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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: captain1ma on March 10, 2009, 07:24:45 AM
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the AVA has been pretty fun the last few days with alot of new comers. unfortunately they bring with them the MA tactics. we're trying to get them to understand that better fights come 1 on 1 rather then 3 and 4 on 1. other then that, we've had more people in there then the early war.
side balancing is working out good, no complaints so far. its been a good time. come in check it out. try to understand that we try to be a bit more civilized in the AVA then in other arena's (please keep laughter to a minimum).
the planeset is pretty well matched and its been a blast, keep up the fun and check it out if you have a chance.
<S> to all
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the AVA has been pretty fun the last few days with alot of new comers. unfortunately they bring with them the MA tactics. we're trying to get them to understand that better fights come 1 on 1 rather then 3 and 4 on 1. other then that, we've had more people in there then the early war.
News Flash: the last couple times I was in the AvA you guys were ganging and running away with the best of them, in La-7s. Larry was complaining that people were not respecting his 1vs1 fights, right in the middle of a furball, while batfinkv was getting cherry picked by guys in your squad.
Here's the deal: if you want the numbers in the AvA that will make it a viable arena, then there are going to be furballs, and people are going to get ganged and picked... and that's ok, but please spare us the rhetoric. 1vs1 fights can remain distinct when there are less than 10 people in the arena, but more than that, and it becomes a furball. A furball is what people want because furballs are fun. The 1vs1 ethos only makes sense when there are few players because any side imbalance become magnified, e.g. 3:2 is far worse odds than 9:10.
Lastly, the AvA does not belong to you and you do not have the right to tell people how to play there (unless someone is breaking rules established by the CM's, i.e. in BoA). I remember Savlan and Dawger were there one night, two very good pilots, and I doubt they've come back because they were verbally harassed on 200 every 15 minutes when they weren't flying on the deck at 200mph spinning luftberries, and were using wingman tactics (oh the horror). The day we no longer have self-appointed curators for the AvA will be the day when we have 60 people there on a Wednesday night, and I don't need to point what the circumstances were the last time that happened.
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Lastly, the AvA does not belong to you and you do not have the right to tell people how to play there (unless someone is breaking rules established by the CM's, i.e. in BoA). I remember Savlan and Dawger were there one night, two very good pilots, and I doubt they've come back because they were verbally harassed on 200 every 15 minutes when they weren't flying on the deck at 200mph spinning luftberries, and were using wingman tactics (oh the horror). The day we no longer have self-appointed curators for the AvA will be the day when we have 60 people there on a Wednesday night, and I don't need to point what the circumstances were the last time that happened.
Now this thing with savlan and dawger is a different story. I would really not like to discuss it either
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Lastly, the AvA does not belong to you and you do not have the right to tell people how to play there (unless someone is breaking rules established by the CM's, i.e. in BoA). I remember Savlan and Dawger were there one night, two very good pilots, and I doubt they've come back because they were verbally harassed on 200 every 15 minutes when they weren't flying on the deck at 200mph spinning luftberries, and were using wingman tactics (oh the horror). The day we no longer have self-appointed curators for the AvA will be the day when we have 60 people there on a Wednesday night, and I don't need to point what the circumstances were the last time that happened.
I saw nothing in Jaegers post that warranted this type of response.
You know, sometimes a cigar really is just a cigar.
Before you voice a negative opinion, come in and see for yourself see what is happening in the AVA lately. You may be pleasantly surprised.
cheers,
RTR
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News Flash: the last couple times I was in the AvA you guys were ganging and running away with the best of them, in La-7s. Larry was complaining that people were not respecting his 1vs1 fights, right in the middle of a furball, while batfinkv was getting cherry picked by guys in your squad.
Okay KrustyJr, you might want to get the facts straight before going on about something. First off, so what if some of us were in LA7s. They were enabled in that setup so is there something wrong with that? I didn't complain once. I told you and batfink if you see me fighting someone not to come in because I didn't need your help ATFER both of you came in and picked 1v1s I was in, and they were a few K from the furball not "right in the middle" of them. What I saw most of that night was you, batfink, and one other guy always coming in at least 5k above the fight picking already engaged enemy.
Here's the deal: if you want the numbers in the AvA that will make it a viable arena, then there are going to be furballs, and people are going to get ganged and picked... and that's ok, but please spare us the rhetoric. 1vs1 fights can remain distinct when there are less than 10 people in the arena, but more than that, and it becomes a furball. A furball is what people want because furballs are fun. The 1vs1 ethos only makes sense when there are few players because any side imbalance become magnified, e.g. 3:2 is far worse odds than 9:10.
