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Title: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Bosco123 on February 15, 2009, 01:09:19 PM
Anyone other than me? Any predictions as to who will win? My bet is Tony Stewart or Gordan (even though I don't like him). They said it was supposed to rain out, but they said it's all clear to go. Lets hope so.
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: uptown on February 15, 2009, 01:37:55 PM
Mark Martin .....surely he can get it this year. :aok
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Bronk on February 15, 2009, 01:40:48 PM
Mark Martin .....surely he can get it this year. :aok
Never happen... he's not popular enough. :noid
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Chalenge on February 15, 2009, 02:54:15 PM
Not watching sorry. The first race of the season will be Streets of St Pete April 5.  :aok
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: CAVPFCDD on February 15, 2009, 04:21:10 PM
Not watching sorry. The first race of the season will be Streets of St Pete April 5.  :aok

watch it every year live from the comfort of my balcony  :cool:
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: sluggish on February 15, 2009, 05:02:16 PM
I've got to admit, I'm disappointed in Dale...
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Bosco123 on February 15, 2009, 05:59:22 PM
Just made it official that Matt Kenseth won it. Supriser, but none the less a good race. I don't think it was as good as the previous years, but it was ok. I was hoping that Tony won it, or Mark, but they didn't. Another suprise was Almendinger, nice 3rd place for him, glad to see him get a good finish.
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: sluggish on February 15, 2009, 06:10:59 PM
Stewart is a tool.
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Bodhi on February 15, 2009, 06:19:31 PM
they still take all left turns?
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on February 15, 2009, 06:31:44 PM
Stewart is a tool.

Stewart is a great racer, and a great person. As well as a great supporter of the grass roots local level racer. What is commonly known among racers as a "racer's racer". Yes, he's a hard tough racer, that's what you need to be on the track. Yes, he speaks his mind, you don't have to dig too much to get his answers. Just two more reasons to like him.
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on February 15, 2009, 06:32:22 PM
they still take all left turns?

Not at Watkins Glen or Sonoma.
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Bodhi on February 15, 2009, 06:36:28 PM
Not at Watkins Glen or Sonoma.

yawn
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on February 15, 2009, 06:44:41 PM
yawn

I do the same thing when I try to watch all that computerized multibillion dollar F1 BS. I'm not a real NASCAR fan, but I don't consider it to be at all inferior to F1, "Indycar", "champcar", or any of that crap. As far as widely televised motorsports go, NASCAR is better than most, except NHRA drag racing, but then you only see 5% of an NHRA event on TV, and most of it is NOT the best part of the show.
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: MiloMorai on February 15, 2009, 06:50:01 PM
The biggest NASCAR dipstick is the Shrub. Glad he didn't win anything. :aok

Motorcycle and boat (not offshore) racing. :aok :aok :aok :)
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Masherbrum on February 15, 2009, 06:55:19 PM
Stewart is a great racer, and a great person. As well as a great supporter of the grass roots local level racer. What is commonly known among racers as a "racer's racer". Yes, he's a hard tough racer, that's what you need to be on the track. Yes, he speaks his mind, you don't have to dig too much to get his answers. Just two more reasons to like him.

Absolutely.

I do the same thing when I try to watch all that computerized multibillion dollar F1 BS. I'm not a real NASCAR fan, but I don't consider it to be at all inferior to F1, "Indycar", "champcar", or any of that crap. As far as widely televised motorsports go, NASCAR is better than most, except NHRA drag racing, but then you only see 5% of an NHRA event on TV, and most of it is NOT the best part of the show.

While I enjoy F1, again Virg hits the nail on the head.   I live an hour away from Milan, MI.   I'm going to be taking my son to some races.   I'm also considering going to the Mac Tools U.S. Nationals in Indy this year.   I live 5 hours from there, can stay with my Uncle in Carmel.   

Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on February 15, 2009, 07:42:35 PM
If you ignore the circus classes of Top Fuel, Funny Car, and Pro Mod, and look at Pro Stock, Competition Eliminator, Super Stock, and Stock Eliminator, an NHRA or IHRA race can be a real treat, if you like real hardcore racing. Especially if you pick a race where "class" is contested in Stock and/or Super Stock.

For example, if you want to see the REAL racing at Indy, class is contested in Stock on Thursday, and in Super Stock on Friday. Guys work all year, and drive a thousand miles or more to take the class trophy at Indy. A class win at Indy is the Holy Grail. So go on Thursday and Friday, if at all possible, as that's when you'll see as many as a dozen cars in a single class in Stock or Super Stock go at it heads up, no dial in, winner take all.

