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Title: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Sincraft on February 27, 2009, 05:32:48 PM: (http://www.techdigest.tv/k7-bomber.jpg)

Russian Bomber - guns were suggested but never placed on prototype that crashed. Very limited real photos, this is a rendering.
Built in 1930something..
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: NHawk on February 27, 2009, 05:38:27 PM: Well, if that's the case you won't be playing for a VERY long time. :)

You might want to start building that house you always wanted one stick at a time. You'll have plenty of time to finish it and a new sim pit to fly that plane in.
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Scotch on February 27, 2009, 05:43:23 PM: Oh jeez
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Lusche on February 27, 2009, 05:46:55 PM: Quote from: Sincraft on February 27, 2009, 05:32:48 PM
(http://www.techdigest.tv/k7-bomber.jpg)

Russian Bomber - guns were suggested but never placed on prototype that crashed. Very limited real photos, this is a rendering.
Built in 1930something..

This thing is pure fanatsy. There never was any plane like that, even without the guns

This is the inspiration for it

(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2631/014iu7.jpg)

But note the vastly different sizes.
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: MjTalon on February 27, 2009, 05:49:02 PM: :lol

Won't be playing for a while then!

:lol
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: texastc316 on February 27, 2009, 06:28:00 PM: I would HO in that, FTW!!!
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: uptown on February 27, 2009, 06:30:55 PM: Doesn't 999000 already fly that one? :uhoh
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: WWhiskey on February 27, 2009, 07:02:22 PM: Quote from: Sincraft on February 27, 2009, 05:32:48 PM
(http://www.techdigest.tv/k7-bomber.jpg)

Russian Bomber - guns were suggested but never placed on prototype that crashed. Very limited real photos, this is a rendering.
Built in 1930something..

looks like someone got ther lego battleship parts mixed in with there lego skyscraper parts
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: weazely on February 27, 2009, 07:07:03 PM: If you were too shoot all of those guns at once while in mid-air you would stop and fall out of the sky.
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Twizzty on February 27, 2009, 07:41:28 PM: Quote from: weazely on February 27, 2009, 07:07:03 PM
If you were too shoot all of those guns at once while in mid-air you would stop and fall out of the sky.

Fire them all backwards! :noid
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: zoozoo on February 27, 2009, 07:54:46 PM: what a waste of material :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on February 27, 2009, 07:59:20 PM: That would be a awesome sight, to watch that bomber dive in, fire all its guns stop instantly as if hitting the ground, and watching every person in a seat crash through the front windows.

only to watch the bodys beat the A/C to the ground.

The 75mm bent the 25's frame to heck and back, imagine this joker for a plane,lol.
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Roundeye on February 27, 2009, 08:04:55 PM: Quote from: weazely on February 27, 2009, 07:07:03 PM
If you were too shoot all of those guns at once while in mid-air you would stop and fall out of the sky.

I don't know about that, but you would certainly blow all of those windows out of the cockpit or worse yet kill everyone inside from the concusion.
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: APDrone on February 27, 2009, 09:00:15 PM: Each of those 2 battleship turrets weigh 192 tons. ( 384,000 lbs ) and the guns were an additional 804,000 lbs, for a total weight of 2,376,000 lbs for the guns/turrets alone.

The wartime load capacity of the current C5B Galaxy is 291,000 lbs.

Methinks this is a prank.

:eek:
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Getback on February 27, 2009, 09:31:03 PM: Well, If I'm in front of that plane I'm putting up the white flag but fast.
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Enker on February 27, 2009, 11:28:49 PM: Quote from: APDrone on February 27, 2009, 09:00:15 PM
Each of those 2 battleship turrets weigh 192 tons. ( 384,000 lbs ) and the guns were an additional 804,000 lbs, for a total weight of 2,376,000 lbs for the guns/turrets alone.

The wartime load capacity of the current C5B Galaxy is 291,000 lbs.

Methinks this is a prank.

:eek:

Well, then we need to get on top of our aviation tech, hmmm?
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Sincraft on February 28, 2009, 01:28:10 AM: Actually if you do the research, a battery like gun has been proposed and attempts to implement did occur in ww2. I don't remember what ship it was, but there WAS an American version.

The deflection from the guns was not the thing they needed to overcome, and if I were to place a bet I would say it had to do with WEIGHT and the lightweight metal needed to have a gun like that on board.

This ship DID exist without the guns, it crashed of course. :)

It's not that far fetch to put guns on an aircraft and have them fire without issue. What is far fetched is to actually have the aircraft FLY.