I don't want numbers because of the furballs that makes. I don't think furballs are "fun", and if I wanted to be in one Id go to the LWs. I like when there are low numbers because then the fight are civil and you don't have to worry about a "gavagai" type person coming in at light speed trying to pick fight because that's all they know how to do.
Lastly, the AvA does not belong to you and you do not have the right to tell people how to play there (unless someone is breaking rules established by the CM's, i.e. in BoA). I remember Savlan and Dawger were there one night, two very good pilots, and I doubt they've come back because they were verbally harassed on 200 every 15 minutes when they weren't flying on the deck at 200mph spinning luftberries, and were using wingman tactics (oh the horror). The day we no longer have self-appointed curators for the AvA will be the day when we have 60 people there on a Wednesday night, and I don't need to point what the circumstances were the last time that happened.
No the AvA doesn't belong to us, but we are titled an opinion no matter what you may think of it. I remember dawger to. He was a very crappy cartoon pilot who only came in at 15-25k and B&Zed until he lost all alt then ran.
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The day we no longer have self-appointed curators for the AvA will be the day when we have 60 people there on a Wednesday night
Actually, people have been squelching their opinions pretty well over the past week or so. Channel 200 chatter has been reduced, and very polite. We've seen new folks poking their heads in, and they aren't getting chased out. Hey, I have film to prove it.
Most of us (looks sideways at Larry) would like to see better numbers in AvA. We've had big numbers when new ideas were hatched, but those numbers drain off after awhile. For all their warts and scabs, the fact is that the JG54 people have generally stuck with the arena for years when others have not. Since the La7 v Nik setup they have been trying very hard, and I think quite successfully, to muzzle the negative waves. Jaeger's post, above, is a good example of this.
Stop back and see for yourself!
- oldman
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Most of us (looks sideways at Larry) would like to see better numbers in AvA.
Looking over my previous post I really didn't mean "I don't want number". They way I see it big numbers can be good or bad for gameplay. When I ran the weekly missions that brought in what I call 'good numbers'. Most of the arena was involved in it and each side had its little 'objective'. When both sides ran into each other everyone had fun trying to complete those 'objectives'. Now on the other hand there can be what I call 'bad numbers'. That's when both sides have nothing to do so they furball between two bases and in turns into a pick and gangfest until one side beats the other side to their base and then the vulching begins. All that does is makes the new guys think that's that happens every day and when the whole "mini MA" thing starts. That's the reason I have been against the past ''wars'' because that's all they brought. If you can find a way to bring in numbers but spread them out over the arena and get them to respect that some don't like to have their fights interrupted then Ill be all for it.
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lol .. and the song remains the same ...
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News Flash: the last couple times I was in the AvA you guys were ganging and running away with the best of them, in La-7s. Larry was complaining that people were not respecting his 1vs1 fights, right in the middle of a furball, while batfinkv was getting cherry picked by guys in your squad.
Here's the deal: if you want the numbers in the AvA that will make it a viable arena, then there are going to be furballs, and people are going to get ganged and picked... and that's ok, but please spare us the rhetoric. 1vs1 fights can remain distinct when there are less than 10 people in the arena, but more than that, and it becomes a furball. A furball is what people want because furballs are fun. The 1vs1 ethos only makes sense when there are few players because any side imbalance become magnified, e.g. 3:2 is far worse odds than 9:10.
Lastly, the AvA does not belong to you and you do not have the right to tell people how to play there (unless someone is breaking rules established by the CM's, i.e. in BoA). I remember Savlan and Dawger were there one night, two very good pilots, and I doubt they've come back because they were verbally harassed on 200 every 15 minutes when they weren't flying on the deck at 200mph spinning luftberries, and were using wingman tactics (oh the horror). The day we no longer have self-appointed curators for the AvA will be the day when we have 60 people there on a Wednesday night, and I don't need to point what the circumstances were the last time that happened.
try reading the MOTD sometime. im pretty sure is says "civil behavior is requested and Required for this Arena"
thanks and have a great day. :)
PS I LOVE YOU TOO!! :D
P.S.S maybe you and your gang would like to take us on in a Squad V Squad. let us know! thats if you have the intestinal fortitude :noid
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lol .. and the song remains the same ...
yup... :(
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lol .. and the song remains the same ...
Pot-kettle-black
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Hey it's nice just to see some posting going on in the AvA forums, place has been so dusty lately with inactivity.
We definitely need some new blood in the AvA. People without axes to grind. The AvA is the only place where you can fly historical rides in historical matches, and just have fun. No red tape. Hopefully Fudgums idea will get a few good eggs.
