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Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: juzz on June 08, 2000, 07:22:00 AM
I figure the only way to have early war planes fighting in a competitive environment would be to have a seperate "early war arena".

What I want to know is; who would be interested in flying in such an arena often, and also, which planes should be in an "early war arena" ?

IMO...

The top end would be planes like the Bf 109E-4, P-40B, Yak-1, Spitfire Mk I etc.

Later fighters that were low on performance would be allowed too, eg: CA-12 Boomerang, FM-2 etc.

At the bottom end would be the biplane and early monoplane fighters, eg: CR.42, Gladiator, I-153, I-16, Ki-27, P-36, G.50 etc.
Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: RAM on June 08, 2000, 07:26:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by juzz:

The top end would be planes like the Bf 109E-4, P-40B, Yak-1, Spitfire Mk I etc.

Sorry since when is Yak-1 a early war plane?...it was introduced in late '41 and was in full swing in 1942...Just as the C205, for example...not so eary one. A russian early plane could be the MiG-3, the LaGG-3, or the I-16 and I-15 series...but not that Yak.

If as early plane you understand a 1939-1940 one...of course the Me-109E4, the best fighter of its time.

And a D-520 would be cool,too.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

[edit]Lets see how many time goes by before the Finnish lobby come here and start screaming....BREWSTER BUFFALO!!!!

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Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: popeye on June 08, 2000, 07:34:00 AM
P-40B and FM2??  You couldn't pry me out of that arena.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

popeye
Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: juzz on June 08, 2000, 07:39:00 AM
RAM:
 
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Yak-1 was in production during almost four years: from September 1940 until July 1944.
Just for that, you get downgraded to a Bf 109B!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)

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Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: RAM on June 08, 2000, 07:41:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by juzz:
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Yak-1 was in production during almost four years: from September 1940 until July 1944.
Just for that, you get downgraded to a Bf 109B! :P[/b]


LOL Juzz...yes production time was from 1940..but until 1942 wasnt in full swing. And very few Yak1s were present in Barbarossa...

SO I go up to the E4 again  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) eheheh
Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: juzz on June 08, 2000, 07:47:00 AM
Ahh, but you obviously didn't read this bit...
 
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Later fighters that were low on performance would be allowed too
So you go back to a Bf 109B again, but on the plus side you get a cool "shark's mouth" paintjob on your Messerschmitt.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: LLv34_Camouflage on June 08, 2000, 07:53:00 AM
<scream>BREWSTER BUFFALO!</scream>

And don't forget Fokker D.21, Fiat G.50, Morane Saulnier 406, Curtiss Hawk 75 or any other planes used on the finnish front.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Camo

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Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: LLv34_Camouflage on June 08, 2000, 07:54:00 AM
27 minutes - we have to do better next time  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: RAM on June 08, 2000, 08:13:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by LLv34_Camouflage:
27 minutes - we have to do better next time   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

LOL!

Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: RAM on June 08, 2000, 08:14:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by juzz:
Ahh, but you obviously didn't read this bit...
 
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Later fighters that were low on performance would be allowed too
So you go back to a Bf 109B again, but on the plus side you get a cool "shark's mouth" paintjob on your Messerschmitt.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)[/b]


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO A SHARK MOUTH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! PLZZZ PRETTY PLZZZZ

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ok ok, then Yak-1 is ok, too  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

(are I allowed to go back to my E4?...come on...pleaseee)..

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Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: Vermillion on June 08, 2000, 08:51:00 AM
wow... Thats not early war.

Thats early early early war.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

But not thanks. Not my style.

If it was built before 1942, I'm not really very interested.

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**MOL**, Men of Leisure
"Real Men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires"
Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: +vadr+ on June 08, 2000, 09:16:00 AM
I would love it.

