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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Admiral on March 17, 2009, 12:45:50 PM
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Hey all,
I've been with Fighter Ace since the late 97 and have decided that unfortunately due to those who administer that game, it has really gone stale fast. A long time friend asked me to give this game a shot 2 years ago, but I guess its better to be late than not show at all. I am now 2 days new and look forward to figuring out how to master this game.
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Admiral
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Welcome to Aces High. Spend some time at the trainers site, the link is in the header under the trainers header. There is a lot more to this game than there was in FA. Ask your questions here, most will give you good answers, or point you toward an answer.
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Welcome Aboard Admiral! :aok
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Welcome to Aces High. Fugitive is correct as he usually is. check out the Training Arena as well. there is also a Training Forums as well to ask for some help. best advise i can give you is film everything and keep up your spirits up cause the learning curve is STEAP Salute
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I came over from FA a long time back. Welcome to your new addiction. :)
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welcome!
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Welcome to your new addiction. Like others say. ;)
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it has really gone stale fast.
What Do you mean Stale? I was recently thinking about giving Fighter ace a try. With their New Early jet warfare and Planes Aces High Dosen't have...And dosen't seem will get Anytime soon *hint hint* It seems like It may be better than AHII
IMO
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What Do you mean Stale? I was recently thinking about giving Fighter ace a try. With their New Early jet warfare and Planes Aces High Dosen't have...And dosen't seem will get Anytime soon *hint hint* It seems like It may be better than AHII
IMO
I gave FA a try recently while I took a short break here, I had played there before coming here as well back when AW closed its doors. Maybe I didn't give it a fair try but I found I couldn't enjoy the game play the same as I did here and with less than two weeks of my first month subscription gone I cancelled it.
I can't really put my finger on what the problem was but in those two weeks I was there I would say that the community was definitely less friendly towards newcomers than here in AH2. I know that's hard to believe with how some of the new guys think we treat them but it is how I found it. I went to the newbie room over there were beyond a certain rank they could only fly guns cold, I think this was meant to be so that they could help if you had any problems but what I saw was they flew to create a diversion so that squaddies of the high rankers could get the kill and advance. I came across this on numerous occasions. This wasn't my sole reason for leaving it was more the overall gameplay and seemingly little contrast between how the aircraft flew.
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Yup aces high does not need any of that since they are a WWII game. Far better than anything FA will be capable of IMHO.
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I too tried it out a couple of months back. I liked some of the set up there but gameplay and overall 'feel' seemed lacking. I didn't last a day there. I can't remember what I like in the set up, will look when I get home if I remember, but some of it I'd like to see in AH.
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Hey all,
I've been with Fighter Ace since the late 97 and have decided that unfortunately due to those who administer that game, it has really gone stale fast. A long time friend asked me to give this game a shot 2 years ago, but I guess its better to be late than not show at all. I am now 2 days new and look forward to figuring out how to master this game.
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Admiral
2 years??? think it has been more like 4. It's about time.
Hopefully you get that trial thing sorted out but lets face it. If you want to fly ww2 planes online your going to need a sub here and nowhere else. Your always welcome on our new vent server m8, Hopefully I can return the favour and help you along with this game.
:salute
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welcome aboard :salute
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What Do you mean Stale? I was recently thinking about giving Fighter ace a try. With their New Early jet warfare and Planes Aces High Dosen't have...And dosen't seem will get Anytime soon *hint hint* It seems like It may be better than AHII
IMO
You can't do Air Combat through the cockpit like Aces High. You don't have your own gunsight, you have what looks like a dull cross. No way to control the balance between the best/worst planes, so in the WWII Arena, you see everyone in F4U4C's (The Korean War Era F4U).
Not to be bashing Fighter Ace, but after so long of Aces High, you'll hate it.
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Another FAer comes to his senses. Glad to see you made the move. Just be patient and don't be afraid to ask for help,you will get it here.
I left FA about the same time as BRUV and love this SIM.
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you did?
I had HG ceech, 3lips someothers in his squad, some of the AoW, soulslinger and allusive. Ceech stuck it out all the others no longer play to my knowledge apart from my man playmate. Who is now the CO of The Few's american wing.
