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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ariansworld on February 24, 2009, 11:36:41 AM
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Are these rifles good shooters? I found a place selling them for $799 with everything that comes with it. All matching numbers, I am just wondering if this would be a good buy.
Arian
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Is that the Rumanian copy of the Druganov rifle? If it is (I've shot them, but we just called it a "Rumanian Druganov") it's a fair shooter and pretty reliable, but you have to be careful to only fire high quality ammo- stay away from the steel-cased rounds. The extractor likes to break on them.
BTW, nice avatar. Eureka Seven rocks (and Talho is the hottest anime chick on a regular series IMO.) :aok
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There's nothing like being sexually attracted to a drawing. :D
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Are these rifles good shooters? I found a place selling them for $799 with everything that comes with it. All matching numbers, I am just wondering if this would be a good buy.
Arian
Is it local? You still in WV?
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There's nothing like being sexually attracted to a drawing. :D
Not quite, but I do find myself stalking women who look like her (and I do actually know one who does)
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http://www.dragunov.net/romanian_psl.html
If that is the same rifle then yes it is a fairly good one to shoot. Just follow the ammo advice listed above and BTW let me know where you got that price because I am now seriously interested.
Never mind that last question. I just found the site for them and I am ordering one today. I can't pass it up at that price.
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http://www.classicarms.us/ has got them.
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Yep, they are located in NC. Unfortunantly they dont do local pickups (I found that out at lunchtime) because I was making a trip to NC next weekend. Btw I am still located in WV, there is a local gunshop that I swear by now, ZMANS guns. The gentleman that owns the shop is a good guy and has good prices.
And yes E7 is the stuff, have you heard that there is a movie slated to pick up right where the series left off.
Arian
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Yep, they are located in NC. Unfortunantly they dont do local pickups (I found that out at lunchtime) because I was making a trip to NC next weekend. Btw I am still located in WV, there is a local gunshop that I swear by now, ZMANS guns. The gentleman that owns the shop is a good guy and has good prices.
And yes E7 is the stuff, have you heard that there is a movie slated to pick up right where the series left off.
Arian
I bought my WASR-10 from there. While I was in no means ripped off, he did feed me some stories. Be careful.
Have you heard of Appalachian Armory? Head out of East View like your going to Anmoore. Its actually a small building on a trailer before you get to Rt 58, past the Strip Club.
I'll give you his number tomorrow, I have it at work. He told me on the phone he would do $25 transer fees from Gunbroker. He also has a commercial on the radio, in the ad he says he has some sort of Trade-in Program. I was considering taking my two Mosins there and see If I could get another SKS or AK for cheap.
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hehehe I'll be running over to Pig Supply this weekend with another request.
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I bought my WASR-10 from there. While I was in no means ripped off, he did feed me some stories. Be careful.
Have you heard of Appalachian Armory? Head out of East View like your going to Anmoore. Its actually a small building on a trailer before you get to Rt 58, past the Strip Club.
I'll give you his number tomorrow, I have it at work. He told me on the phone he would do $25 transer fees from Gunbroker. He also has a commercial on the radio, in the ad he says he has some sort of Trade-in Program. I was considering taking my two Mosins there and see If I could get another SKS or AK for cheap.
I have seen the ad on tv, is the strip club that jb's gentleman club?
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I believe so.
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PSL = abrv. for romanian words > Pusca Semiautomata cu Luneta< ,in english would translate> Semiautomatic Riffle with Scope<
I did my mandatory military service in Romania,over 20 years ago, we used to have 2 snipers armed with PSL in every infantry platoon. I don't know if they still use it, at the time we were part of communist Warsaw Pact, 7.62 mm was standard caliber, in 2004 Romania joined NATO, maybe they retired the PSL that's why are on the market. Same like AK47 ,the PSL it's tough built, good range,heavy steel, not sensitive to dust and dirt, and watch the strong recoil.