Hey, that's what we need, a recruitment poster!
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i nominate gavagai to write it, he has a way with words!! and a very encouraging demeanor!
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Hey it's nice just to see some posting going on in the AvA forums, place has been so dusty lately with inactivity.
We definitely need some new blood in the AvA. People without axes to grind. The AvA is the only place where you can fly historical rides in historical matches, and just have fun. No red tape. Hopefully Fudgums idea will get a few good eggs.
Hey, that's what we need, a recruitment poster!
Two semi done write ups are sort of done but not really. :lol
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originally posted by Larry:
I remember dawger to. He was a very crappy cartoon pilot who only came in at 15-25k and B&Zed until he lost all alt then ran.
BS...Dawger is a career pilot in real life. In the sim world he's set up and run historical arenas and large scale events. He's been a trainer for years who's helped a multitude of people improve their game play. He's written training manuals and ran the WB's on-line academy. Salvan was a WB's trainer and CO of 475th, a squad held in high regard in the flight sim community. Then there's The Avengers. At any rate a lot of quality players new to AH have tried the AvA over the short time I've been here, none of them have stayed and many of the old diehards don't get it and don't care.
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and the sun just shines brighter and brighter! :)
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originally posted by Larry:
BS...Dawger is a career pilot in real life. In the sim world he's set up and run historical arenas and large scale events. He's been a trainer for years who's helped a multitude of people improve their game play. He's written training manuals and ran the WB's on-line academy. Salvan was a WB's trainer and CO of 475th, a squad held in high regard in the flight sim community. Then there's The Avengers. At any rate a lot of quality players new to AH have tried the AvA over the short time I've been here, none of them have stayed and many of the old diehards don't get it and don't care.
I don't care what dawger does in RL or what he did in WB. The few fights I had with him he always came in at 15K+ which gave him more the 10k alt advantage over me then proceded to dive in, over shoot, and climb back up. These "attacks" lasted until I ran out of fuel, patience, or he ran outta luck. I don't know nor ever heard of salvan so I wont comment on him. As for the avengers, they are a bunch of no skill dweebs who are only good at bombing radar so everyone cant find a fight. Iv fought them many time when they had the numbers and alt only to come out laughing at them. One night stands out the most. That was when when tbar and I stopped six or so avengers from taking a base for over 45mins. Afterwards there were a few "cheater" comments here and in the game, and that was the last time I saw them in mass in the AvA.
Good to see all these KrustyJrs in here maybe one day they'll set foot in the arena.
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I still think that the 49ths and JG54 arguements were alot better though
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I don't care what dawger does in RL or what he did in WB. The few fights I had with him……
That’s a big part of the problem. You make snap judgements about other players then flame ‘em on the BBS when in fact you know practically nothing about them. Don’t know and don’t care.
he always came in at 15K+ which gave him more the 10k alt advantage over me then proceded to dive in, over shoot, and climb back up.
There are lots of good sticks out there who’ll do more than just try to out turn you on the deck.
As for the avengers, they are a bunch of no skill dweebs…..
I’ve known these guys longer than you have and I’ll be the first to admit they're no saints, but they are definately not “a bunch of no skill dweebs”.
Good to see all these KrustyJrs in here maybe one day they'll set foot in the arena.
I flew with Krusty in several FSO’s last year and he’s a good stick and a decent guy. So your KrustyJr comment doesn’t bother me. As for setting foot in the arena, I’ve been flying Spit's and Hurri’s in the Battle of France set up. The week before that I was flying P-40’s in Tunisia. Even had a fight against you. So setting foot in the arena really isn’t an issue for me.
At any rate, this horse is dead Larry. If you want to continue to beat up on it, go right ahead.
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That’s a big part of the problem. You make snap judgements about other players then flame ‘em on the BBS when in fact you know practically nothing about them. Don’t know and don’t care.
I know that dawger has little to no skill. Its not really flaming when its true. You want to show me you have skill at this game then come down and fight. Don't fly around like you don't have a pair
There are lots of good sticks out there who’ll do more than just try to out turn you on the deck.
There are alot more good sticks that know the only way you get good is to fight and not just B&Z the whole time
I’ve known these guys longer than you have and I’ll be the first to admit they're no saints, but they are definately not “a bunch of no skill dweebs”.
Then you really don't know them. All they do is pork, horde, then cry cheat when they die.
I flew with Krusty in several FSO’s last year and he’s a good stick and a decent guy. So your KrustyJr comment doesn’t bother me. As for setting foot in the arena, I’ve been flying Spit's and Hurri’s in the Battle of France set up. The week before that I was flying P-40’s in Tunisia. Even had a fight against you. So setting foot in the arena really isn’t an issue for me.