You can get on the NHRA website and look around to see if they have one of the events close to you, and see if Stock and/or Super Stock runs for class.

Don't get me wrong, I like John Force, and I have known some Top Fuel racers personally, but it's all just a mega dollar circus, at least these days, and the racing just isn't as good as it is down in the sportsman classes, even Pro Stock doesn't quite capture it, but it is a fun class to watch, at least for me.

The Milan IHRA races are pretty good, one of my friends doubled up there a couple of years ago, winning two classes at the same event.
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: crazyivan on February 16, 2009, 12:34:22 PM
3 hrs of stupid pre-race, when they knew weather was gonna be a threat. I'm sorry very poor call by NASCAR. Race would of been better If they weren't all looking a the radar IMO. On the junior thing. Both were in the wrong. Did someone have to block a lap down car? And did someone have get pissy a retaliate in front of the main pack?  I don't like this dweeb but the 18 car had the best 1 imo.
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Masherbrum on February 16, 2009, 04:12:36 PM
If you ignore the circus classes of Top Fuel, Funny Car, and Pro Mod, and look at Pro Stock, Competition Eliminator, Super Stock, and Stock Eliminator, an NHRA or IHRA race can be a real treat, if you like real hardcore racing. Especially if you pick a race where "class" is contested in Stock and/or Super Stock.

For example, if you want to see the REAL racing at Indy, class is contested in Stock on Thursday, and in Super Stock on Friday. Guys work all year, and drive a thousand miles or more to take the class trophy at Indy. A class win at Indy is the Holy Grail. So go on Thursday and Friday, if at all possible, as that's when you'll see as many as a dozen cars in a single class in Stock or Super Stock go at it heads up, no dial in, winner take all.

You can get on the NHRA website and look around to see if they have one of the events close to you, and see if Stock and/or Super Stock runs for class.

Don't get me wrong, I like John Force, and I have known some Top Fuel racers personally, but it's all just a mega dollar circus, at least these days, and the racing just isn't as good as it is down in the sportsman classes, even Pro Stock doesn't quite capture it, but it is a fun class to watch, at least for me.

The Milan IHRA races are pretty good, one of my friends doubled up there a couple of years ago, winning two classes at the same event.

I agree again.   I find the Top Fuel to be too "over the top" and detract from it's former roots.   Just as I hate watching Nascar races loaded with Cautions, called due to rain, won on a Caution, etc.   

I'll check into the Stock/Super Stock thing.   That is more my cup of tea.   Hell, hopefully I can see you there!   
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: RedTop on February 16, 2009, 04:39:28 PM
<---Big Nascar fan....Trucks....Nationwide series....F1..Indy car....touring cars....

The race wasn't bad , but not as good as past races. After they new the weather was coming they all got going a bit harder.

I'm a Jr. fan....I thought Vickers moving a lane and a half to block the way he did was B.S.. Then to run Jr. even lower was more B.S.. I'm not sorry Vickers got crashed at all , but kind of feel bad for the others. (Except busch). I'll take Jr.'s word that he was trying to get control of his car and clipped him in accident. Vickers wrecked Jr. and Jimmy Johnson both 2 years ago at Talladega on the last lap on the back straight and went on to win. So for him to cry like a lil ***** is typical.

I was rootinig for Jr. , Stewart , and Martin.



Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: MiloMorai on February 16, 2009, 04:45:44 PM
On the junior thing. Both were in the wrong. Did someone have to block a lap down car? And did someone have get pissy a retaliate in front of the main pack?  I don't like this dweeb but the 18 car had the best 1 imo.

Both were fighting for the 'Lucky Dog'.

Who watched the Nationwide race? Late in the race a car blew a tire and no caution was thrown, yet in the Sprint race the caution id flown if all a car does is spin out. :rolleyes:

NASCAR needs to get their act together.
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Cougar68 on February 16, 2009, 05:00:10 PM

I'm a Jr. fan....

That is enough information right there to know what your opinion would be.  The block was legal, happens hundreds of times in every single restrictor plate race.  Jr. screwed up and let his emotions get the best of him yet again that day. 
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Masherbrum on February 16, 2009, 05:27:20 PM
That is enough information right there to know what your opinion would be.  The block was legal, happens hundreds of times in every single restrictor plate race.  Jr. screwed up and let his emotions get the best of him yet again that day. 