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I read that the Cugir Armory in Romania is ceasing all production of AK type Rifles.
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The one I found online had the price for the same complete package for $749.95...
Here is the link.
http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/products_id/2392
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I picked one up from Aimsurplus. I haven't had a time to shoot it...
(http://xde.xanga.com/8d2f143560d30235010671/w185578943.jpg)
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Rifles comes with 4x6 scope. (top) Other scope is from previous purchase.
(http://x23.xanga.com/872f110ad5431235144711/w185696240.jpg)
(http://xfa.xanga.com/417f370ad1d32235144707/w185696237.jpg)
(http://xe1.xanga.com/4d2c850bd5531235144700/w185696230.jpg)
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Finally, I took my toy to a range.
(http://xaa.xanga.com/818f464336034235438987/w185947702.jpg)
I zeroed in at 50 yards. One scope couldn't be zeroed in due unavailability of required tools. But scope that was sold with a rifle worked just fine.
There were three major problems that popped up; weapon was not cleaned before shooting, use of surplus ammunition and unfavorable weather full of gusts.
This is what target looks like from a scope.
(http://x43.xanga.com/276f157737430235439002/w185947711.jpg)
That view is from 120-150 yards away.
(http://xaa.xanga.com/cbaf037537430235439003/w185947712.jpg)
Now due to use of surplus ammo and not cleaning, it made my grouping 'urinating' poor. Also random gusts of wing really messed everything up. Also since I never had experience shooting scoped rifle, my marksmanship was lacking. But as time went on and I controlled breathing and trigger control, my grouping shrank. I can assume that with everything right, I will be able to accurately and consistently hit credit card size target at that range.
(http://x38.xanga.com/d43f2371c3c32235439008/w185947717.jpg)
I found piece of metal laying around and placed a nice size dent on it.
(http://x07.xanga.com/aebf347103c32235439016/w185947725.jpg)
Cleaning it during sunset was nice and 'romantic' :D De-assembly is very similar to SKS and AK. Quick and easy to clean.
Shooting PSL is fun! It's not a sniper rifle - that's for sure. But as a squad support to lay fairly accurate fire, it does job very well.
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How is it for recoil and control under under rapid-fire use?
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Nice review! :aok
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Never been a big fan of Dragunov's, but the price looks good. :aok
What's a good source for good 7.62x54R ammo? (not the steel cased stuff) I know Winchester makes/made brass, but I believe there's a problem with the primer pockets.
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How is it for recoil and control under under rapid-fire use?
recoil; comparing it to M91/30, Mauser 98k or M44 - It's tame. After 100 rounds, I didn't have a bruise.
Rapid-fire - I didn't rapid fire so I do not know. But since it is a semi-auto, as quick as one can squeeze the trigger. Problem comes with re-acquiring target.
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Re-aquiring the target is a learned point with a scoped rifle. I learned many years ago that I was able to keep my eye in the scope of my .30-06 Model 700 through all 5 rounds and it is a bolt action rifle. It is fairly easy to do and just takes practice like all aspects of shooting.
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I finally took PSL to a range, again, to zero it in - I'm almost there. It's hard to do so since lowest setting for scope is 0 and than 100. Range I'm using is around 35 and 130.
Also, now I'm using correct 147 grain ammo.
(http://x9b.xanga.com/594f5a41d1033252240996/w200339629.jpg)
This is five round shot after setting scope to somewhat between 0 and 100. I still have tweaking to do. It was too hot to continue...
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IIRC proper way to setup a battle rifle is for 300 yds?
Which would be hits dead on center but 2 inchs high at 100 yards?
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Personally I have never had any desire to own a Russian weapon. No interest in them at all. Too many really good American and European weapons of quality out there to bother with a Russian firearm.
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IIRC proper way to setup a battle rifle is for 300 yds?
Which would be hits dead on center but 2 inchs high at 100 yards?
I'm not going to battle here and range scale on scope is from 0 to 10. One click is all that's needed to change range.