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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: humble on March 07, 2009, 06:32:34 PM
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What a cesspool the DA has become. Bad enough that you have to deal with the offal at "furball lake" but when it reaches a point that those folks feel its perfectly appropriate to break in on actual duels away from that area I think its time to consider some options. 1st and foremost is repeated and intentional interruption of organized duels on the dueling fields an event that will trigger discipline from HTC (or ideally being booted from the DA for a period of time)?
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I wish there was a way to go back to the halcyon days of AH.
Unfortunately, that isn't going to happen.
All I can hope for now is they introduce some cool planes that I'd like to mess around in.
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There's only one real hope other than having sort of CM's babysitting the DA: Player hosted H2H rooms on HTC server
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There's only one real hope other than having sort of CM's babysitting the DA: Player hosted H2H rooms on HTC server
I hope that is their endgame. Seems like I saw someone from the company allude to that
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There is another option - get a load of good sticks together, go over and rampage their backsides lol......
Wurzel
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Bring H2H back! :furious...... :pray
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I had a few good fights in there yesterday. One great fight with Stokes until rudely interrupted by a CHog just blazing in and spraying 20 mills everywhere and into my plane. I left after that...
Off to a pretty place, where the flowers grow.
I'll be there in an hour or so... :rock
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There is another option - get a load of good sticks together, go over and rampage their backsides lol......
Wurzel
I fly mostly DA nowadays. But the rampant tardness is just that...rampant. Especially friday nights and any early evening. I wish more of the uber sticks would come to furball lake, Im by no means uber, in fact Im hoping to be mediocre by summer. If more good sticks came over, maybe we could get rid of the griefers or atleast reighn them in a bit. The horde of cats,hotard tempest pilots are for the most part new guys that dont know right from wrong and theres not alot of people trying to steer them in the right direction instead of just crying HO or tard or the usual verbage from the rest of us. It is tiresome, but not too terribly different from the MA in those regards. Faster action but faster grief. Good sticks come on over, and go Bish, hopefully we ll still be outnumbered.
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The lake are is what it is... take it or leave it. That said, action should be taken when it spills over into private duals.
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I honestly don't remember the DA being as it was Febuary of last year. Was it THAT bad then?
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The lake are is what it is... take it or leave it. That said, action should be taken when it spills over into private duals.
The new crop of players didn't just "take it or leave it" when they came to the old DA. They changed it.
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There's only one real hope other than having sort of CM's babysitting the DA: Player hosted H2H rooms on HTC server
yep. Do it HTC. Pleeeeease. I'll pay extra.
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Going to a pretty place where the flowers grow.
I'll be there in an hour or so... :rock
Earth calling! Pilot to Co-Pilot, looking for life on this planet sir. No sign of it!
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There is another option - get a load of good sticks together, go over and rampage their backsides lol......
Wurzel
Wurz he's referring to our SDL match. This guy upped and tried to ruin it.
As if furballing lake in itself isn't bad enough with that TA squad who don't even participate in the squad duelling league.. even though they're a so called DA squad... it's hilariously absurd.
They just like to gang n horde in furball area. Then we have those awesome tempest pilots (well they would never have enough perks for it in MA) who proudly go ahead and land their 3 picks n hos.. no intention of furballing.
Why should we take it or leave it Bronk, when we as a community have always effected the game. We are the game. It's an MMO.
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Earth calling! Pilot to Co-Pilot, looking for life on this planet sir. No sign of it!
All i could see is a bunch of smoke flyin, And I'm so -- that I might die if I go by it
:rock
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Why should we take it or leave it Bronk, when we as a community have always effected the game. We are the game. It's an MMO.
Furballs attract all types no matter what arena they are in. The lake area just magnifies it. As I said, the intrusions into arranged duels should be addressed.
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So not content with flying uber planes in the DA, they are intruding on SDL match's - that definitely needs to be addressed. Its not difficult to stay out of arranged fights.
Sheesh.
Wurzel
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The Aerofighters are yesterdays news...the REALLY best lake squad is quite obviously the 'Rowdy Ones'--(Nits) ---zoom out on dar....look near nit base...see 7-8 red dots around ONE friendly..THAT will be them :aok They've got it down to a science, their enTIRE squad concentrates on 1 plane at a time, then they move on. The people there (this squad no different than most others) BRAGS about the # of kills, and their k/d ratio. I brought the subject up more than once, and most of the folks there see no difference between kills from gangs-picks-ho's, and kills from fights. They REALLY don't see any difference :confused:
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If anyone sees me land a kill in the DA, you have my permission to banish me to a P-40B for a whole tour. Or maybe a Kate.
DA=Losers indeed.
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I'm with bronk on the furballs and the main problem being disturbing people's duels.
