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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Digr1 on February 21, 2009, 03:09:16 PM
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why is there more players in an arean then the cap allows, I just tried to log in and the CAP was 200 yet 291 in the arena. Shouldnt the Caps be higher than the amout of players in it?
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search is your friend! As the cap drops in the blue arena, the cap limit in org will drop, but it doesn't kick people out so you get big number differances like when the war is won in blue.
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Ive seen this before.... :pray
Go easy on him boys......
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search is your friend! As the cap drops in the blue arena, the cap limit in org will drop, but it doesn't kick people out so you get big number differances like when the war is won in blue.
I didnt kick me out, just seems like good logic to keep the max even with the amout of players in the arena. I know most answers will be insults and other types of answer, thats all you ever read in here. But thane you for your responce, 1 question. When in the org. cap wil be oh say 350 and over 360 in it, yet bleu will have a cap of 450 and only a little over 200 in it.
Plwase no arguments, just wondering why that is.
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I didnt kick me out, just seems like good logic to keep the max even with the amout of players in the arena. I know most answers will be insults and other types of answer, thats all you ever read in here. But thane you for your responce, 1 question. When in the org. cap wil be oh say 350 and over 360 in it, yet bleu will have a cap of 450 and only a little over 200 in it.
Plwase no arguments, just wondering why that is.
If you program it the way that cap would always be greater then number of players currently in arena, there would be no cap at all. It would be rendered useless.
Caps are kinda leapfrogging to distribute players roughly evenly between the arenas. Once any LW arena reaches 70% of it's current capacity, the other arena cap will go up.
Of course, If you had read the HELP section, you would have already known that.
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Ive seen this before.... :pray
Go easy on him boys......
i personally think the arena caps a garbage.
but HT knows what hes doing.
and i dont.
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You tried to log in shortly after Noon, Central time. There are no caps before noon. When the caps kick in, they are based on the arena with the lower numbers. It usually takes an hour or two for them to even out and stabilize. Caps end at Midnight central time as well.
Go to the icky, other arena.
wrongway
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i personally think the arena caps a garbage.
but HT knows what hes doing.
and i dont.
too bad everyone doesn't think like this :salute
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i have often wondered why the cap drops to 100 when the other day we had 368 on one and 250 on another. then both late war caps dropped to 100-150. always in teh eavning for me aswell so i got to wait till i can get on. in the uk its about 7pm sometimes befor i can get on to a good arena with alot of ppl on and also ppl i recognise and like to fly with. even if they dont know me lol.
why not just keep the cap raised to 400 and leave it? or even 350. like with first person shooters. my old servers where 26 man maps. always.
just a thought
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Refer to these threads...
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,222087.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,239175.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,251659.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,241444.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,255564.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,206889.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,256063.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,192913.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,238191.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,258374.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,234308.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,233110.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,231536.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,242355.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,227141.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,255948.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,228411.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,257584.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,203474.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,221928.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,206881.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,207178.0.html
There are probably ten times that amount opened though, I got tired of trying to be a wise guy after 20 or so... :)
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YES!!! i have been waiting for a thread about cap's!! :rock (and on a side note) How can someone who has been registered seance 2004 not understand cap's?
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Refer to these threads...
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,222087.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,239175.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,251659.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,241444.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,255564.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,206889.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,256063.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,192913.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,238191.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,258374.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,234308.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,233110.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,231536.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,242355.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,227141.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,255948.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,228411.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,257584.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,203474.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,221928.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,206881.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,207178.0.html
There are probably ten times that amount opened though, I got tired of trying to be a wise guy after 20 or so... :)
DOH!! :rofl
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i have often wondered why the cap drops to 100 when the other day we had 368 on one and 250 on another. then both late war caps dropped to 100-150. always in teh eavning for me aswell so i got to wait till i can get on. in the uk its about 7pm sometimes befor i can get on to a good arena with alot of ppl on and also ppl i recognise and like to fly with. even if they dont know me lol.
why not just keep the cap raised to 400 and leave it? or even 350. like with first person shooters. my old servers where 26 man maps. always.
just a thought
Raise the cap to 400 and you would have one LW arena with 402 and the other with 50. That make you happy?
Both LW arenas will never be both maxed. If necessary, there will be 3 LW arenas.
GO TO THE OTHER LW ARENA.
