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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Selino631 on February 24, 2009, 08:18:04 PM
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Hey, I plan on enlisting in the U.S. Army throught the 14month (extended delayed entry program) in may, so i wont ship to Basic until i graduate high school summer 2010. But the problem is i am underweight and can't be proccessed at MEPS yet. I am 17 years old, weigh 118lbs, and height is 5 10. Anybody have any weight gain advice? Its so hard for me to gain weight, i eat eat and eat but i dont gain a pound! And i really want to get proccessed in may so i am guarenteed a signing bonus before the economy takes it away.
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Well I can tell you what Im doing to gain weight for football. And it works.
1. Is your diet. I mean 6 meals a day. Covering all the main things, carbs and proteins are the big ones that you need to cover.
A large breakfast is really good. Heres what I eat for breakfast. 2 bowls of cereal, 8 sunny side up eggs, and some hash browns with a large milk.
If your High School, idk how big your lunch is. But at mine, its not that big. So try packing something for before and after lunch.
2. You don't want to gain weight through fat but through muscle. So you should run out to your local GNC and pick up protein and maybe creitein(spelled right?). Right now Im on a 1 month cycle. 1 month protein and creitein, 2nd month just protein. and in that cycle.
3. Get in the weight room.
Thats basically how you want to gain GOOD weight.
Hope that helps
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Well...make sure you exercise to build muscle...then that should help you eat more and gain a bit. I'm in the same boat. I can eat 2 lbs of pasta and not gain an oz. High metabolism is what it is. How much do you need to gain?
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Check out Mens Health for good sound advice on diets including recipes, weight lifting, and safe gaining.
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Make sure you get plenty of protein (and not just vegan stuff, eat real animal flesh, eggs, drink milk, etc) and do strength training exercises. You can do some cardio stuff, but you will want to get some advice on how to build major muscle groups without injuring yourself. If you have 14 months you should make it as long as you don't have any lifestyle issues that work against your effort. Without sounding snippy, being a vegetarian can sometimes be a huge barrier against healthy weight management, and doing too much cardio exercise like running can also work against you. Swimming can build muscle but it often leads to very low body fat percentage.
Whatever you do, don't try to gain weight by sitting around playing video games and eating fatty snacks. Any excess fat you gain before basic will end up burned right off. You're better off building muscle if you can, and figuring out what sorts of foods you have to eat so you can focus on those during your *short* mealtimes during basic training.
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I remember when I had your problem. I wish I had it again. The best weight gain plan is to get old and lazy.
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Well I can tell you what Im doing to gain weight for football. And it works.
1. Is your diet. I mean 6 meals a day. Covering all the main things, carbs and proteins are the big ones that you need to cover. i weighed 160# when i graduated. i was a short order cook, so i was eating almost constantly, plus the nrom.....breakfast, lunch, go home, dinner, hit the gym, go home dinner again. i got all the way up to 163. :rofl i don't work out anymore, but at 46 years old, i still only weigh 163. :aok
A large breakfast is really good. Heres what I eat for breakfast. 2 bowls of cereal, 8 sunny side up eggs, and some hash browns with a large milk.
If your High School, idk how big your lunch is. But at mine, its not that big. So try packing something for before and after lunch.
2. You don't want to gain weight through fat but through muscle. So you should run out to your local GNC and pick up protein and maybe creitein(spelled right?). Right now Im on a 1 month cycle. 1 month protein and creitein, 2nd month just protein. and in that cycle.
3. Get in the weight room.
Thats basically how you want to gain GOOD weight.
Hope that helps
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:rofl under weight? Are you kiddin' me!? Eat,Eat, Eat. Don't exercise. Drink beer and eat. You need some biscuits and gravy, cheeseburgers,fried chicken, mashed taters and gravy,ice cream, snickers bars, M&Ms and wash it all down with beer and sweet tea! Under weight :rofl Come visit me and you'll be a fat a&$ in 3 short weeks :rock
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:rofl under weight? Are you kiddin' me!? Eat,Eat, Eat. Don't exercise. Drink beer and eat. You need some biscuits and gravy, cheeseburgers,fried chicken, mashed taters and gravy,ice cream, snickers bars, M&Ms and wash it all down with beer and sweet tea! Under weight :rofl Come visit me and you'll be a fat a&$ in 3 short weeks :rock
Don't forget to put it all between bread.