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to be honest I was amazed at the poor quality of pilots in the DA now
it was almost as bad as the average H2H pilots who never flew in the mains
I love to take F4F or Spit-1 and school the tempest and F4U4 kids in the lake
and I don't proclaim to be a great pilot by no means
but they odd just throw all those DA lake people into the Mid-war arena and let them get a quick dose of skill the hard way
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I love to take F4F or Spit-1 and school the tempest and F4U4 kids in the lake
Like this? (http://dasmuppets.com/public/moot/ACMexamples/film328_0207.ahf) :lol
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lol yes like that
but that was a good shot, way better then me
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most of the folks there see no difference between kills from gangs-picks-ho's, and kills from fights. They REALLY don't see any difference
Heh.
....er...I wonder how they feel about vulched kills...?
- oldman
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I imagine they'd take the position that if they are 'good' enough to get into the ack, vulch, and get back out of the ack... then they earned that kill fair and square.
I could be wrong.
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I had a few good fights in there yesterday. One great fight with Stokes until rudely interrupted by a CHog just blazing in and spraying 20 mills everywhere and into my plane. I left after that...
I'll be there in an hour or so... :rock
Why thank you <S>.
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very few of the people responsible will ever read this thread.
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I was at DA lake last week and seen a high 38. Can't remember his name but he was quite skilled. I knew he wasn't the usual crowd right away as he did not go for the ho shot on our merges. It was quite a pleasant surprise to fight someone like that. Need 100 more just like him. :salute
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I could name several people who are not known for having rampant egos, are known for having patience and civility, and are in the DA often.
That place needs CMs.
HiTech, if you don't believe me... Consider this: a few years ago, if you complained about wanting a good duel, you were told to go to the DA. Today, we complained about the same thing, and were told to go to the Special Events Arena :mad:
That's not right.
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I could name several people who are not known for having rampant egos, are known for having patience and civility, and are in the DA often.
That place needs CMs.
HiTech, if you don't believe me... Consider this: a few years ago, if you complained about wanting a good duel, you were told to go to the DA. Today, we complained about the same thing, and were told to go to the Special Events Arena :mad:
That's not right.
okllok
Me
Hombre
klipler
and most other people
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okllok
Me
Hombre
klipler
and most other people
Hombre is absolutely on my list. Wonderful guy with the patience of Job. He'd be an excellent DA CM, if willing.
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Me
Not when you're on vox with me and you die
:lol
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Ironically enough (and I'm not implying anything), that's Hombre BNZing my zero in the film! :lol
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Disagree with Hombre, same as all the others. Waits and cherry picks while you are engaged with another. If you are talking about having eviction powers, well, if he follows rules so be it, someone needs to clean the stink pile, why not those who play in it the most?
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I would rather have hombre here than any of you trained parrots and broken records..
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trained parrots and broken records.. You are so high on that horse you cant even see the road anymore.
Cura te ipsum
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i edited that before i saw the reply, thought better after a few seconds.
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Like in an RTS, you join a game and pick the scenerio. People join.
Would be nice to have 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, etc type 'rooms' to setup and join up.
Choice of planes could be set by the room starter including loadouts etc.
Just a thought. Hey I would be there as much as the MA I think. The DA is kinda lame.
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we have made use of tilt, to host a duel in the SEA arena, when it doesn't conflict with any other special events.
If we had a little more notice he can sort it but he is a busy guy. The griefer in question didn't actually interrupt a fight but he didn't respond to any calls from 71st to stay the F out and I intercepted him, shot him up then he promptly disco/augureud into the ground and didn't return.
Lusche is right it either needs more CM's to host or H2H arenas back for subscribers only. Maybe even go as far as saying you need to have had a years worth of continued subscription to host.
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I like "Murdr's Solution" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,244440.0.html)best
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I don't frequent the DA. I went in there the other day to watch a couple duels. Afterward, my buddy and I were messing around, and we discovered that external views are ENABLED in the DA. WTF is that all about?? I started a thread about it, but its worth mentioning again. Since when did the DA become Secret Weapons over Normandy on the PS3?? Please, someone fix this. The DA is not a training arena, even though it may seem like it at times.
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BigR i agree 110%.
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always sometthing to whine about.
if everything was perfect we would still have someone whining about something. Daaaaam im a hypocrit.
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I agree that Murdr's solution seems to make far too much sense.
And yes, I'd pay extra for that capability.
The extra server(s) would be cheap in the big picture, and most of the coad should already exist with 8 player.
Of course, you guys understand that if implemented, some bozo will figure out a way to ruin for everyone else (again.)
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Disagree with Hombre, same as all the others. Waits and cherry picks while you are engaged with another. If you are talking about having eviction powers, well, if he follows rules so be it, someone needs to clean the stink pile, why not those who play in it the most?
