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Title: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: expat on February 16, 2009, 05:21:04 AM
Kieth Skilling really throwing the old girl around :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp-YrzjdExs

Not often you see streamers coming of the wings of warbirds , the sound is something else as well
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Xasthur on February 16, 2009, 05:25:54 AM
Jesus! Listen to that thing in the dives! What a monster!

Awesome link, expat.

That landing was perfect, too. Great stuff... looks like a skilled pilot.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: JunkyII on February 16, 2009, 06:03:33 AM
Jesus! Listen to that thing in the dives! What a monster!

Awesome link, expat.

That landing was perfect, too. Great stuff... looks like a skilled pilot.
I could take him  :D
nice find expat, makes me understand why most think it was the best fighter in WW2
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: 1pLUs44 on February 16, 2009, 07:11:41 AM
I thought I should point out, it's a corsair of VF-17...  :rock
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Saxman on February 16, 2009, 07:44:05 AM
This video should be required viewing for anyone who thinks our Corsair is over-modeled.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: helbent on February 16, 2009, 07:46:37 AM
Awesome video  :aok

Cant believe he was allowed to direct energy towards the audience tho.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Saxman on February 16, 2009, 08:56:52 AM
I can fully understand where "Whistling Death" came from. That's a DAMN frightening sound to hear even WITHOUT the .50cal blazing and bombs falling on your head.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: ODBAL on February 16, 2009, 10:07:49 AM
What an awesome piece of American Machinery!  And to think I personally flew 12 of them to their destruction just last night.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Rich46yo on February 16, 2009, 10:18:28 AM
Fabulous shots of the Corsair. :aok Boy imagine being some poor, skinny little, starving IJA soldier and seeing that monster diving in on you? The 0.50s must have been ferocious and that ain even counting the rockets, bombs, napalm...ect Its terrific to see some still flying.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: expat on February 16, 2009, 10:28:42 AM
Here's a coupe of real howlers ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V1IF_I2Rv0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uya9N_CJxgs
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 16, 2009, 10:33:49 AM
What an awesome piece of American Machinery!  And to think I personally flew 12 of them to their destruction just last night.

 :lol

Great video - think Ill up a U bird today.   :aok
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: B4Buster on February 16, 2009, 11:02:44 AM
Jesus! Listen to that thing in the dives! What a monster!

Imagine being a japanese and hearing that  :D
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: texastc316 on February 16, 2009, 01:14:58 PM
awww man. I can watch it til I get home! f4u is my fav ride!
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Rino on February 16, 2009, 02:05:21 PM
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Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: TwinBoom on February 16, 2009, 02:58:25 PM
Here's a coupe of real howlers ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V1IF_I2Rv0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uya9N_CJxgs

I recorded this F-104 on a takeoff prep very Evil Sound
F-104 Growl!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODj24OJzKVc&feature=channel_page)
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Plawranc on February 16, 2009, 03:06:43 PM
Thats not a Engine noise

THIS NOISE gives me a hard on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK6uNQoBAGY&feature=PlayList&p=A1F735384B3E8DB0&index=21
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Enker on February 16, 2009, 03:18:15 PM
Now, why don't we have that diving hum? That should give gvs the shakes in the skivvies.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: SkyRock on February 16, 2009, 03:43:15 PM
 :devil
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Widewing on February 16, 2009, 06:41:35 PM
What a pleasure to see a Corsair wrung out as God intended.. Great Video...


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: TheBug on February 16, 2009, 06:59:11 PM
Nice Video!

Thanks  :aok
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Rino on February 16, 2009, 07:18:54 PM
    Augh, having a very tough time getting a link to work, has some weird character in it that I cannot identify.  Go to youtube and search for
P-51 Mustang super low pass...worth the trip.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: zoozoo on February 16, 2009, 08:10:06 PM
For the Corsair fans:
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii275/zoozoo13/skyrock2-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Delirium on February 16, 2009, 08:47:51 PM
Here is the Corsair with its flaps out.

(http://www.mercuryrapids.co.uk/ufofiles-realufos-Image6.jpg)
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: G0ALY on February 16, 2009, 09:18:37 PM
This reminds me of an article I read… And this had to be back in the 1970s… about a group of ‘sport pilot’ mustang owners who traveled to the Honduras to see original P51s still in military service.

The article pointed out the difference in flight characteristics between a civilianized mustang and one that still has all of the weight that is involved with armor and armament. Perhaps the biggest impression that was made on me is how the military pilots would not consider doing a wheeled in (on just the main wheels) landing. The military aircraft would basically, flare and stall, at landing and touch down on all three wheels simultaneously.

I also remember a picture of the tips of the .50cal guns being covered with the caps from rum bottles. The absence of the bottle caps would prove upon landing that the guns had been fired during the flight… Strange, the things that stick in your head after all these years. (Or it could be just be old-age re-writing what I read nearly 40 years ago.)

