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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Critter on June 12, 2000, 06:20:00 AM
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I know there's some that are askin for the gigant which seems like a really cool idea. Then there's me... I want the catalina, then there's the p47 lobby which is another great idea then the lanc. then... well.. you get the point
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no i just want :
1) HS129
2) IL2
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Any of the below
SV-2
SBC2
Ju-87G
B-24J
Lanc
P-61A or C
Gabreski's P-47D, or the "Tarheel Hal" scheme P-47D
Ju-88C
A Sunderland Mk.III
Fw-190D
Me410
and...
T-6 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
- Jig
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Brewster Buffalo
//fats
[This message has been edited by fats (edited 06-12-2000).]
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G.55 "Centauro" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
(http://web.tiscalinet.it/gatt/G.55.jpg)
[This message has been edited by gatt (edited 06-12-2000).]
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In the order that they should be introduced:
* = in the pipeline already
Fw 190A-5*
Yak-9U*
Lancaster*
Ju-88*
G4M
Tu-2
A-26B
Mosquito FB Mk VI
Hs 129
Fw 190G-8
Il-10
Ki-102b
Spitfire Mk. XIV
Fw 190D-9
La-7
Ki-84
[This message has been edited by funked (edited 06-12-2000).]
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P-47D
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If we get another US fighter in the next 6 months, I'm gonna puke. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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FW190D9
P47D
F6F5
Tempest
Ki84
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Sturm Crows
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Funked, Do you mean the Mosquito B.XVI(400mph+ bomber, 1200 built) or the FB.XVII(57mm cannon, 25 built)? There is no FB.XVI.
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doh, fixed typo
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After the upcoming fighters in the next build, I really think they should get:
1.) Ju-88
2.) Lancaster
3.) Ki-44 Shoki (Ki-84 will be a perk plane)
4.) P-47D Razorback (The razorback over the Bubble canopy D just because it looks so cool!...If it was good enough for Gabby it is good enough for us.)
I know, the last one is another US fighter, but c'mon...it's the Thunderbolt! I figure the Hellcat can wait for when HTC gets the time to add carriers.
(http://www.devildogs.com/vmf111/sdsig2.gif)
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Polikarpov I-16 (sorry Pyro :-).
Hi Fats, btw, haven't seen you in ages.
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Rickenbacker
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Kawasaki Ki-61-II Kai, late-war high altitude variant of the Hien, only 99 were built. It had a top speed of 379 MPH at 19k and climb to 16,405 feet in 6 minutes.
J2M5 Raiden 'Jack'
Also a late-war variant, top speed of 382 MPH at 22k, the MK4U-4 Kasei 26a engine it was equipped with also had a three-stage supercharger.
Ki-84 shouldn't be a perk plane... it is equivalent to the Spit IX.
190 D12, 2x MG151/20 and 1 Mk 108, sweet plane.
And the Me 410.
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In preferred order:
190D9
P47D
F6F
Ju87
Bf110
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Me323 'Gigant', and allow it to carry one panzer or one M16 half-track.
Then get rid of vehicles spawning miles from their bases.
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A-26. you just gotta love all those .50's in the nose
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If you really want to have fun, there's the one with the 4X 20mm load out in the nose and pods on each wing with 2 extra .50's each (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
- Jig
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Originally posted by fats:
Brewster Buffalo
9 hours, 2 minutes! Even worse than last time!
Hey finns, we have to do better than this! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Camo
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Camouflage
XO, Lentolaivue 34
www.muodos.fi/LLv34 (http://www.muodos.fi/LLv34)
Brewster into AH!
"The really good pilots use their superior judgement to keep them out of situations
where they might be required to demonstrate their superior skill."
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Hmm seems like LW boys want FW190D, but they forgot to mention SpitXIV too (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
To start another war with Pongo: FW190D is too uber and should not be introduced in AH (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
mx22
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how bout this: All the planes from AW3...
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I like the idea of some sea planes, that whole Idea would be really cool. Don't know how we would fit them in though.
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USAF
P-47D
(P-51B) not new but I hope to see this model (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
B-24J
P-40
US navy
F6F-5
SB2C
TBF
Luftwaffe
Ju-87
Bf-110
He-111
Fw190D-9
Regia Aeronautica
SM-79
Re-2005 or G55 (very similar)
Re-2002
CR42
Japan
Ki-61
G4M2
B6N2
Ki-45
VVS
Il-2
LaGG-3
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UK
Hurricane MkII
Wellington
Mosquito
Blenheim
Others
D.520
Brewster Buffalo
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Originally posted by VISCONTI:
VVS
Il-2
LaGG-3
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Hey Visconti,
Do you know that Lagg-3 was called "varnished guaranteed coffin" by Russian pilots? If to have a choice of the Russian early war plane, Yak-1 or Mig-3 would get my vote.