In AH2 the meaning gang **** would take on a different definition.
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Sincraft on February 28, 2009, 01:34:57 AM: http://www.rusring.net/~levin/k7/k777.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalinin_K-7

Oh god and please don't mix reality with digital recreation. The black and whites were the only real photos, everything else is a rendering including the people wearing modern clothes with roll on luggage lol.
Also note the german opel
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Larry on February 28, 2009, 01:35:23 AM: Quote from: Sincraft on February 28, 2009, 01:28:10 AM

This ship DID exist without the guns, it crashed of course. :)

No it DIDN'T.
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Sincraft on February 28, 2009, 01:38:24 AM: Quote from: Larry on February 28, 2009, 01:35:23 AM
No it DIDN'T.

Yes....it did.
K-7 first flew on 11 August 1933. Then on 21 November 1933 the aircraft crashed due to structural failure of one of the tail booms, killing 14 people aboard and one on the ground. Although two more prototypes were ordered in 1933, the project was canceled in 1935 before they could be completed.[1]

Ref wiki.
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: hubsonfire on February 28, 2009, 01:42:18 AM: You're not exactly a great source for accurate details, being a paranoid schizo type. Trusting a wiki article, using Russian details, coming from you, is rrrreeeeaaaaaallllllyyyyy a stretch.
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Sincraft on February 28, 2009, 01:45:29 AM: Quote from: hubsonfire on February 28, 2009, 01:42:18 AM
You're not exactly a great source for accurate details, being a paranoid schizo type. Trusting a wiki article, using Russian details, coming from you, is rrrreeeeaaaaaallllllyyyyy a stretch.

Hardly. I understand reality, do you... or do you just fall in with what's popular and trust mob rule with the rest of the lemmings?
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Larry on February 28, 2009, 01:46:52 AM: Quote from: Sincraft on February 28, 2009, 01:38:24 AM
Yes....it did.
K-7 first flew on 11 August 1933. Then on 21 November 1933 the aircraft crashed due to structural failure of one of the tail booms, killing 14 people aboard and one on the ground. Although two more prototypes were ordered in 1933, the project was canceled in 1935 before they could be completed.[1]

Ref wiki.

That plane you posted IS NOT the K-7.
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Sincraft on February 28, 2009, 01:55:01 AM: Quote from: Larry on February 28, 2009, 01:46:52 AM
That plane you posted IS NOT the K-7.

You're splitting hairs but yes that plane posted with the guns (note I said without the guns) is not reality. Nor was it ever pouring down on the german UFO. The rendering is exaggerated obviously. Again, ref the wiki and research from there. Don't have the site but there are plans drawn into CAD (if anyone uses cad anymore).

Might be interesting to see an RC model of this if someone had enough money, guts, and time to reproduce :o
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: sunfan1121 on February 28, 2009, 03:32:28 AM: If you want a slow bomber with little defensive fire, why not just fly the stuka?
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Delirium on February 28, 2009, 03:41:33 AM: Quote from: sunfan1121 on February 28, 2009, 03:32:28 AM
If you want a slow bomber with little defensive fire, why not just fly the P38G?

Fixed!
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: 96Delta on February 28, 2009, 04:16:50 AM: Quote from: Sincraft on February 27, 2009, 05:32:48 PM
(http://www.techdigest.tv/k7-bomber.jpg)

Russian Bomber - guns were suggested but never placed on prototype that crashed. Very limited real photos, this is a rendering.
Built in 1930something..

Nice find Sincraft! :salute
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Ciaphas on February 28, 2009, 04:30:46 AM: I knew it! Hitler did escape in a spaceship!

Here's our proof, compliments of Mental ray!

(http://www.rusring.net/~levin/k7/kr771.jpg)
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Masherbrum on February 28, 2009, 07:36:14 AM: Thank God for the "Happy Meal Generation."
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: APDrone on February 28, 2009, 02:47:53 PM: Previously discussed in the Wishlist forum..

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,257508.0.html
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: vorticon on February 28, 2009, 03:08:38 PM: but will it take off on a conveyor belt?
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: 33Vortex on February 28, 2009, 03:50:54 PM: There are only two types of aircraft, fighters and targets.

More targets 4tw! :D
Title: Re: Not playing another day until this plane enters the arena
Post by: Bear76 on February 28, 2009, 04:57:17 PM: Obviously an LTAR design :lol