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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Plawranc on February 17, 2009, 04:33:28 AM
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Now the argument between these planes is immense and historical all throughout AH2 and seeing as im a big fan of both i would like to hear every1s views on these awesome planes
in short
Which you would pick and why
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When I see a Spit and a Chog in a duel...
... I pick both, and climb back to 20k :P
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Sounds like we're in the Furball Area of the DA...
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which spit?
(and how come I am just now hearing about this immense, historical argument?)
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When I see a Spit and a Chog in a duel...
... I pick both, and climb back to 20k :P
Now this is funny! :rofl
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(and how come I am just now hearing about this immense, historical argument?)
Agreed.
Sounds like we're in the Furball Area of the DA...
Seriously. If we are talking Furball Lake, I'd pwn them both in a Ki84 and get a good laugh. :D
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I think I'll answer the question. I would choose the Chog, I know how to fly them more than the spit, and I know what its abilities are. I know that in any type of scissor move, I would be able to out turn him easily, and get more angles. If the Spit gets you into the flat turn on the other hand, the only way to beat that is to gain E, usually by diving (if you have the room), and loop over to try and get the angle again. Most of the time when some guy sees you loop over, he's going right back to your advantage, and that's more sicsoring.
Hope that helps. :)
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Being a Spit dweeb I'd say the Spit. The C Hog is a pig. The only plane I question whether I should engage or not while in a Spit is the A Hog.
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Depends on who's flying it. The Charlie (actually, any Hog) only needs one shot to end this fight, whereas the Spit needs either a good long burst or will otherwise need to pick away. The I, V and IX's .303s won't be much more than a nuissance, and while the .50s in the other Marks are more of a concern to the F4U, the Spit can't afford to give the 1C so much as a snapshot.
The 1C can't get too slow. He needs to keep the fight faster where he can put his E retention and high-speed maneuverability advantages to use. If he decides to try and put his flaps into play he better be able to close the deal FAST.
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Chog, The one plane I don't mind letting the guy I'm diving at get lower on than me. On that first merge there's an open shot, more often than not when i take that shot In -1C the other guy has an oil leak or is missing his elevators.
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Never heard of any arguement about spit vs hog.
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nor me, but either way ill take my spit V, IX or XIV...
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Depends on your style of flying, chog is good if your patient and "pick" your target more wisely. I'm impatient, and like a dweeb i usually dive after the first thing that catches my eye like a cat to something shiny.
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I'd pick the CHog. but my main ride is the F4U1A so that's an easy choice. but it depend on the pilot. if the pilots good it doesn't matter what plane he 's in. gonna be a fight.
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Oddly enough, I was in this situation the other night. Spitty 16 (knight plane) and my Chog. The merge was fast at 16k and the spit dove. I hate to HO, so the first pass was clean. When we got into it at about 10k the spit tried to keep flat and outturn. He did a good job. He probably would've won if I had stayed with him. A quick dive for E and a rolling reversal put me on his six. One quick burst did the job, and the spit decided to go KABOOM. Good fight, but like everything else, it all depends on the driver.
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When I see a Spit and a Chog in a duel...
... I pick both, and climb back to 20k :P
:rofl
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Well ill expain this long history
All my time in AH2 the 2 most seen planes ive encountered is an F4U or spitty and as far as i can make out in DA and in MA people make the decision Yank or non Yank
If they pick non yank they end up with a spit 9 if they pick yank they end up with a hog ( and sometimes a pony)
i also looked at the scores of tours Spits and hogs are always in Competition for the top spot
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i also looked at the scores of tours Spits and hogs are always in Competition for the top spot
Perhaps the masses gravitate to the easier rides? (The hog isn't easy to me, but some seem to make it look easy)
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Film I saved posted by BatfinkV
http://www.mediafire.com/?1ymimqhmmmm
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Watch the ettles the argument
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This must be the perspective of someone who primarily flies in the furball pond?