What does that have to do with anything?? I've known Hombre a long time and I've never seen him flip out or complain very level headed guy the last thing you need is some ranting ego in charge. BnZing and picking your not going to get rid of that and people pay their money to play the way they want thats just a fact. I'd rather see people kicked for some of the garbage on 200 which is a clear violation of the rules, and in the DA theres plenty of that needs sorting.
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What does that have to do with anything?? I've known Hombre a long time and I've never seen him flip out or complain very level headed guy the last thing you need is some ranting ego in charge. BnZing and picking your not going to get rid of that and people pay their money to play the way they want thats just a fact. I'd rather see people kicked for some of the garbage on 200 which is a clear violation of the rules, and in the DA theres plenty of that needs sorting.
If you are talking about having eviction powers, well, if he follows rules so be it, someone needs to clean the stink pile, why not those who play in it the most?
Since it has nothing to do with it why didn't this part of the statement nullify your need to stick up for your friend, sir? I did not attack him, I supported his nomination for CM based on the qualification of his personal conduct and time in the arena; however, I differed with the person nominating him as he made it sound as if Hombre's style of play differed from the rest of the DA. If I implied he lacked integrity, you have my apologies, twas not my intent.
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okllok
Are you kidding? Employ his fighting style against him and he cries bloody murder.
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Since it has nothing to do with it why didn't this part of the statement nullify your need to stick up for your friend, sir? I did not attack him, I supported his nomination for CM based on the qualification of his personal conduct and time in the arena; however, I differed with the person nominating him as he made it sound as if Hombre's style of play differed from the rest of the DA. If I implied he lacked integrity, you have my apologies, twas not my intent.
Whoops sorry mate I was just skimming through this I have misunderstood my apologies.
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DA = High School PEP Rally.......................W aist of time especially with externals on.
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Bring H2H back imo. :aok
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How about a .report type function only for the DA and only away from furball lake that only takes 2 reports then boots the person from the DA for an hour or two? Don't know how you'd code that but it would solve the problem after the first incursion.
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How about a .report type function only for the DA and only away from furball lake that only takes 2 reports then boots the person from the DA for an hour or two? Don't know how you'd code that but it would solve the problem after the first incursion.
Needs to be way more then two reports, I see people kicking each other for lols if that was the case.
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How about this... keep "furball lake" as a furball area. 1 vs 1 duals and organized duels keep to the barron areas between the fields? That should keep the majority of the duel interruptions to a minimum I would think. There is plenty of unused airspace there for several 1 vs 1 duels between bases over the land. Keep the "furball hordes" out in the middle of the lake. Just my opinion. :salute
A8Chewey
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Needs to be way more then two reports, I see people kicking each other for lols if that was the case.
OK, then include furball lake and make it like ten reports in a week or something and they are booted from the DA for a week. Otherwise I guess you could always e-mail Skuzzy to take action.
Here's another idea I just had. How about when you log into the DA you register as combatants. So only those registered to your "group" are validated as combatants. Anyone else who trys to interfere gets pingshot or booted. Not sure how to deal with furball lake on this one but I bet there's a way.
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Are you kidding? Employ his fighting style against him and he cries bloody murder.
I think it's excellent that Okllok is a DA regular, and I think he'd make a superb staffer for that arena.
- oldman
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I think it's excellent that Okllok is a DA regular, and I think he'd make a superb staffer for that arena.
- oldman
:rofl That happy to see him out of the AVA ehh?
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Disagree with Hombre, same as all the others. Waits and cherry picks while you are engaged with another. If you are talking about having eviction powers, well, if he follows rules so be it, someone needs to clean the stink pile, why not those who play in it the most?
A DA CM would have absolutely no power to do anything to anyone flying furball lake, mouthing off, or anything of that like. They'd only be there to ensure regular 1v1's or squad duel's on a semi-private field are not interrupted.
It doesn't matter one bit what their flying style is...
People that like good fights are called crybabies in the MA. We're told to go to the DA, and they have a point. But when we go there to a private field, and we still have to deal with people interrupting, we're told we have to go to the SEA? That is NOT right.
So the "big solution" is to have new servers for H2H? Another exodus? Well, that's great and all... And works for me... But think of the long-term effects on gameplay, player development, and community when a group of good sticks decides they shouldn't bother going anywhere else but the new H2H. What happens, after a few months, when we figure out when to go there, and find we've found a place where we can maximize our bang for the buck?
Yeah, it'll get rid of some mouths... But it'll get rid of some minds too.
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Nothing but good would come from bringing H2H back.
