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Title: Not Cool
Post by: SpazMan on February 20, 2009, 09:51:18 AM
Looks like the goverment wants to tax mileage driven..... :O

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29298315
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: john9001 on February 20, 2009, 10:02:44 AM
give me your money, all of your money, and your watch and rings, and the keys to your car.  Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: Chalenge on February 20, 2009, 10:03:40 AM
You already pay per mile taxes you just dont know and this is just another increase.
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: sluggish on February 20, 2009, 10:04:45 AM
Ha! the joke's on us!  Prohibitive fuel costs (due in part to taxes) has caused Americans to drive more efficient vehicles, therefore driving down revenue.  
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: SIK1 on February 20, 2009, 10:32:06 AM
Here's the change everybody wanted.
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: allaire on February 20, 2009, 10:41:15 AM
A you can count of the government to want even more of our money.  I'm taxed to death anyway.  How about i just send them all of my paycheck and they can pay for all of my expenses for me.  No, wait, I have a job that pays more than minimum wage so I can't get government assistance.  Plus I'm the wrong... you know I'm just gonna stop there.
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: Getback on February 20, 2009, 10:45:31 AM
Ludicrous
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: Anaxogoras on February 20, 2009, 10:49:32 AM
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Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood says he wants to consider taxing motorists based on how many miles they drive rather than how much gasoline they burn

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"We should look at the vehicular miles program where people are actually clocked on the number of miles that they traveled," the former Illinois Republican lawmaker said.

This is exactly what the gas guzzler auto-makers want.
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: SpazMan on February 20, 2009, 10:58:29 AM
You already pay per mile taxes you just dont know and this is just another increase.

How so???
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: Sox62 on February 20, 2009, 11:00:59 AM
How so???

Every time you fill up your tank.
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: Reschke on February 20, 2009, 11:04:40 AM
It will still be that way...they only want to add additional taxation onto that and here in Alabama they have suggested in recent weeks to hit you with a monthly fee if you DO NOT carpool. They are pushing a commute smart program where they will pay you $2 a day if you carpool...that money apparently goes to everyone on the registered carpool list. It kind of sucks because we do not have reliable public transportation in this state to take the burden off of people wanting to use it instead of their vehicles.
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: WilldCrd on February 20, 2009, 11:25:14 AM
the article also says they want to put a gps unit in every car.... :O
who is gonna pay for that? What if you ride a bike? Will you pay less? What if your car is broke down and you have it towed? Are they gonna remove the gas tax we already pay?

To many questions and as usual not enough answers.

Yeah we got change.... :cry
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: Heater on February 20, 2009, 11:29:39 AM
Why not,
it happens all over in just about every country in the world...in one form or another, but it amounts to the same. i.e.  a road tax...
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: Chalenge on February 20, 2009, 12:16:16 PM
Why not,
it happens all over in just about every country in the world...in one form or another, but it amounts to the same. i.e.  a road tax...


Thats not even close to true.
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: SpazMan on February 20, 2009, 12:36:08 PM
Every time you fill up your tank.

I understand that. My question would be is the mileage tax in addition to fuel taxes? Also I wonder
if they will increase the number of toll bridges and highways?
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: Chalenge on February 20, 2009, 12:54:38 PM
Yes the mileage tax is an increase and no toll roads are excluded for mileage tax purposes. I might find it more acceptable if the gas tax was removed but I will never find the gps device acceptable. I think you can imagine why that is a bad thing. This idea will further restrict commerce and the economy of America which is largely dependant upon transportation and the trucking industry.
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: ghostdancer on February 20, 2009, 03:58:34 PM
I agree the GPS device is just asking for the government later on to get "smart" ideas and open for abuse by them. Anybody who believes that they will never use that information is deluded.

Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: john9001 on February 20, 2009, 04:26:33 PM
the GPS can record your speed, you ticket is in the mail.
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: Babalonian on February 20, 2009, 04:39:10 PM
I'm worried about more than a GPS tag always getting me a speeding ticket every time I punch the gas for too long.  Think about how many goverment agencies trying to balance their budgets would take advantage of it.  I can see everyone from the meter-maid to the forest/park ranger useing this.
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: Fugita on February 20, 2009, 04:40:00 PM
Here in the good old People's Republic of Taxachusetts our dear Gov. wants to do one of three things.

1: Install a chip into the inspection sticker and charge by the mile.

2: Raise the turnpike tolls so that people can't afford them.

3: Raise the gas tax up by another 19 cents per gallon making it the highest in the nation at 42 cents per gallon.

Right now it looks like the 19 cents is winning.

All this share the wealth BS is really making my * hurt.
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: Sox62 on February 21, 2009, 02:08:40 AM
I understand that. My question would be is the mileage tax in addition to fuel taxes? Also I wonder
if they will increase the number of toll bridges and highways?

Yes and yes.
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: allaire on February 22, 2009, 01:49:52 PM
Only thing I can suggest is that every US citizen needs to call/write/email their senators and representatives and explain to them why this is a bad idea.  Pfft carpool I work on third shift and about 35 miles from my house.
Title: Re: Not Cool
Post by: wrongwayric on February 23, 2009, 04:17:14 PM
Got an "on-star" equipped vehicle then you already have gps tracking, carry a cell phone? yep it's in there also. Really george orwell wrote 1984 about big brother controlling all aspects of your life and while off by a few years it's becoming more of a fact than the fiction he wrote about.

Truckers have been yelling about double taxation for years in regards to toll roads, we pay an annual tax for road use, a fuel tax, and then have to pay a toll to drive on the road we were just taxed for? Trucks pay over 1/3 of the annual road tax and now the politicians feel that the average american motorist can be forced to pay the same.

What they will do is put a small receiver just like the I-pass/EZpass transmitter in every car, each time you fuel you will be charged a pre set fee for your car based on estimated mpg and the amount of fuel you buy. I think the test that i heard about it averaged 25 cents a gallon tax? So if you had a car that got 20 miles to the gallon you would have to drive 80 miles to pay 1 dollar in taxes?

The only way i would go along with this type of taxation is if it is locked up and can only be used for road repair/improvements and nothing else! The highway trust fund has been so abused for so long by so many politicians that it is useless and broke and beyond any help as it currently is being run/managed.