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lift weights muscles weigh double(i think?).... well alot more than fat
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i need to gain 14lbs, before, well, was hoping before may. I am taking a Strength-training class in gym and i go to PT at the recruiting station. Some of u guys might not think thats much but for me its a ton. I heard that if i get alot of protien it'll help?
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<insert unbelievably inappropriate comment about getting a lot of protein>
Double quarter pounder with cheese 2 times a day and watch TV for no less than 4 hours straight a day directly after consuming all that protein.
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Alot of Muscle Milk and a little bit of exercise.
:aok
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Did MEPS say they won't accept you unless you gain the weight? I've never heard of them rejecting someone for being underweight.
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All you have to do is turn 35. The weight will show up all by itself.
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Soccer three times a week and a good weight regimen (different muscle groups every day) and a bulk product:
http://www.allstarhealth.com/f/weider-super_mega_mass_2000.htm
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Almost forgot... Have sex. Lots of it. Testosterone helps build muscles and having sex boosts testosterone levels.
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Don't neglect your legs (you can put on a lot quickly in your calves, hammies, and quads) but move away from distance running which usually just makes you leaner. Sprints, stairs, calf raises, and squats with whey protein and creatine supplements (pick some up at GNC or online), throw in some glutamine for faster muscle recovery so you can work out 4-5 days a week.
Hit up all the muscle groups, but don't neglect your legs. lots of guys (including me) fall into that trap.
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Id be willing to send ya some of my weight.
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I recently lost 14lbs. Feel free to find it. :D
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Lucky bastiges. I just look at food and gain weight. :cry
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i need to gain 14lbs, before, well, was hoping before may. I am taking a Strength-training class in gym and i go to PT at the recruiting station. Some of u guys might not think thats much but for me its a ton. I heard that if i get alot of protien it'll help?
Carbs too (white breads, brown/white rice, pasta, potatoes), not too much b/c they're not that good for putting on healthy weight, but as I was told they are an essential part to healthy weight gain, so a decent portion should be had with each meal. Also since it sounds like you're pretty physicaly active, some more carbs in your diet probabley won't negatively effect you.
14lbs shouldn't be too hard, but I have friends and girlfriends that can eat 3 times as much as I do in a day and weigh less than half my weight, so I know it's not easy for some people to gain weight (never really a problem for me though, I'm 6'4" 285lbs). Honestly, if you aren't already, start having a very large breakfast every day (protien and carbs: eggs, potatoes, milk, lots of toast. Add some OJ, fruit, bacon and/or sausage as you want or need). If you're going into the Army you'll be waking up at sunrise if not earlier for a while, so if you don't have time in your schedule now for breakfast, might as well get used to going to bed earlier to wake up earlier for that. After that, eat a meal every three hours, even if you're not hungry (just don't eat so much that you feel sick, lol). Also make sure you get at least 8 hours of sleep every day. A good night's rest for your body will mean that your body needs to physicaly tax itself less to operate the next day.
Eat lots of protiens and carbs, and make sure you eat plenty of fruit and fresh vegetables too.
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Holy crap, I thought I was light. I'm 5'11 135lbs. I would go somewere like GNC or a store like that. They will probably put you on some protein shakes and things like that. On the other hand you should be eating pasta, bread and anything with carbs in it. That helps gain weight as well. I would work out the same way as normal, but eat a whole bunch more so that you don't lose as many carbs and you can gain weight from that.
We graduate at the same time, but I'm only 16 (wonderful) so I really don't have any option like that until late June of this year. I realy don't like the way you wne in. I think the best way to go in as an officer, no matter what the enlisted say. My LTC. in JROTC used a metaphor why it's so much better becoming an officer,"Enlisted men are trying to tell you that you need to know how to flip that burger. You need to know it inside out. But the thing about it is, you can go to college, look at the enlisted flipping the burger and say, 'oh, I don't need to know how to do that, I see how do it now' and your getting paied more." Some people do have that luxury, but if you have the chance to go off to college than do it, you will get a much better life.