But then again, I grew up seeing movies and reading books where Russian pilots flew I-16s, so I feel biased towards that small plane (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
mx22
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THE JUG the jug
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If we ever get seaplanes, this one is a must have:
http://www.topcities.com/personal/masterdrew/do-24a.htm (http://www.topcities.com/personal/masterdrew/do-24a.htm)
Az
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Si tacuisses, philosophus manisses.
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In order: Spit XIV, a fighter-bomber Mosquito, the Gigant.
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NONE!! There are enough planes in AH already! After this next 1.03.
Other things should be accomplished first before new planes are brought in! Examples:
Different terrain (Seperate land masses)
Dedicated SA
Few more Ground vehicles
Roads
Multiple area HQs for each country
Carriers
Railways
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Swager
XO I/JG2~Richthofen~
"Damn.....I can't believe I missed that shot!!!"
(http://saintaw.tripod.com/swager.jpg)
JG2 "Richthofen" (http://members.tripod.com/JG2/)
[This message has been edited by Swager (edited 06-13-2000).]
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Based on Swagers post above, I would have to go for trains, ground vehicles, and new Maps (Obviously OTW with the Terrain editor (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) ). However, if they MUST add more planes, I'll stick to my earlier post. (C'mon funked, we need to push the Shoki more! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ).
(http://www.devildogs.com/vmf111/sdsig2.gif)
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How about a YB-40 escort fortress (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
IC
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YB-40 - the ultimate in Ackstar technology. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Uh the Quake forum is onna nother board (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
just say no to uberplanes (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
If ya can't shoot ME down in a half-assed plane, then yas ain't beating me, yore aeroplane is.
Lagg-3
Mig-3
I-16
Tb-3
109E
P40
P39
A5m
D250
G.50
Fokker DXXI
P.11
P36
Buffalo
MS.406
BR.20
"real men fly old planes" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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pzvg- "5 years and I still can't shoot"
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Seriously, I think one scenario that most/all sims miss and I think would be fun PLUS be a selling point would be the Battle for France.
Needed would be the Dewotine D.520 and Potez 631 for the French and the Bf110 for the Luftwaffe...Ju88 and He111 would be nice for the scenario too. Also would be cool to have the Fokker G1A Mercury and XXI models.
There you go! Now you would have selling force in France/Holland! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I'm sure all those French players would love getting raped by superior aircraft...
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How about the Tiger Moth for the Training Arena? I think a 2 seater TM would be cool to train students in.
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The planes we need most are:
P47 (to round out late war ami euro theatre)
190 D9 (round out german late war theatre)
Val
Dauntless
Stuka
3 early war dive bombers, one for each side (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)I like dive bomiing. I can't wait until we have carriers and I can scream down in my Dauntless and drop on the Akagi with big flak burst going off all around, plant a 1000 lb-er right on the big red dot, and yell "scratch one flattop!" anyone remember aces of the pacific? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Val, Dauntless, Stuka - George, F4U, and Fw 190A can perform the dive bomber role just as well, plus they can strafe, escape, shoot down planes, etc.
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For me -
Mosquito FB.VI
Beaufighter TF.X
Spitfire XIV
Hurricane IIA/B/C/D or IV
A-26 Invader (20mm equiped)
Ki61 Tony
Ki102 Randy
Me 410
Fw200 Condor
Hmmm
'Nexx'
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
How about the Tiger Moth for the Training Arena? I think a 2 seater TM would be cool to train students in.
Fantastic idea Rip! Be good fun!
'Nexx'
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Nath, but it's ok ta put a zeke in here? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
C'mon, admit it y'all jus' afeared 'o gittin'
kilt by some ol' dawg ya done fergot still had teeth (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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pzvg- "5 years and I still can't shoot"
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Will be another uber-plane (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
the bearcat in french marking (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
(correct french pronunciation for bearcat : BEERCat (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) )
(http://francewarbirds.free.fr/Photos/Jpg/bearcat-f-azrj-vol2.jpg)
However a single plane in french marking would be ok
I've a picture of strange french marked planes I'll try to post it as soon as I've scanned it ....
(there was FW109,Zero,Yak and what the french have recovered at the end of the war (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
cya!
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Well, I would like to see the Junkers Ju 288 armed with the single shot only Munchhausen 104 (!!! 355,56 mm !!!) It would be nice to see an airfield after a raid of few 288's (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
But I think that we will never see this baby in AH. Oh well then give me at least Me410, Petjakov Pe2, Il 10, P61, Defiant, Hurricane, Me163 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif), P47, FB Mosquito and H8K Emily. And many many more...
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MB
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We are getting a dive bomber. They are supposed to model the Ju-88 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) .
I would love a Dauntless though.
(http://www.devildogs.com/vmf111/sdsig2.gif)
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I think only the early model Ju 88A's had dive brakes(eg: A-1). Hopefully HTC will do a later Ju 88S model first.
[This message has been edited by juzz (edited 06-17-2000).]