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YOU don't drop troops at the base!!!! :) you drop them at town when its all down and all ack is dead....
most commen mistake by FA guys.... good to see you here
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oh i forgot the old VAC_diggin is here too, can't believe i forgot to mention him, i'll get severely reprimanded now. :cry
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Thank you for the many welcomes. I will start my AH training tonight or tomorrow and give this game a whirl. I just hope you all can be patient with my quest to be #1, well atleast #1 in my mind. For those that have weak stomachs, I promise not to wear my Speedoman tag until I get good enough to kill a training drone.
I can already notice a big difference with this community versus that of Fighter Ace.
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Admiral
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BTW
We salute like this
<S> not =s=
Ok? :furious
lol :salute
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About time Admiral. AH2>FA.
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I will start my AH training tonight or tomorrow and give this game a whirl. I just hope you all can be patient with my quest to be #1, well atleast #1 in my mind. For those that have weak stomachs, I promise not to wear my Speedoman tag until I get good enough to kill a training drone.
<S> Admiral and welcome onboard. You may want to pay a visit to the Offline mission forum on this board, you'll find a lot of missions you can play offline against AI pilots. I think it would be a good way to start getting the feeling for our FM and for the various airplanes capabilities: of course nothing can replace training with another player, but it's a good start.
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Hi guys..
To explain my current issue, I have to explain a little about the game Fighter Ace. My biggest learning curve is to understand all available keys you can map to your joystick. Fighter Ace was real easy where I could map the basic following keys to my joystick and the rest activate via keyboard. Certain buttons would be mapped with multiple key mappings. (Example: Padlock enemy + Closest Enemy)
Jstick Mapping:
1. Fire
2. Flaps Up
3. Flaps Down
4. Padlock Enemy + Closest Enemy (Fighter Ace has the ability to use their padlock feature to spot the closest enemy and then toggle between multiple bogies by using the '.' or ',' key.) Does AH have something similar?
5. Map
6. Full Wheel Brakes + Air Brakes
7. Full View + Trim
8. Gears
Keyboard Keys:
'.' or ',' : Toggle between padlocked enemy or friendly
F7 - F8 : Pan view of your aircraft
F4: Padlock view, but giving you the ability to look around using your mouse key
Ctrl+W: WEP
Ctrl+E: Engine (on/off)
Shift+E: Eject
RightShift + Backspace: Drop Bombs, Drop additional fuel tanks, Drop Troops
Shift + Spacebar: shoot rockets
From my first initial take on AH as compared to Fighter Ace.. Boy did we have it easy.. lol
In FA, my flight style was simple.. I was a pure Energy pilot who constantly kept an eye on his surroundings. I'd always keep an eye on the map and little radar window at the bottom right corner of the screen, which does not seem to be available in AH. I would also use the tabbing keys to keep an eye on the fastest or biggest threat coming in and also keep an eye on my wingmen where'd I'd usually call out orders to make sure we all come out alive.
I know I am new and this will take time to learn, but I have had the same keys mapped and same flight style for going on 10 years now... lol So I know I can't expect to get this over night. I have already mapped my keys as close as my previous FA mapping. However, I would like to know if first of all, you can map multiple keys to one joystick button. The biggest obstacle of mine was keeping my Situational Awareness as high as I have in the past. The only way I was able to pan around my plane was via my joystick hatch key, which was also the way I kept my eye on the enemy.
Are there better ways for the following?:
1. Keep an eye on the map (currently i was using the ESC key, but i noticed the map would not come right up, there would be a slight delay bringing it up and bringing it down)
2. Is there a master fuel gage? Instead of panning across all tanks?
3. Damage View?
4. Padlock Closest Enemy and pan through others.
5. Padlock Closest Friendly
6. Is there a way to use your mouse to turn your head while in plane? What is the best method to look around
your aircraft?
7. Do most of you use not only the buttons on your joystick, but many other buttons on your keyboard? In FA, my keyboard buttons would not be needed during a battle, it just seems like I will need more key mapped to be successful.
Anyway, there are plenty more issues I have, but lets just start with the basics .. lol
Thanks again for your advice.
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Admiral
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im on our vent server for another hour + check our private squad forum for vent info or jump on msn.
we can get this setup to suit what you know already.
