for extended range.
The Fw190G8 had an incredibly wide range of choices of weapons for A/G work. Some of them (as the 30mm gun pods) could be used also on buff hunting missions.
G8 is a lighter A8 with more range, no stinkin' 13mm MGs,faster at low altitudes, and MUCH wider weapon choices.
So now, eat your words, sir, for the only one with a fantasy here is you (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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dont lump the yak in with niks and spits frenchy (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I would say the Yak is one of the best A2A fighters in AH, but its certainly not easy to kill in.....
for best all around currently in the game? Probably go with the F4u-1c. With 2 drops it can escort, and do everything else just as well or better than the pony.
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My pick would be the P-38L. Good range, big bomb or rocket load, good guns, and the torp
of course. Well O.K., torp dropping was only used in trials :-)
Two engines on long ocean flights would be just the thing to keep the pilot dry.
Choice two, F4U-4.
Choice three, B-17 ;-)
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M.C.202
Dino in Reno
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My immediate reaction is the P-47-D30. Stang's are not tough enough to do attack IMHO.
But with a bit of though... I have to say the F4U-1C. It's guns are better on armour and to top it off you can fly it from a carrier. Carrier ops make it more flexible than most of it's competitors, so it wins the best all-around IMHO.
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I've been flying the P-51 for the past week or so (for evaluation purposes of course (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)), and I'd have to pick the Stang. It can do alot of things really well. Not the best at jabo work, but with 2x1000 you can do some damage. It's great for intercepting buffs, and flying CAP. The ammo load and its ability to fly forever on %75 fuel makes it a great all around plane.
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[This message has been edited by LJK Raubvogel (edited 12-24-2000).]
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If not confined to AH, the A-26. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
For AH, P-47D-30.
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190G8 if we're talking planes in general.
190A8 otherwise.
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P47D-30.........my heart is STILL with this bird.........although after the last 2 days in the F4U-1D, I would have to say that it would be a very close race between the two. The D Hawg handles like the Jug did back in 1.03, at least it feels that way to me. And, since I abhor any Hispano armed plane, and both the Jug and -1D are armed with .50 cal's, they fit my mental image of what American fighters were like back then.
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Guess it's got to be the F4U-1C... has lots of range... can carry fuel tanks... killer cannons... 2x1000lb bombs... rockets... pretty fast... fairly nimble...
'Nexx'
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well.... you did say overall and that would leave only one choice. you need to have range, durability, speed, weapons load, all field (including carriers) capability, all alt performance, ground attack capability etc. If you could get a jug to take off from a carrier it would make a close second to the Corsair.
lazs
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A-26B A-26B A-26B!
x16 .50's uber alles!
In absence of a A-26B I'll take a Me-410, in absence of a 410 I'll take a P-47D-25 or a B-26 for luftweenie suppression.
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F4u-1C can do it all well. I hate to see it go but it's kinda wierd when the sky if full of Chogs, lol.
-- senna
Originally posted by M.C.202:
What one (1) bird would be your pick to do EVERYTHING in the game.
Intercept, escort, furball, Jabo, bomb.... everything.
One bird, not one type, no XYZMk I and MkII and MkIII to do more things better, just one plane.
Any ability has to have been at least been factory built and tested, no "they could have tried...".