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I would most like to see the:
Spitfire MkXIV
Other Aircraft (assuming that the Lancaster and Ju88 are coming in 1.04), in order that I'd like to see them:
H8K2 "Emily" - 'Cause it ain't a "Betty", has good armor and armament.
Fw190D-9 - 'Cause the LW boys need a late war FW.
Tupolev Tu-2S - 'Cause the Russians need a bomber and this onw is very good.
He177- 'Cause it would kinda give the LW boys a heavy bomber, and its weird.
Savoia-Marchetti S.M.79 - It'd give the RA boys a bomber, and its weirder.
J2M3 Raiden "Jack"- 'Cause it's a great fighter that hasn't been modeled.
P-47 - 'Cause the Yanks need to fill out their late war ETO aircraft list.
Mosquito MkVI, MkXVIII, MkXXX - One of the best aircraft of the war.
F6F Hellcat - Workhorse fighter of the Pacific.
T34/76, T34/85 - Best all round tank of the war.
That list would, I think, give a good base of aircraft to build on, while giving a toy or two to each side.
Sisu
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Tu-2? *choke gag*
Nope.
All the best russian bombers were tactical (like the germans) and of all of them my favorite would be the PE-2 with the ASH 820-FN motor. Several thousand were made around 1944-45. Thing a 2 engine bomber, lightweight, low drag and two La-5FN radials stuck on the thing (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Sorrow I think you are confusing the Pe-2 and the Tu-2.
The Tu-2 was the one with the twin Ash-82FN's. It was a twin-engined tactical bomber with top speed of about 340 mph and a 3000 lb bomb load.
Pe-2 was a dive bomber with VK-105. There were only 32 of them built with Ash-82FN. It was a neat plane, but the bombload (1300lb) is less than that of many fighters! I'd rather have an Il-10 for low level work and dive bombing. And for level bombing the Tu-2 is clearly superior.
[This message has been edited by funked (edited 06-17-2000).]
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Thank you for clarifying that, Funked.
Here are my stats on the Tu-2S:
Type: Medium Bomber
Powerplant: Two 1380-kW (1,850-hp) Shvetsov ASh-82FN 14-cylinder radial
piston engines
Performance: Maximum speed at full load 550 km/h (342 mph) at medium
altitudes; service ceiling 9.5 km (31,170 ft); range with 2500-kg (5,511-lb)
bombload, 1400 km (870 miles)
Weights: Empty (1943 production) 7474 kg (16,477 lb); maximum loaded
11360 kg (25,044 lb)
Dimensions: Span 18.86 m (61 ft 10½ in); length 13.8 m (45 ft 3 1/3 in); height
4.55 m (14 ft 11 in); wing area 48.8 m² (525 sq ft)
Armament: Two 20-mm ShVAK cannon in wing roots with 100 rounds each,
three single 12.7-mm (0.5-in) UBT guns, each with 250 rounds maximum
aimed by three aft crew-members; normal maximum bombload 3000-kg
(6,614-lb) with provision for 4000-kg (8,818-lb) as overload
Sisu
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basically, i'd like to see some more buffs for the gerry, limmies, and the rest for that matter. but to make this all worth will, i think that more ground items are required... eg trains, roads, and maybe sea based equipment.
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Kommandeur von II Gruppe
ExecutivOffizier von LuftJägerKorps
www.LuftJagerKorps.com
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The Pe-2 could carry much more than 1300lbs of bombs.
The maximum load was 4x100kg in the bomb bay and 2x100kg in engine nacelle bays, as well as 4x250kg on external racks. That's 1600kg, or about 3500lbs in total.
The Pe-2FT with VK-105PF engines had a top speed of 360mph.
Although, the Pe-2 can't carry a GAZ-67B light truck, like the Tu-2 can! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
(http://hep2.physics.arizona.edu/~savin/ram/tu-2-gaz-sh2p181-prec.jpg)
[This message has been edited by juzz (edited 06-20-2000).]
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BF-110!!!
BF-110!!!
BF-110!!!!
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Make it the 410 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) and a Mossie
Maik
II/JG2 Richthofen
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Maik i dont think the b17s would appreciate a rain of bk50s being hurled towards them (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
WE CAN ALL AGREE ON THE bf-110 RIGHT???
[This message has been edited by Torquila (edited 06-28-2000).]
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If we're going to due 1940 battle for France no ones mentioned the most important of the early french rides...the curtis hawk. was an outstanding T&Ber. In it's 1st engagment totally suprised the germans...12 (or some such #) jumped a few hawks...lost like 7 for no french damage...after that germans refused to engage em in turning fights.
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Now that we have the 190a5 and P47 I'd like a plane to kick their butt after they "miss & run".. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif), besides, this plane would also challange the P47's status of "ugliest plane yet" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Yup, you guessed it, I want the Do 335 "pfeil" :P
Effdub