What I’m saying is, what you are seeing in the video may not accurately represent what that aircraft was capable of doing when it was actually in service and fully loaded.




Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Saxman on February 16, 2009, 10:18:18 PM
For the Corsair fans:
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii275/zoozoo13/skyrock2-1.jpg)

Why is it some people have to come into a thread just to be smart-alecks?

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Buzzard7 on February 16, 2009, 11:09:34 PM
ZooZoo bounced a corsair. Had that Hog pilot known there was a picking 190 around it might have been a different story. :D
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Heater on February 17, 2009, 05:17:19 AM
Sweet, Thanks for the link!
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: The Fury on February 17, 2009, 05:28:10 AM
Awsome, just awsome  :O

Thnx for sharing  :salute
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: LCCajun on February 17, 2009, 06:42:30 AM
    Augh, having a very tough time getting a link to work, has some weird character in it that I cannot identify.  Go to youtube and search for
P-51 Mustang super low pass...worth the trip.


Thanks for the share was worth it. <S>
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Shifty on February 17, 2009, 06:49:21 AM
Why is it some people have to come into a thread just to be smart-alecks?

 :rolleyes:

L.A.M.S.

Look At Me Syndrome  ;)

Goaly while it's true the Corsair in the film may be doing things wartime war weary Corsairs may not have been able to pull off.
As Widewing said it's good to see one being wrung out as God intended. I don't think I've ever seen a Warbird put through it paces like that at an air show.
It's an awesome film.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: 1Boner on February 17, 2009, 07:17:33 AM
Always liked this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_eYgMxUPpc
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: whiteman on February 17, 2009, 02:37:56 PM
That is the coolest thing I've heard!
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Plawranc on February 17, 2009, 02:50:23 PM
Ahh the F18 i saw 1 do tht at Edinbourugh Air force base in Oz on the deck almost supersonic IT WAS AWESOME
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: SgtPappy on February 17, 2009, 02:57:49 PM
L.A.M.S.

Look At Me Syndrome  ;)

Goaly while it's true the Corsair in the film may be doing things wartime war weary Corsairs may not have been able to pull off.
As Widewing said it's good to see one being wrung out as God intended. I don't think I've ever seen a Warbird put through it paces like that at an air show.
It's an awesome film.

If anything, Shifty, the Wartime Corsairs were even more maneuverable than the one in the film. I mean, warbird pilots are often warned not to pull these vintage planes too far into the envelope, but in war, they could do just about anything to survive.

The main reason why people really think our Corsair is way too much of a UFO is likely because they haven't tried hitting the CV deck at stall speed, keeping the plane manually trimmed in accordance with the the pilot's manual.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Shifty on February 17, 2009, 03:05:17 PM
Good point.  :aok

I actually am just starting to get the most out of my Corsair, and still have a lot to learn.
I used to thump around only in the D model but the last month and a half I've discovered the -1 and -1A.
After years of flying this sim and it's two older brothers I've finally found a plane I absolutely love to fly constantly.
I wouldn't call it a UFO though. However it stacks up well against any plane in the sim IMO.

The video is just awesome to me, the few chances I've had to see WWII era fighters being flown, the display is normally
much more docile than the one in the vid.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: whiteman on February 17, 2009, 03:10:09 PM
A little time and you'll earn the vertical thrust boost shifty.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: texastc316 on February 17, 2009, 03:49:25 PM
I love the 1A. itd my main ride. probabyy 95% of my flying. I'd love to get THAT engine sound ingame!
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Saxman on February 17, 2009, 03:51:56 PM
I love the 1A. itd my main ride. probabyy 95% of my flying. I'd love to get THAT engine sound ingame!

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,258668.0.html

:D
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: texastc316 on February 17, 2009, 04:16:11 PM
will check that out when I get home
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: zoozoo on February 17, 2009, 04:38:49 PM
ZooZoo bounced a corsair. Had that Hog pilot known there was a picking 190 around it might have been a different story. :D

We were on the deck in a 1v1  :D
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Simaril on February 17, 2009, 07:59:17 PM
I can fully understand where "Whistling Death" came from. That's a DAMN frightening sound to hear even WITHOUT the .50cal blazing and bombs falling on your head.

At about 4:30 of the original posters' link, there's a GREAT "whistling death" sound. Very nice post....thanks!



Gotta admit I love the sound of merlins -- one of my all time favorite moments was hearing a Lancaster warm up and take off. But while the Merlin sounds like a sweetly tuned instrument, the Corsair's double banked radial just growls with raw power. Love em both!
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: agflit222 on February 17, 2009, 08:36:26 PM
Interesting to note...everybody remarks on the sound...but no one seems to have noted where the sound comes from...for inquiring minds...that low howl and hi pitched whine you hear is the result of the intercooler screens located at the inboard leading edge of the wing.... in case anyones interested.