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I think the best way to go in as an officer, no matter what the enlisted say. My LTC. in JROTC used a metaphor why it's so much better becoming an officer,"Enlisted men are trying to tell you that you need to know how to flip that burger. You need to know it inside out. But the thing about it is, you can go to college, look at the enlisted flipping the burger and say, 'oh, I don't need to know how to do that, I see how do it now' and your getting paied more." Some people do have that luxury, but if you have the chance to go off to college than do it, you will get a much better life.
Peter Principle will apply to this one quoted above that just doesn't get it. I can't wait to see this future occifer call in arty on the wrong map coordinates...vaporizing himself and all around him because he passed a note to a lowly enlisted person to pass on up the chain and the coordinates were wrong. joking...maybe he will learn the right way to talk to enlisted people.
The theory that employees within an organization will advance to their highest level of competence and then be promoted to and remain at a level at which they are incompetent.
Laurence Johnston Peter (1919–1990)
JROTC...exposing those little spongy minds to the rantings of a whacked out, way past their prime, should have never been promoted officer...
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Protein shakes 3 times a day in addition to normal meals put 20lbs onto me in 3 months or so. I was also eating greasy galley food too.
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Call A-Rod. He's prolly got a stash of "over the counter" supps lying around.
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JROTC...exposing those little spongy minds to the rantings of a whacked out, way past their prime, should have never been promoted officer...
Funny thing, we have a CSM as well, and he said the same thing you just said. Think about what I said, why would I get a job that you are doing now, that I can do and get paid more for it? and I probably have more knowlege on the basis of the type of job you are working on. I'm just saying, the officer way, is the way to go.
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The 7 Habits of Highly Effective Nutritional Programs & Protein Prejudice
Ongoing discussion on the work and articles done by Dr. John M Berardi, Ph.D on effective nutrition.
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=53351 (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=53351)
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Muscle weighs more than fat.... so bulk up.
There are heaps of good sources of info on how to build muscle mass via protein and diet with a training schedule.
If you're going to the army, you're going to want to be built... not just fat.
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Hey guys thanks for the information, I am gonna start trying that stuff! I really appreciate it!!
i'll let you know how it goes by the time may comes. <S>!!!!
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I would say to eat tasty foods, as they are the ones that make you gain weight, followed by a nice afternoon swim for muscles, but that hasn't helped me out that much...
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Works for a lot of people it seems.
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A friend and I are both working out at the moment and we have very different body types.
My body has taken to a few years of smoking, drinking beer regularly and eating rubbish far too often like most 20 year old people do.... I put on a few kgs. Not a lot... I'm not a fat lolloping sea cow or anything, I'm 6'0 and 182 pounds. I just need to burn 5kgs or so to get back to being in shape. I want to put some more muscle into that as well. I don't care if my actual weight goes up, as long as it's muscle replacing fat.
He is the opposite. The same diet has seen him skinny as always, no fat on him at all. He can eat what ever the hell he wants with no result what so ever.
He has to work really, really hard to eat everything he needs to whilst doing heavy weights just to put on a single kilo.
You should talk to a dietitian to gain the weight healthily and in a way that you won't just burn off.
You need to eat 6 meals a day, loads of protein and carbs and all sorts of stuff. Don't just shovel fat into your face, that won't help.
When you build muscle your body will probably start burning more calories because having muscle burns more calories even at rest.
You'll need to do weights and eat a lot of the right food.
I'm not qualified to give you a sure-fire solution, just what worked for my friend who sounds similar to you. He has had some good results in weight and muscle gain. Do yourself a favour and spend some money on a dietitian and some weights that you can do at home.
I'm setting up a gym in my garage and so far it has been fantastic. I've got a bad knee, so I can't run any more than a couple of kilometers before I end up in pain for the rest of the week, so I've got a bike in there, I've got a rowing machine coming from a family friend and I've got a weights bench. Get the stereo going with some heavy metal and I've got my own gym set up. Run upstairs, do some more free weights on the carpet, grab a cold shower and go to work.
It's only been a few weeks and I'm already seeing massive results in both fat and muscle.
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Some of this is really bad advice. <g> Other stuff is decent.