Simple.
wrongway
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Well i feel the urge to rant my .02 for the cause:
After a year i still hate the caps, despite of all the reasoning of various players and staff of HTC, i still haven't changed my mind.
It blows to log in and see 311/100 on Orange, and 60/200 on Blue.
This happened to me last night, again.
So, i went in Blue and found out friends were at Orange.
They told me they were having a blast, good fights going on etc.
so instead of staying there, they chose to come to Blue.
And for what?
Just to keep me company, i felt really bad they left the good fights for that...
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get on before 6pm GMT you wont have a problem,
:rofl at Grizz, next time just find the dead horse pic it's quicker ;).
The caps usually sort themselves out after an hour or two, sometimes if you get lucky, go into blue if it hits the threshold around (105-10/150) it will push the cap back to 200 in orange jump out quick and see.
Personally I don't see the caps as a problem, it is an issue but not a problem. Would you rather be arguing about not having enough players to sustain a games existence? don't take it for granted just be happy, It is around 1pm EST that it kicks in and lets face it most of you should be at work. Go to the DA for an hour two and have some 1 vs 1's to improve your flying.
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get on before 6pm GMT you wont have a problem,
if only i could. my job stops me 90% of the time from getting on before 6pm :(
but i agree if i am ome like today im usualy on before 6 and stay on through the low cap point.
but i still they should be raised. why drop from a high cap to a low only to raise again to the same point. keep at 250 at the least.
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but i still they should be raised. why drop from a high cap to a low only to raise again to the same point. keep at 250 at the least.
Because it would end at 250/250 in LWO and 20 only in LWB. And LW would take MUCH longer now to get to any acceptable level. Same problem than before, just more amplified
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Because it would end at 250/250 in LWO and 20 only in LWB. And LW would take MUCH longer now to get to any acceptable level. Same problem than before, just more amplified
how would it. if the cap is 250 on each at peak times. to me it seems to drop at peak times. hense we get 350 in one and 120 in the other and both droped to 100.
to me it lookes like the cap drops at peak times and then rises slowly. at the end of teh day it dosent matter what we all think. HTc will not change it.
it just looks silly whnt the cap is 100/150 and both have 150+ on them. imo just have 1 server with a high number on like titanic tue. problem solved
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you'll never have a situation with BOTH arenas at 150/100 the reason you have over the odds is because the 2nd arena has too little players in it. the cap will increase when the second arena is nearly up to speed.
the cap kicks in at 6pm gmt/ 1pm est off peak for the US players. around this time is when the arenas start to fill up.
Having one arena was viewed by Htc as a bigger problem and thats why they put in the dynamic cap in the first place. Titanic tuesday for some is like marmite, you either love it or hate it.
personally i think we should have one arena midweek and the caps only at the weekend when way more players get online.
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how would it. if the cap is 250 on each at peak times. to me it seems to drop at peak times. hense we get 350 in one and 120 in the other and both droped to 100.
First, it doesn't drop that sharply at epak times. The big drop is once per day, when arena caps are getting into effect. That's at 12am, far from being peak.
Now have a look at how that works (I posted that stuff not long ago, but where we go again:
That's how arena population develops on a typical Friday. Actual numbers, sampled by me:
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3451/caps1ej8.jpg)
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4632/caps2jpgmd1.jpg)
(Yes I know... I should have used different colours)
The sole reason sharp drop in max capacity is to balance player numbers between both LW arenas as quick as possible.
If you set absolute minimum cap to 250, people would still stream into the arena with most players already in, until that arena reaches its cap.
Which would then result in LWO 250/250 and LWB 20/250. same problem, but now LWB would take much more time to get to the numbers required to raise LWO caps again. Simple maths.
Example with minimum cap of 200 instead of 100:
(http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/6636/hypocapln4.jpg)
See that in reality (first graph) it took LWB about 1 hour to get to hundred players. If minimum cap in LWO had been 200 (second graph), it would have taken more than 2 hours for LWB to get to 100 players. If you set minimum cap even higher (250, 300 or whatever), that effect would be even greater.
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lusche ceases to amaze me with his statistical analysis. :aok
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What does it matter? There can be 400 people in the arena and it will still be hard to find a consistent fight that doesn't fizzle out after a half hour once the attackers meet resistance. :lol