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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: trax1 on February 28, 2009, 07:01:22 PM
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I need to buy a new motherboard, I have a 478 socket chip and there's really little selection for that, so I want to get a converter to get a 775, I know they make them because I saw it on a site once for like $20, now I can't find it, so if you know somewhere I can find a converter from a 478 to a 775 let me know.
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Never seen or heard one of these, and to be honest it just sounds like a bad idea. You might be better off getting a decent 775 Socket Mobo, they're not that much these days.
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Never seen or heard one of these, and to be honest it just sounds like a bad idea. You might be better off getting a decent 775 Socket Mobo, they're not that much these days.
X2
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I think I recall these existing with Slot 1 and the Socket 370 CPU's. You could put a Socket 370 Pentium 3 in a Slot 1 adapter.
I do not believe they make them for any other sockets as it would be fairly infeasible. Slot 1's gave you a lot of customary room to work with to fashion an adapter.
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Correct. There was a Slot 1 to socket 370 converter but I've never heard of any other type. It allowed you to run up to a 1.4 Gb Pentium 3 or Celeron on a Slot 1 board. You can still find those on e-bay and google shopping.
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they stopped making them when the newer 775 pcu were made
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You can get more than a decent Core2Duo for $150 or so, and a middle-to-high-end C2D for $188 or so (hell, some of the best of the chips available last year have dropped so much in price I paid MORE money for LESS power on the CPU I have now.
Those socket adapters are usually for lower power chips, and many have limitations on what you can use in them.
On top of that, if your CPU is so old you need an adapter (assuming that's the case) your FSB speeds might be so slow you have to purchase an obsolete motherboard just to accept them (adapter or not). In that case you're shooting yourself in the foot and not gaining ANY benefit from upgrading.
Just get a new low-end CPU (budget), because the C2Ds at 1.6GHz probably outperform the old Pentium 4s at 2.66 GHz. Then upgrade later when you can afford better.
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You can get more than a decent Core2Duo for $150 or so, and a middle-to-high-end C2D for $188 or so (hell, some of the best of the chips available last year have dropped so much in price I paid MORE money for LESS power on the CPU I have now.
Those socket adapters are usually for lower power chips, and many have limitations on what you can use in them.
On top of that, if your CPU is so old you need an adapter (assuming that's the case) your FSB speeds might be so slow you have to purchase an obsolete motherboard just to accept them (adapter or not). In that case you're shooting yourself in the foot and not gaining ANY benefit from upgrading.
Just get a new low-end CPU (budget), because the C2Ds at 1.6GHz probably outperform the old Pentium 4s at 2.66 GHz. Then upgrade later when you can afford better.
For what its worth
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116072
E5200 Wolfdale - $72.99
Motherboard
$50-$60 for a cheapy. At least get a name brand one, nothing like a Jetway or similar.
Ram:
$20-22 for 2x1gb DDR2
=
Worlds of performance difference
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Asrock sells a motherboard + 3Ghz Core2Duo combo for less than $200.
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they do make a 478 to 775 converter
http://blogofwishes.com/pc-peripherals/motherboard-cpu-socket-775-to-478-cpu-adapter/
but they dont make a 775 to 478 converter .. which after reading again is what you want
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From the picture, it was not clear, but if the adapter does not have an external power connector, then I wold not use it.
One of the main reasons the pin count increased dramatically with the LGA775 is power and ground pin increases. The 478 pin socket on the motherboard cannot carry all the power and ground of the LGA775 without risking potential damage to the capacitors on the motherboard which help filter the power to the CPU.
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i didnt see one either.. but you can get cheap 775 chips that will run circles around the 478 chip you have.
the celeron 775's start at 22.00
and the P4 775's start at 44.00
http://www.pricewatch.com
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Thanks guys, I think I am going to just buy a new processor & motherboard, this way like some of you have said, I can just buy a cheap CPU and later when I have the money buy a better one. :salute
Actually if someone thats knows more about this stuff then me could look for a good motherboard CPU combo for under $130 I'd really appreciate it.
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Check your other thread. ;)
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AMD X2 4400+ 39.50 + free shipping
AM2+ Motherboard MSI K9N6PGM2-V AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard 49.99
2GB's DDR2 Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory 19.99
CPU fan COOLER MASTER DK8-9GD4A-0L-GP 95mm CPU Cooler
125.00 + shipping
the AM2+ board has great upgrade potential to the Phenom II's
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=prodcpu2&prod_no=1472&maincat_no=1
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you couldn't pay me enough to use an AMD system. For now, Intel is the way to go.
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thats his choice.. without going to a celeron the cheapest intel starts with the 2.2ghz E2200 for 70.00 for the box with fan but would probably suggest the E5200 2.5ghz wolfsdale at 72.99 with free shipping if you went the intel route
the thing with AMD for me is this .. i already know my upgrade path i dont have to buy a new board or memory .. for all you people with intel if you want a i7 you have to purchase a new board and memory (upwards to 500.00 to do that if not more) i can slap a Phenom II 940 on just about any AM2+ and it blow away just about anything not i7 . Intel you cant slap a i7 on your 775 boards unless its a X58 chipset
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Please refrain from using the dual-core AMD CPU's if you wish to play Aces High II.
Aces High II is natively multi-threaded and likes dual-core CPU's, but with the bug in the AMD dual core CPU's we happen to hit, your performance will suffer dramatically.
<snip>the thing with AMD for me is this .. i already know my upgrade path i dont have to buy a new board or memory .. for all you people with intel if you want a i7 you have to purchase a new board and memory (upwards to 500.00 to do that if not more) i can slap a Phenom II 940 on just about any AM2+ and it blow away just about anything not i7 . Intel you cant slap a i7 on your 775 boards unless its a X58 chipset
That very much depends on the application. A quad core Intel Core 2 CPU will outperform a Phenom II in many real world applications.
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is it perticular with a certain one? the brisbane core, windsor core, toliman core.
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All dual core AMD CPU's. AMD had a fix, but they are not going to release it. The tri-core and quad-core AMD CPU's are fine.
I would not touch a dual core AMD CPU with a ten foot pole. Our game is not the only application who runs into the bug.
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never had a issue but maybe i got lucky the 3 core tolimans are the same price as the dual core wolfdale E5200's
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Yes, but the E5200 will overclock to 3.6Ghz on air, quite easily, as it also has it multiplier unlocked. Best kept CPU secret of all time. I have a couple of them in various systems. Fun little CPU to play with.
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i was playing with my kuma BE and had it up to 3.2 but the stock fan is horrible a zoliman fan would give me better cooling on air. most people are OCing it to 3.6ghz with a better fan its all tit for tat though
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At the same clock rate, the E5200 will eat any dual-core AMD CPU up.
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well at stock speeds the 7750 (2.7) beats out the E5200 (2.5)
the 7750 is faster then the X2 6400 (3.1) too
remember the X2 7750 is a phenom core makes a huge difference
at OC speeds the E5200 (4ghz) will beat the 7750 (3.1ghz)
for some reason they only show 3.1ghz as the OC speed for the 7750 in the test.
i know lots of people hitting 3.5ghz so seems a little scewed IMHO. put another .4-.5 ghz on the 7750 and the 4ghz E5200 doesnt look that dominating.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2008/12/22/athlon-x2-7750-vs-intel-e5200-oc-review/4
but your right 1.5GHZ in overclockability isnt bad for 70.00 investment
where the 7750 is only like .8 ghz for 63.00 but still respectable