Agree. 
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: RedTop on February 16, 2009, 05:32:44 PM
That is enough information right there to know what your opinion would be.  The block was legal, happens hundreds of times in every single restrictor plate race.  Jr. screwed up and let his emotions get the best of him yet again that day. 

Disagree...I've watched that replay a ton...mainly cause I was dissappointed. Vickers made his block and hit Jr. and knocked him even further down....if you see the incar from Jr.s car he clearly feathers the throttle....to get back in line. Vickers made a legal move...no doubt....but a lane and a half? Bit much IMO.

None the less.....all things after the fact.....Talledega 2 years ago vickers did the same thing to Jr. and Jimmy.....Screw him. :lol
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: MiloMorai on February 16, 2009, 07:10:55 PM
Jr is a washed up old 'has been'. :devil
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Cougar68 on February 16, 2009, 08:27:48 PM
Redtop, the block that happened isn't anything you don't see tons of times in restrictor plate racing.  Nothing unusual at all.  And even if it was, it didn't warrant Jr spinning him into the pack.  Vickers' move is allowed by the rules.  Argue for a change if you don't agree, but don't use it as a get out of jail free for Jr.  And methinks you may be already holding a grudge if you're remembering a wreck from two years ago....
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: rpm on February 16, 2009, 11:57:31 PM
They were both in the wrong. It was an avoidable wreck and both drivers chose not to avoid it.
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: BiPoLaR on February 17, 2009, 12:06:30 AM
i like to watch the wrecks only :D
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Masherbrum on February 17, 2009, 12:15:50 AM
i like to watch the wrecks only :D

Rubbernecker!    :furious

















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Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Cougar68 on February 17, 2009, 12:46:49 AM
They were both in the wrong. It was an avoidable wreck and both drivers chose not to avoid it.


It wasn't a wreck until Jr turned right. At that point there was nothing Vickers could do but hold on. 
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Xasthur on February 17, 2009, 01:29:24 AM
I say this every time, but you just can't top Bathurst as far as car racing goes. Daytona has got nothing on Bathurst. Nothing at all.

2005 Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AmI91JOnNg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AmI91JOnNg)

Never mind the 30 other cars on the track that goes up and down a mountain, you have to deal with this too:

Kangaroos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmD_FshP0Qk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmD_FshP0Qk)
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: edog1977 on February 17, 2009, 07:22:53 AM
^ Ahh....Bathurst.  One of my favorite race tracks.  Ranks up there with the old Spa and the Ring in my book.
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Bosco123 on February 17, 2009, 10:20:46 AM
Jr. was wrong, Ill admit that. But, I can't say that he was completely at his fault, and I can understand that the rules can play a factor in this one. When Vickers, pushed him down, that was legal, when Jr. went up to get back above the line, that was legal. The only problem was that Vickers was there. I know that J. didn't do it intentionally, according to what his interview said, during the rain delay/ end of race. What Waltrip said as well, Jr. doesn't lie, he tells you exactly what he thought about the situation and he will admit if he was wrong. 
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: crazyivan on February 17, 2009, 02:54:19 PM
It wasn't a wreck until Jr turned right. At that point there was nothing Vickers could do but hold on. 
Watch the replay! Still say both were wrong. But the 83 car didnt lose control when he put his left corner panel all over the 88.

Why someone gave. Then 88 put his right front same place and phew! And quote DW. You don't think he wasn't a bad tempered racer in his day pff.

Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: Cougar68 on February 17, 2009, 03:01:15 PM
Watch the replay! Still say both were wrong. But the 83 car didnt lose control when he put his left corner panel all over the 88.

Why someone gave. Then 88 put his right front same place and phew!

There was contact as Vickers went to block, yes.  But if you look at any of the other laps run there was contact all over the place, nature of the beast.  The reason Vickers didn't sping initially is because Jr. was trying to avoid the contact.  When he came back up he just gave it to him and around he goes. 
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: crazyivan on February 17, 2009, 03:04:55 PM
There was contact as Vickers went to block, yes.  But if you look at any of the other laps run there was contact all over the place, nature of the beast.  The reason Vickers didn't sping initially is because Jr. was trying to avoid the contact.  When he came back up he just gave it to him and around he goes. 
I'm sure theirs a few drivers that could of caught the back end from snapping. :aok but I know its not easy at that speed.

Only good thing that came out of it is a clean racecar driver won! wtg. kenseth
Title: Re: Anyone watching the Daytona 500 today?
Post by: rpm on February 17, 2009, 04:15:16 PM
Only good thing that came out of it is a clean racecar driver won! wtg. kenseth
Can't argue with that!