Don't overdo it on the protein (you can). Make sure you're drinking lots of water when you do mass up your protein intake. 40-60g protein per meal is not bad if you're well hydrated and active. Look at what you're eating. You want useful calories. Not empty ones. For your weight and desired weight gain in that time, probably something like 3k calories a day. Eat six times a day, that's 3 meals and 3 snacks in between. This keeps your metabolism high and your body out of starvation mode. Which means you're burning up fat instead of storing it. The rest of the nutrients are going towards muscle repair.
The only way you will gain mass is to break down your muscles through exercise.
They'll repair themselves bigger and stronger than they were. Which means you'll weigh more. Muscle weights more than fat.
It also makes you stronger and more fit. To really gain mass you'll need to lift weights. But don't ignore the simple body weight exercises like pull ups, push ups, and crunches, that will strengthen your core. I wouldn't even start lifting curls until you can do 10 pull ups.
Edit: And get your 7-9 hours of sleep each night. Otherwise you can eat all you want, and work out like Ahhhnold, and it's all for waste.
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You must be a stick; 115lbs? i hope its pure muscle. I weigh near 180lbs and its not pure muscle, maybe 9 - 16lbs loss (of fat) and ill look like someone put steroids into me. I would recommend the 4 following sports:
Football (Its a good physical sport and it requires you to eat protein for a strong enduring body.)
Volleyball (Not just a girls sport, its also a guys sport and it helps you build muscle in both the upper and bottom parts of the body.)
Soccer (It will definitely burn your fat to hell. Helps build stronger legs so you can stride for a longer period of time to a farther distance.)
Olympic wrestling (I'm in the sport and it is painful from time to time but you get your whole body moving and stretching while putting on GOOD weight.)
Also, tons of protein and you'll be about 160 - 190lbs of beautiful muscle.
-FYB
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Did MEPS say they won't accept you unless you gain the weight? I've never heard of them rejecting someone for being underweight.
They are these days due to the number of fall outs in basic training, but honestly I was alittle underwieght too when i joined, I gained 20 pounds throughout basic in muscle though (400 push ups after training will do this) Selino congrats on joining the Army, I joined about 8 months ago and im loving it. Here are some suggestions for you in your upcoming trials. Start exercising now, do push-ups but make sure you do them properly or else your not gunna better yourself. Run about 4-7 miles a week and you will be better then 90% of your company. You seem tall so rucking should be pretty easy for you just know its gunna suck and you just got to do it. If you want to practice for rucking just pack some 2 liters up with sand and put them in your back pack and walk 5-6 miles at a faster pace. Otherthen that just stay motivated with it and your time is gunna fly by, except recovery which is cleaning at the end of basic, dont look forward to it.
BTW what MOS are you planning on going into, 11B is the way to be but if you play this game I suggest you look at 15P if you dont have anything that will get you disqualified for a top secret clearance, its a Avation Operations Specialist, air traffic controller for Army bases. :aok
:saluteJunkyII
Pvt Collard
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i need to gain 14lbs, before, well, was hoping before may. I am taking a Strength-training class in gym and i go to PT at the recruiting station. Some of u guys might not think thats much but for me its a ton. I heard that if i get alot of protien it'll help?
make sure you hit the protein window too - after hard exercise is about the only time muscles absorb amino acids in any quantity, so make sure you eat your main protein (lean meat pref) within an hour of training. faster recovery for muscle cells = more muscle mass :aok carbs provide the energy you need for training, so meals (several hours) before training should be carb based.
best tip - get friendly with one of these:
(http://www.concept2.co.uk/rower/images/rower_d_rollovers.jpg)
and combine it with weights sessions geared towards strength and endurance rather than cosmetics.
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Ive been in the construction industry for 15 years 6 ft tall weighed 180, 15 years ago. Now 5' 11'' 350 lbs.
Simple get a job in construction Eat once a day only at gas stations, fast food, and doughnut shops you'll pack it on in no time flat.
Found out if you only eat one time a day or only every other day your body thinks its starving so it stores as much of the food as it can as fat for the starvation periods when it isn't really necessary to do so.
This happened at the end of WW11 when the prison camps were found. The hospital staff scheduler forgot to feed one of the wards every other day for a period of two weeks. These patients gained more weight than any other patients in the hospital.
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Hey guys thanks for the information, I am gonna start trying that stuff! I really appreciate it!!
i'll let you know how it goes by the time may comes. <S>!!!!