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C-Hog
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This must be the perspective of someone who primarily flies in the furball pond?
Yeah cuz now the place is for FUN furballs instead of MAs P51 Pick fest
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Yeah cuz now the place is for FUN furballs instead of MAs P51 Pick fest
lmao
No picking and ho'n going on in Dweeb Lake.
oh wait... that's all that is going on at Dweeb Lake.
My mistake!
And for the record, the place is for DUELING. Hence the name Dueling Arena.
I would also add that unless someone from the LateWar arena shows up, you probably will never see either the Chog or the Spit 16 flown correctly if you are hanging out at Dweeb Lake.
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Yeah cuz now the place is for FUN furballs instead of MAs P51 Pick fest
You're limiting yourself if you only fly in the DA furball pond. The quality of the opposition there is very, very low, and so you're not gong to receive proper feedback as to whether or not you're improving or making mistakes.
Sometimes I jump in for some quick action, and I see the same people in the same aircraft ho'ing and dying in exactly the same way that they were doing dweeby stuff 3 months before.
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If I am in a situation where I am on the attack or to a base with a horde, I choose the C-hog. Why? I can conserve E better in a C-hog at higher altitude and instigate the fight and merge with E on my side.
In a base defense situation, I would go to the spit (5,8,9) because they are a little more agile in tight defensive situations and I like how they handle in lower altitudes.
I like both in different situations.
My 2 cents.
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Gavagai has a point
I fly in MA quite alot but i also fly in DA.
DA is fun insane hilarious action and MA is just fight for your life. I like DA more but i still Do squad stuff in MA
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lmao
No picking and ho'n going on in Dweeb Lake.
oh wait... that's all that is going on at Dweeb Lake.
My mistake!
And for the record, the place is for DUELING. Hence the name Dueling Arena.
I would also add that unless someone from the LateWar arena shows up, you probably will never see either the Chog or the Spit 16 flown correctly if you are hanging out at Dweeb Lake.
I was shocked when i went to DA looking for a good one on one fight .....i have not been back.
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If I am in a situation where I am on the attack or to a base with a horde, I choose the C-hog. Why? I can conserve E better in a C-hog at higher altitude and instigate the fight and merge with E on my side.
In a base defense situation, I would go to the spit (5,8,9) because they are a little more agile in tight defensive situations and I like how they handle in lower altitudes.
I like both in different situations.
My 2 cents.
Or you could grab an F4U-1A and have better speed agility and acceleration. :D
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Or you could grab an F4U-1A and have better speed agility and acceleration. :D
Over the spit 5, 8? The 1A is one of my favorites but IMO it does not handle like the spit 5,8 in certain situations such as low alt handling.
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Both have advantages and disadvantages, to me it depends on the driver of the red icon. Many a time I wished I had been in another plane when I come across a Chog driven by a knowledgeable driver. But if I could choose a hog it would be either the A or D model most of the time, the C is a heavy beast.
The merge is usually a good tell, many a time I have merged with a Chog, realized it's a decent driver and immediately realize my arse is in trouble. With the spit, I have only met a few who I merge with that I start sweating after the merge, the plane has way too many weaknesses if you know how to expose them. When you meet a Chog, it is usually a fight to the death, not many avenues of escape unless you make that decision early on in the fight. But use the Chogs weight against it and you can be successful, underestimate it and your usually picking up a new ride in the hanger. Bottom line, of the two, 50-50, cuz the driver makes the difference between em.
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Well half your problam might be that your driving birds when infact you should be flying them.JUST KIDDING!!!
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl no wait..... :furious, ok, back to :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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I'm soooo sorry it was a really bad joke
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa252/Husky3D/crazy2.gif)
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I'm just lucky I can spell Chog,,,no CHog,,,umm C-Hog,,,ah geez!
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Just call her Charlie.
;)
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I got a lot of names for that unsightly beast but you would not like any of them. :D
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everyone on range gets a laugh when i call it the "cannon fodder Corsair"