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Title: New german tank destroyer
Post by: CrosFire on March 12, 2009, 06:38:00 PM
The elephant/Ferdinand tank destroyer this tank was used in Kursk and in Italy but I'm not sure if it has enough produced to be put in the game but it would also require turning in place because it does not have a traversable turret 

feel free to tell me this should wait but i think it would be a good addition
Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: Tec on March 12, 2009, 08:36:24 PM
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Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: Becinhu on March 12, 2009, 08:38:39 PM
Sure thing and every plane with peashooters will turret you first pass with that nice open turret.
Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: 1pLUs44 on March 12, 2009, 08:39:12 PM
lol, right after Tank Overhaul.

Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: FYB on March 12, 2009, 10:32:29 PM
Sure thing and every plane with peashooters will turret you first pass with that nice open turret.
You making fun of my pistol?  :lol
I should just parachute down with my pistol and pop every crewmen in the forehead.

-FYB
Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: phatzo on March 12, 2009, 11:11:49 PM
seen it on tank overhaul they did a real good job. Would end up a hanger queen with no turret.
Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: Cajunn on March 12, 2009, 11:15:28 PM
I'd actually like to see the *panther* or the Comet I (A34), but the Elephant would be great for hammering a town, but it would suffer in a tank battle where everything is moving around and would suck for spawn camping :rofl
Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: Lusche on March 13, 2009, 12:12:03 AM
but the Elephant would be great for hammering a town,

I doubt that. Only 55 rounds of ammo (Tiger has 92) and being a pure tank destroyer only a fraction of that might be actually HE ammo. The elefant would pale as a town kiler in comparison to Wirbelwind, Ostwind or even the T34/76. No turret= Easy prey for M8 rushing from the field.
Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: Cajunn on March 13, 2009, 12:31:27 AM
I doubt that. Only 55 rounds of ammo (Tiger has 92) and being a pure tank destroyer only a fraction of that might be actually HE ammo. The elefant would pale as a town kiler in comparison to Wirbelwind, Ostwind or even the T34/76. No turret= Easy prey for M8 rushing from the field.

Sorry I was referring to its only use in the MA....I was suggesting it would be almost useless in any other reguards.
Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: Lusche on March 13, 2009, 01:04:09 AM
Sorry I was referring to its only use in the MA....I was suggesting it would be almost useless in any other reguards.

I think it would be more useful in the defense of Vbases and towns, depending on enemy spawn point location, terrain and possible routes for inbound attackers. Could be quite nasty in some of the canyons.
Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: Cajunn on March 13, 2009, 01:18:44 AM
Could be quite nasty in some of the canyons.

awwwww I see your point on this one, and that was the one biggest thing against it, the open terrain and the lack of horizontal movement, something would have to be directly in front of it to get shot by it. 
Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: chris3 on March 13, 2009, 01:19:52 AM
moin

first: the ferdinand didnt have an open turet.

secound: his gun has more power as the tiger. it is the same gun from the kingtiger. so he doesnt need a movable turet because he engage the enemy from long range  ;).

it would be a usefull think ,im for it  :aok

cu chris3
Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: Coog03 on March 13, 2009, 03:26:25 AM
The Tank Overhaul on this tank basically said this tank sucked. Slow and lots of motor problems.
Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: Lusche on March 13, 2009, 03:35:30 AM
The Tank Overhaul on this tank basically said this tank sucked. Slow and lots of motor problems.

Motor problems are not modeled in AH (lucky 262 :D)
And if used defensively, speed is not a real issue either - I would even go so far that it's making it more interesting tactically: Your town under attack - Should you drive a fast T34, a more powerful but slower Tiger or this massive, but slow tortoise to defend it?
Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: chris3 on March 13, 2009, 04:37:34 AM
Motor problems are not modeled in AH (lucky 262 :D)
And if used defensively, speed is not a real issue either - I would even go so far that it's making it more interesting tactically: Your town under attack - Should you drive a fast T34, a more powerful but slower Tiger or this massive, but slow tortoise to defend it?

moin

if the enemy is close to town the t34 would be the better choice but if you knew there will come an attack in a few mins i would use the elefant/ferdinant.
but you can use it in an attack too, for example it can save the attack of ouer tankplatton from behind  :), expezialy if he has a hill position.

cu chris3
Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: Lusche on March 13, 2009, 04:42:21 AM
but you can use it in an attack too, for example it can save the attack of ouer tankplatton from behind  :), expezialy if he has a hill position.

As our ability to hit targets at any range is quite unreal, that would not be anything unique. Tiger can do that already and kill every GV at any range ;)
Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: stephen on March 13, 2009, 05:42:04 AM
Great idea id say, but the bit that is very important to a vehicle with a fixed gun is the ability to rotate in place by advancing one tread while reversing the other...
It isnt modeld for the tiger, and it would be useful....I believe it would be absolutly necesary for a tnk destroyer.
Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: SmokinLoon on March 13, 2009, 08:50:02 AM
Any tank that does not have a turret would be a hanger queen with the current model of steering in AH2.

StuG, Hetzer, Marder, Jagd IV, SU-100, etc, etc.  They would all all be sitting ducks for both enemy tanks (the very thing they were meant to destory) and enemy aircraft. 
Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: chris3 on March 13, 2009, 12:54:06 PM
As our ability to hit targets at any range is quite unreal, that would not be anything unique. Tiger can do that already and kill every GV at any range ;)

moin
jes but with this large 88 it would be allot easier  :cool:

@smokinloon
you are right this turret less tanks are only interestenig for skilled tank drivers, because you need to handel it tactical in a diverent way.

cu chris3
Title: Re: New german tank destroyer
Post by: Babalonian on March 13, 2009, 07:02:59 PM
One word in regards to german TDs: STuG

Thread = over.