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Title: Remove damage list
Post by: FiLtH on March 07, 2009, 05:08:09 PM
  Let a wingman look you over to tell you what looks damaged.
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: Chalenge on March 07, 2009, 05:26:50 PM
A wingman cant tell you if your guns are broken and as far as I have been able to tell only missing surfaces show up not bullet holes.
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: FYB on March 07, 2009, 07:05:26 PM
  Let a wingman look you over to tell you what looks damaged.
HTC won't take the damage display list away.
Just don't use it and bravo! Wish granted.

-FYB
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: Kweassa on March 07, 2009, 08:51:53 PM

Accurate damage assessment and quick judgement on one's own condition is also an important pilot skill. Since such indirect traits have never been too emphasized in AH upto date, implementing it into the game can certainly bring on an interesting, immersive factor into the game.

However, as a premise, it would require a significantly more advanced damage modelling in both the actual process of taking on damage, and visual/physical indicators of it. Meaning; more variety of damage situations, and more detailed, accurate portrayal of such damage so the pilot can notice the subtle signatures of each types of damage, and make his judgement on whether to keep on fighting, or return home.

So I support this idea - it's a good one. But it'd probably be only realized when AH makes another big leap in the general DM... so I don't see it happening in the close future. (Ofcourse, HT and Pyto have a bad habit of surprising people.. so who knows? Maybe such upgrades to the game are not so far away)



 
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: Chalenge on March 08, 2009, 12:56:09 AM
(Ofcourse, HT and Pyto have a good habit of surprising people.. so who knows? Maybe such upgrades to the game are not so far away)

Fixed.  :aok
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: Wingnutt on March 08, 2009, 12:57:56 AM
it would require a significantly more advanced damage modelling in both the actual process of taking on damage, and visual/physical indicators of it. Meaning; more variety of damage situations, and more detailed, accurate portrayal of such damage so the pilot can notice the subtle signatures of each types of damage, and make his judgement on whether to keep on fighting, or return home.


 

exactly, without the damage list I wouldn't know the bullet hole in my right wing means my left elevator is gone.
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: SectorNine50 on March 08, 2009, 10:41:38 AM
The damage model as it sits now is a little wacky, if you get a bullet hole in the right wing gun, your left wing gun stops firing. :confused:
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: SmokinLoon on March 08, 2009, 11:30:02 AM
The damage model as it sits now is a little wacky, if you get a bullet hole in the right wing gun, your left wing gun stops firing. :confused:

Just because you see a hole in your right wing doesnt mean damage to any structure (guns, gear, flaps, etc).  Likewise, you can have damage to something and not see anyholes.  Odd, I know. 
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: caldera on March 08, 2009, 12:28:49 PM
Maybe because the holes are underneath?  :noid
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: trigger2 on March 08, 2009, 02:32:33 PM
Maybe because the holes are underneath?  :noid

No, he brings up a good point, there are times where you get nailed and there isn't a hole ANYWHERE on your aircraft, othertimes you get hit in the rudder and get a PW...  :lol
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: SmokinLoon on March 08, 2009, 03:44:09 PM
No, he brings up a good point, there are times where you get nailed and there isn't a hole ANYWHERE on your aircraft, othertimes you get hit in the rudder and get a PW...  :lol

Exactly.  That one lucky round went right through the rudder, through the fuselage behind the cockpit, through the armor plating, and put a hole in your head.    :)

Now you have brain goop all over your canopy and you cant stay awake.  Bummer.     :frown:
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: AWwrgwy on March 08, 2009, 05:44:37 PM
Maybe because the holes are underneath?  :noid

There are no holes underneath.  As far as I can tell, damage showing isn't modeled to the underside.


wrongway
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: Ghosth on March 09, 2009, 06:58:49 AM
Question Filth, how does my knowing what parts are damaged hurt you?
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: waystin2 on March 09, 2009, 08:57:42 AM
Hello Filth,

I do not see a good reason to remove the damage list.  So I think it should stay as is.

Have a great day,

Way
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: SectorNine50 on March 09, 2009, 12:03:53 PM
Maybe because the holes are underneath?  :noid
Bullets should travel all the way through technically.  Although, I think I've seen "exit wounds" on my wings before... Big gaping holes where I can see internals, kind of cool! :P
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: Becinhu on March 09, 2009, 07:08:12 PM
Even better are when you get hits on your elevators (via film viewer) and get an oil hit. :noid
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: Scherf on March 09, 2009, 11:36:11 PM
Make it easy on yourself - fly a twin.

If you hear a loud clunk, you have a pilot wound. If you hear two loud clunks, you are on fire, and will soon be headed downwards.
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: frank3 on March 10, 2009, 06:52:30 AM
  Let a wingman look you over to tell you what looks damaged.

Would come in handy, for when you lose both wings and don't realize it!
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: Xasthur on March 10, 2009, 07:05:53 AM
I think this would be a bad idea.

As this is a computer game, we lack that extra dimension of 'feel'.

Taking hits on the right wing, for example, would be very noticeable no matter where you were actually looking (let's say, straight up at an enemy con who is firing down). These hits would be felt through the cockpit. You would feel cables snap and you would feel large chunks of landing gear and control surface fly off your aircraft.

None of this is available and short of readily noticeable loss of a wing tip, none of the current visual aspects of damage for other components can really give you the same 'feel'.

For this reason I think it would be a bad idea to remove the damage list.

Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: ShrkBite on March 10, 2009, 10:44:34 PM
"hey wingman!"
"Ya?"
"Your missing a wing....and ur also on fire!"
"oh darn! thats for telling me! i totally missed it!"
 :huh
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: AWwrgwy on March 10, 2009, 11:53:15 PM
"hey wingman!"
"Ya?"
"Your missing a wing....and ur also on fire!"
"oh darn! thats for telling me! i totally missed it!"
 :huh

"ur on fire" never shows up on my damage list.

ADD "ur on fire".

 :aok

wrongway
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: FYB on March 11, 2009, 12:40:36 AM
"ur on fire" never shows up on my damage list.

ADD "ur on fire".

 :aok

wrongway
Lets not forget "thats for telling me" did he knock the wind out of him for telling him "ur on fire"?  :lol
Yes i'm kind of high.  :D

-FYB
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: FiLtH on March 12, 2009, 10:36:45 PM
"hey wingman!"
"Ya?"
"Your missing a wing....and ur also on fire!"
"oh darn! thats for telling me! i totally missed it!"
 :huh




  Guess Im thinking of planes you cant see external or P51s. You guys need to fly more planes :)
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: Devonai on March 15, 2009, 09:42:00 AM
I think "OMG ur on fire" would be even better.
Title: Re: Remove damage list
Post by: SectorNine50 on March 15, 2009, 01:36:00 PM
I think "OMG ur on fire" would be even better.
Hahaha

Pilot
Radiator
OMG your on fire! :eek:
Main Fuel
Aux Fuel