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Stupid question but why even bother going to the DA if you feel u must duel someone for fun or pride? Why not just choose a remote couple of fields in the MA and duke it out 1 vs 1? It seems to me that logging to change the arena just to fight 1 vs 1 is a waste of time. Make it count anyway and just stay in the MA. won't have to worry abouts noobs in Tempys either :)
LTARogue
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Stupid question but why even bother going to the DA if you feel u must duel someone for fun or pride? Why not just choose a remote couple of fields in the MA and duke it out 1 vs 1? It seems to me that logging to change the arena just to fight 1 vs 1 is a waste of time. Make it count anyway and just stay in the MA. won't have to worry abouts noobs in Tempys either :)
LTARogue
SEE, HiTech! :(
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What about the SDL matches - everyone would see the dar in the MA, and up to defend/attack.
Wurzel
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Almost needs some kind of a script that only allows you to up from reserved fields if you have a match.
Be it one vs one, or a SDL 10 vs 10.
Anyone trying to up as a griefer would stay locked in the tower. And could only up from furball lake or the TT area.
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. . . . but they odd just throw all those DA lake people into the Mid-war arena and let them get a quick dose of skill the hard way
They'd fit better in Orange.
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What a cesspool the DA has become.
You know its funny, those were the *exact* words that came out of my mouth when I was in there last week.
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I'm sure that its just a subset of the population, but a significant bunch operates under the theory of its an open arena and I can do whatever I want. While "the lake" is a free for all zone, that attitude spreads to all the other fields as well at times.
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Need some sort of command like
.duel <playername> which could be additive (i.e. 4 v 4 duels, etc.
.duel player1
.duel player2
would allow you to fight these two players and no one else. Those two players would have to ".duel" you as well.
Anyone who came and shot you without dueling privileges would be killshot.
To avoid abuse (two players on same squad using this, then running around impervious to everyone else's bullets), you would not be allowed to shoot down any other players, either. You would also be kill shot for this.
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I'm kinda foggy on this, but I remember in the old game <AW> we had a "Duel Mode"? that 2 people or 2 squads entered into .....then no 1 else around could see you or did'nt see your dot/icon? A feature like that might be nice.
So and so challenges to a duel and you could accept or/not something like that? We did it right on the main fields in FR.
Any else remember that?
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I'm kinda foggy on this, but I remember in the old game <AW> we had a "Duel Mode"? that 2 people or 2 squads entered into .....then no 1 else around could see you or did'nt see your dot/icon? A feature like that might be nice.
So and so challenges to a duel and you could accept or/not something like that? We did it right on the main fields in FR.
Any else remember that?
I remember that, at least the 1v1 part. I didn't know you could do the squad v squad thing.
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Need some sort of command like
.duel <playername> which could be additive (i.e. 4 v 4 duels, etc.
.duel player1
.duel player2
would allow you to fight these two players and no one else. Those two players would have to ".duel" you as well.
Anyone who came and shot you without dueling privileges would be killshot.
To avoid abuse (two players on same squad using this, then running around impervious to everyone else's bullets), you would not be allowed to shoot down any other players, either. You would also be kill shot for this.
could also have
.duel squadname1
.duel squadname2
would make it easier and the entire squad could join the fun
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I remember that, at least the 1v1 part. I didn't know you could do the squad v squad thing.
Yes... I think you could have up to 4 folks on each side. So a 4 on 4 sqd match.
I just remember when in dual mode others didnt see you or couldnt mess with ya ?
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I like "Murdr's Solution" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,244440.0.html)best
Click the link in the quote to see a wishlist topic about duel mode.
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.inviteH2H name
:P
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There's only one real hope other than having sort of CM's babysitting the DA: Player hosted H2H rooms on HTC server
They would end up being very busy managing that place.
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I wish there was a way to go back to the halcyon days of AH.
Unfortunately, that isn't going to happen.
All I can hope for now is they introduce some cool planes that I'd like to mess around in.
this is what I expected when they ditched h2h. all the little twit Aces Halo... errum High warriors jumping on line to further ruin the game.
Whats sad is the fact that its really just that now. Halo High... Aces Halo...Can I coin those terms?
Anyhow, I love the game for the good friends I've met. If I hadn't met them, I would have been gone a looooong time ago.
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Bring H2H back!!!
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They can have furball lake the way it is its the griefing of everything else they do.
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So not content with flying uber planes in the DA, they are intruding on SDL match's - that definitely needs to be addressed. Its not difficult to stay out of arranged fights.
Sheesh.
Wurzel
Dear Mr. Wurzel
I occasionally take the squad to DA for squad training night.
No matter what we request on open channel, morons of all shapes and sizes show up and we end up wasting training time on erasing their planes from the sky than actual training some times.
Outside of actual chaperones with booting capabilities to police it....ya cant cure stupid.
BTW: :salute and please hug the missus for us :aok
ROX