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Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: pzvg on June 08, 2000, 09:23:00 AM
Hehehe... count me in (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Real men fly planes held together with baling wire (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: juzz on June 08, 2000, 09:33:00 AM
I guess you MUST be American Vermillion if 1942(?!!) is early war to you?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: gatt on June 08, 2000, 09:43:00 AM

RAM,
you mean the C.202, right? She became operational during mid-late 1941. Before that italian units used the C.200 (slightly better than the G.50), the G.50 and the biplane CR42.
The C.205 was delivered to fighting units during early-mid 1943 and fought till the end of the war.
Anyway, nice posting exercise but I'm afraid that early war is only a dream.
Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: RAM on June 08, 2000, 10:16:00 AM
Cc gatt was a typo. I meant C202 of course, the plane started its production run in 1941 and was in full swing in 1942...

(I suspect I have some kind of nerve problems with that C205...each time I see one I feel my nerves collapsing  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif))

Damned Asso di Bastoni  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)


heheheh
Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: bigred on June 08, 2000, 10:32:00 AM
my vote:

A5m "Claude"   earlywar opencockpit carrier based fighter WOOHOO!!!

-bigred
Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: Vermillion on June 08, 2000, 10:40:00 AM
Well... I am Mericun !! (hillbilly for American) And damn proud of it!!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

But no I consider 1942 to be "midwar", which was my point that I like midwar and later aircraft.

I usually think of "early war" as 1941 and earlier.

But when you start talking Bf109B's, Fokker's, and Curtis Hawks, your talking Spanish Civil War  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Not early war.

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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
"Real Men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires"
Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: JENG on June 08, 2000, 10:52:00 AM
I'll play  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Arado Ar68 (Germany)
Avia B-534 (Tsjechoslovakia)
Blériot-SPAD S.510 (France)
Bloch MB.151 (France)
Caudron C.714 Cyclone (France)
Curtiss P-36 (USA)
Dewoitine D.500 (France)
Fokker D.XXI (Holland)
Fokker G1 (Holland)
Gloster Gladiator (UK)
PZL P.24 (Poland)
Polikarpov I-15 I-16 (USSR)
Reggiane Re.2000 Falco 1 (Italy)
Macchi C.200 (Italy)
Saab J21 (Sweden)
Seversky P-35 (USA)

All planes never been done  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) All 1935-1940 planes. Not even mentioning the bombers, recon, jabo's, etc  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Looks like there are more early warplanes never been done then late/uberwarplanes never been done  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Bee out

PS: I want a RPS
Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: VISCONTI on June 08, 2000, 12:48:00 PM
Give us an early war arena or just these birds.

If an early arena will be added i will fly 75% of my time there.
I hope to have a full era planes in MA anyway.

PS: Asso di Bastoni salute you RAM  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: delta on June 08, 2000, 01:01:00 PM
FYI

I would frequent early war planes and arenas.

my $0.02

delta
Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: funked on June 08, 2000, 02:07:00 PM
Don't forget P.11C!!!
Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: funked on June 08, 2000, 02:09:00 PM
Seriously, I hope they finish the late-war set.  We are still sadly short of bombers and attack planes.
Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: juzz on June 08, 2000, 02:15:00 PM
I was thinking long-term, since I don't think HTC are going to add a RPS.

Hmmm... I got another thread idea now.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: nonoht on June 09, 2000, 04:45:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by JENG:
I'll play   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Dewoitine D.500 (France)

D500 ???   pffff   give us D520 !!!!    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: leonid on June 09, 2000, 05:52:00 AM
My choice would be I-16, the most numerous VVS fighter in 1941.  And yes, I would fly in such an arena.

BTW, for those interested, the most numerous/produced VVS fighters by year,------------------
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Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: ibreh on June 09, 2000, 07:19:00 AM
count me in, but plz think about the Bf 110-C tt, and maybe the He 111 and the Blenheim as buff.
Title: Vote 1 Early War!
Post by: combat23 on June 09, 2000, 06:56:00 PM
Hurricane and I will be there. Early war gets my vote. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/cool.gif)