Regards,

Ag
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Saxman on February 17, 2009, 08:54:41 PM
Most of us are already familiar with the why so it didn't need mentioning.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: mars01 on February 17, 2009, 10:53:11 PM
Man that first pass is off the hook and the camera is perfectly panned back to show it's true speed and agility.  Now that is a Corsair demo.  F-i-n-g Awesome!!!
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Slash27 on February 17, 2009, 11:17:40 PM
L.A.M.S.

Look At Me Syndrome  ;)

Goaly while it's true the Corsair in the film may be doing things wartime war weary Corsairs may not have been able to pull off.
As Widewing said it's good to see one being wrung out as God intended. I don't think I've ever seen a Warbird put through it paces like that at an air show.
It's an awesome film.

L.A.M.S.  :lol



 I agree, its great to see someone flying the hell out of one.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: moot on February 18, 2009, 03:18:13 AM
The only thing holding back warbirds airborne is scarcity of parts, right? If, for some reason, manufacturing of blueprinted parts were cheaper, we would see more of them, right?  Is there any other factor?
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: expat on February 18, 2009, 04:32:33 AM
parts, insurance , regulations ......
There are new insurance regs in the EU that will put the bigger aircraft ie B17 , out of action as they have to have the same insurance as a commercial passenger aircraft , allready you cant get a ride at airshows in C-47'S :(
The fun detectives are in force .....
 
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: moot on February 18, 2009, 05:00:32 AM
But the insurance and regulations are tied to warbirds parts being scarce, aren't they?
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: expat on February 18, 2009, 07:44:17 AM
Seems the mustang is a bit of a howler too
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHrcmSNgJRM

Couple of days off with nothing better to do but trawl the net for warbird vids    :)
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: G0ALY on February 18, 2009, 09:32:25 AM
I love the 'howl' or 'whistle' that came from the Commonwealth Boomerang. There is one flying at alone at about 3 minutes and 50 seconds into this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccZ94HmygSA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccZ94HmygSA)

If we ever get the buffalo, I'll change my next plane wish to the Boomerang... I love the odd birds.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Old Sport on February 18, 2009, 10:30:50 AM
Re: the original vid.

Looks to me like the wingtips are clipped. Was this a a Royal Navy bird, or did someone just like squared off tips? Or am I mistaken?

Whistling (Roaring) Death indeed!  :aok
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: mtnman on February 18, 2009, 01:41:02 PM
Alright already!  I'm convinced!  I'll give the F4U a chance next time I log on!
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Tr1gg22 on February 18, 2009, 05:19:49 PM
Ty for the video :aok That thing can turn :salute
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: SIK1 on February 18, 2009, 07:45:45 PM
Alright already!  I'm convinced!  I'll give the F4U a chance next time I log on!

Just use lots of the uber flaps, they'll get you out of any jam. :aok or so I've heard. :devil
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Buzzard7 on February 18, 2009, 11:12:30 PM
They definitely look like the clipped RAF wings. Would be interesting to see if the wings actually fold. Goodyear built Hogs did not fold(FG-1D). I would like to see the odegaard F2-G rung out like that.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Gryffin on February 19, 2009, 01:43:06 PM
Alright already!  I'm convinced!  I'll give the F4U a chance next time I log on!

It's the blue one, you might not have seen it before
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: Bodhi on February 19, 2009, 02:59:08 PM
The only thing holding back warbirds airborne is scarcity of parts, right? If, for some reason, manufacturing of blueprinted parts were cheaper, we would see more of them, right?  Is there any other factor?

Insurance and increased regulation is the biggest hindrance we face these days.  Insurance costs for "hull" insurance can run 200k a year on a 2 million dollar aircraft.  This is not conducive to insurance other than liability.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: moot on February 19, 2009, 03:02:40 PM
But that insurance is up because the parts are rare, right?  If the parts were less scarce (e.g. if mfg'ing them were more accessible), regulation would be the only obstacle to seeing more of them at airshows and the like?
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: expat on February 20, 2009, 12:12:20 PM
I think insurance prices are driven by regulations , certainly in europe where it's determined by wt (i think ?) hence you have B17'S having to have the same coverage as a commecial airliner even though the 17 isnt allowed to carry passengers ........
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: moot on February 20, 2009, 12:31:45 PM
I see, thanks.
Title: Re: Fof the Corsair fans
Post by: expat on February 20, 2009, 12:45:57 PM
Twinboom
Cheers for the 104 vid  , the howl is great :)
Did you ever see The Vikimgs ? German navy display team thet were great .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQasfk3LcTw&feature=related
I remember being at Mildenhall for the air display , i was arond 12-13 yeaqrs old  armed with a real cheap kodak camera trying to get a good picture of one of the 104's everything down n dirty when the second shot past at a great rate of knots  i jumped a mile and got a shot of blue sky :)