At any rate, this horse is dead Larry. If you want to continue to beat up on it, go right ahead.
Seems you don't know his history with the AVA and its BBS. He flies in the AvA about twice a year yet always has something bad to say about it just like some in this thread
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News Flash: the last couple times I was in the AvA you guys were ganging and running away with the best of them, in La-7s. Larry was complaining that people were not respecting his 1vs1 fights, right in the middle of a furball, while batfinkv was getting cherry picked by guys in your squad.
Here's the deal: if you want the numbers in the AvA that will make it a viable arena, then there are going to be furballs, and people are going to get ganged and picked... and that's ok, but please spare us the rhetoric. 1vs1 fights can remain distinct when there are less than 10 people in the arena, but more than that, and it becomes a furball. A furball is what people want because furballs are fun. The 1vs1 ethos only makes sense when there are few players because any side imbalance become magnified, e.g. 3:2 is far worse odds than 9:10.
Lastly, the AvA does not belong to you and you do not have the right to tell people how to play there (unless someone is breaking rules established by the CM's, i.e. in BoA). I remember Savlan and Dawger were there one night, two very good pilots, and I doubt they've come back because they were verbally harassed on 200 every 15 minutes when they weren't flying on the deck at 200mph spinning luftberries, and were using wingman tactics (oh the horror). The day we no longer have self-appointed curators for the AvA will be the day when we have 60 people there on a Wednesday night, and I don't need to point what the circumstances were the last time that happened.
I would suspect that it would be a Tuesday night because of T.T., but I digress................
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I would suspect that it would be a Tuesday night because of T.T., but I digress................
And speaking of who the dog dragged in....where have you been, young man?
- oldman
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Busy......
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Hey it's nice just to see some posting going on in the AvA forums, place has been so dusty lately with inactivity.
We definitely need some new blood in the AvA. People without axes to grind. The AvA is the only place where you can fly historical rides in historical matches, and just have fun. No red tape. Hopefully Fudgums idea will get a few good eggs.
Hey, that's what we need, a recruitment poster!
:aok Right you are!!!
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lol .. and the song remains the same ...
:D Hi Oldman and Eagler, long time no see. I ain't been on much lately. Just looking around today to see whats going on.
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:D Hi Oldman and Eagler, long time no see. I ain't been on much lately. Just looking around today to see whats going on.
Dude!
Well...why not stop in and see?
- oldman
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So party at VonMessa house? Anyone?
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Oldman, do any of the response look familiar? It's funny since our conversation that everything I have mention to you is in this POST.
Since Aces I the CT and the AVA have been my favorite arena's and yes I end up in the Mid war arena when the AVA is empty.
I am puzzled on why any one would want a scenario that would limit people flying in the AVA? (The career pilot thing.)
Maybe it is time the High Tech pulls the plug on the AVA.
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Saw this link in a general forum post.
So you've been enjoying my absence? Enjoying slamming somebody (apparently repeatedly?) for being driven off?
When I do come in here there are problems and issues with the gameplay. The same few people in charge have been running the AvA as a private playground (with group collaboration/control by the small minority of regular players in there).
And any time I express my valid opinion that doesn't kiss butt to the people setting things up, they lash out, attack verbally, and I frankly don't want any of this shyte, so I stop coming here. Then after a while I delude myself into coming back, maybe have a little fun, maybe not, but the same old shyte and the same old shyte-throwers are always here, so I go away again. I leave you to self-implode in your own sandbox. You can have it, if you're going to act this way!
Your trashing me and name calling while I'm not even here (driven off by this VERY attitude) won't stop. Maybe you'll trash somebody else? The point is you never stop trashing folks. Unless they follow what you minority-of-regulars want, you just keep pulling the same things over and over.
So once again I pop in, state my VALID OPINION and have been trashed (before even posting!). I'll check back in next time something interesting happens in the AvA forums (maybe never) that's worth the risk of being trashed in absentia.
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Looks like you are here and since you aren't PNGed I knew you would see this eventually. All of your 'valid opinions' are whines and that's not suprising coming from a cry baby. Each time you come into the arena you cry about something and then usually come in here and cry about it a month or two later. One such exampal was when we did a B26 bomber raid. That whole night you were crying that we were to fast for the Italian and German fighters to catch when in fact we were on 'max cruise' the whole time we were leveled out. Even after telling you this a few times you didn't want to believe us and continued the crying.
To have an opinion of the arena most would actually fly the damn thing more then two or three times a year, but that's not your way. You go in there one night and base all your 'opinions' on that one night thinking that its like that all the time.