Take a crash course in Judo, Kickboxing, or Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu while you're at it. Technique > size, and a lot of the combatitives you're going to train take elements directly from those arts.
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24 beers a day keeps the muscle tone away, and pizza at 2 A.M. Actually this is terrible advice you'll just end up looking like shawk. ;)
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They are these days due to the number of fall outs in basic training, but honestly I was alittle underwieght too when i joined, I gained 20 pounds throughout basic in muscle though (400 push ups after training will do this) Selino congrats on joining the Army, I joined about 8 months ago and im loving it. Here are some suggestions for you in your upcoming trials. Start exercising now, do push-ups but make sure you do them properly or else your not gunna better yourself. Run about 4-7 miles a week and you will be better then 90% of your company. You seem tall so rucking should be pretty easy for you just know its gunna suck and you just got to do it. If you want to practice for rucking just pack some 2 liters up with sand and put them in your back pack and walk 5-6 miles at a faster pace. Otherthen that just stay motivated with it and your time is gunna fly by, except recovery which is cleaning at the end of basic, dont look forward to it.
BTW what MOS are you planning on going into, 11B is the way to be but if you play this game I suggest you look at 15P if you dont have anything that will get you disqualified for a top secret clearance, its a Avation Operations Specialist, air traffic controller for Army bases. :aok
:saluteJunkyII
Pvt Collard
Thanks for the advice, I do go to PT at the army recruiting station every tuesday and thursday, I am also in a strength training class in school. as for MOS i am trying to decide between 11B and 19D Cavalry Scout.
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Thanks for the advice, I do go to PT at the army recruiting station every tuesday and thursday, I am also in a strength training class in school. as for MOS i am trying to decide between 11B and 19D Cavalry Scout.
Thats what im talkin about, bot great MOSs but you got to know theres really only 2 jobs in the Army and any infantrymen will tell you this, they are Infantry and support, everyone else just supports infantry
Queen of Battle! Follow Me! :salute
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Thanks for the advice, I do go to PT at the army recruiting station every tuesday and thursday, I am also in a strength training class in school. as for MOS i am trying to decide between 11B and 19D Cavalry Scout.
IDK if any of you guys know the awards for ROTC, like I said I can't do anything until I'm 17. But I was the only kid, in our entire battalion, to recieve the presidential physical fitness award. Realy what it is is: 1 mile run, Shuttle run, Sit and Reach, Curl Ups and pull ups. I recived 85% in all area of the challenge, and I now I get the award.
I'm no slouch when it comes to fitness. I am in shape and will be for a long time coming.
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I remember when I had your problem. I wish I had it again. The best weight gain plan is to get old and lazy.
:lol Ain't that the truth.
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IDK if any of you guys know the awards for ROTC, like I said I can't do anything until I'm 17. But I was the only kid, in our entire battalion, to recieve the presidential physical fitness award. Realy what it is is: 1 mile run, Shuttle run, Sit and Reach, Curl Ups and pull ups. I recived 85% in all area of the challenge, and I now I get the award.
I'm no slouch when it comes to fitness. I am in shape and will be for a long time coming.
Im not sure about this award but the Amry physical fitness medal is given to all those who score above a 90 in each event, 2 mile run, 2 mins of push ups and 2 minutes of situps. But stop trying to brag on someones thread, besides your ROTC drill privates arent that good at grading they just want the unit to look good on paper, this is something that happens all of the military :aok :salute
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IDK if any of you guys know the awards for ROTC, like I said I can't do anything until I'm 17. But I was the only kid, in our entire battalion, to recieve the presidential physical fitness award. Realy what it is is: 1 mile run, Shuttle run, Sit and Reach, Curl Ups and pull ups. I recived 85% in all area of the challenge, and I now I get the award.
I'm no slouch when it comes to fitness. I am in shape and will be for a long time coming.
I wish my school had JROTC :(
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You will know it as soon as you go to basic. Anyone with at least 3 years of ROTC is automatically a PFC.
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Yea but he will also know that some people our PFCs just because they told the recruiter to make them pfc or else they wouldnt join, when going to recruiters talk them into everything, say no if your infantry without a 15k+ bonus :salute