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Hi guys..
To explain my current issue, I have to explain a little about the game Fighter Ace. My biggest learning curve is to understand all available keys you can map to your joystick. Fighter Ace was real easy where I could map the basic following keys to my joystick and the rest activate via keyboard. Certain buttons would be mapped with multiple key mappings. (Example: Padlock enemy + Closest Enemy)
Jstick Mapping:
1. Fire
2. Flaps Up
3. Flaps Down
4. Padlock Enemy + Closest Enemy (Fighter Ace has the ability to use their padlock feature to spot the closest enemy and then toggle between multiple bogies by using the '.' or ',' key.) Does AH have something similar?
5. Map
6. Full Wheel Brakes + Air Brakes
7. Full View + Trim
8. Gears
Keyboard Keys:
'.' or ',' : Toggle between padlocked enemy or friendly
F7 - F8 : Pan view of your aircraft
F4: Padlock view, but giving you the ability to look around using your mouse key
Ctrl+W: WEP
Ctrl+E: Engine (on/off)
Shift+E: Eject
RightShift + Backspace: Drop Bombs, Drop additional fuel tanks, Drop Troops
Shift + Spacebar: shoot rockets
From my first initial take on AH as compared to Fighter Ace.. Boy did we have it easy.. lol
In FA, my flight style was simple.. I was a pure Energy pilot who constantly kept an eye on his surroundings. I'd always keep an eye on the map and little radar window at the bottom right corner of the screen, which does not seem to be available in AH. I would also use the tabbing keys to keep an eye on the fastest or biggest threat coming in and also keep an eye on my wingmen where'd I'd usually call out orders to make sure we all come out alive.
I know I am new and this will take time to learn, but I have had the same keys mapped and same flight style for going on 10 years now... lol So I know I can't expect to get this over night. I have already mapped my keys as close as my previous FA mapping. However, I would like to know if first of all, you can map multiple keys to one joystick button. The biggest obstacle of mine was keeping my Situational Awareness as high as I have in the past. The only way I was able to pan around my plane was via my joystick hatch key, which was also the way I kept my eye on the enemy.
Are there better ways for the following?:
1. Keep an eye on the map (currently i was using the ESC key, but i noticed the map would not come right up, there would be a slight delay bringing it up and bringing it down)
2. Is there a master fuel gage? Instead of panning across all tanks?
3. Damage View?
4. Padlock Closest Enemy and pan through others.
5. Padlock Closest Friendly
6. Is there a way to use your mouse to turn your head while in plane? What is the best method to look around
your aircraft?
7. Do most of you use not only the buttons on your joystick, but many other buttons on your keyboard? In FA, my keyboard buttons would not be needed during a battle, it just seems like I will need more key mapped to be successful.
Anyway, there are plenty more issues I have, but lets just start with the basics .. lol
Thanks again for your advice.
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Admiral
To answer all your questions simply: pretty much all yes.
Spend some time at the Trainers website (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/)
AH has mouse look (Shift M) and most of the features you listed.
Print this out to make it all easier One page quick refrence (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/quickref/quickref.pdf)
Spend some time at the trainers website, and visit www.netaces.org and read. Lots of good stuff at the AH Help page as well AcesHigh Help Page (http://www.hitechcreations.com/frameset1.html?ahhelp/index.html).
Take advantage of our one of the wonderfull Trainers in the Training Arena. That would prob. be the most helpfull thing you could do and will shed months off of your "figurin' out ma'self" time.
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I don't think he needs to spend time in the TA right now if he's been playing for 10+ years...
To answer a couple questions... On the clipboard map open up the E6B and this will tell you your overall fuel and eta of flight time remaining.
To check damage, Ctrl D.
In fights you don't need to use the keyboard really if you have flaps, wep, and views mapped to your joystick. In a multi bandit engagement the clipboard map isn't going to help your SA. You need to keep tabs on everything going on with your views.
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I don't think he needs to spend time in the TA right now if he's been playing for 10+ years...
To answer a couple questions... On the clipboard map open up the E6B and this will tell you your overall fuel and eta of flight time remaining.
To check damage, Ctrl D.
In fights you don't need to use the keyboard really if you have flaps, wep, and views mapped to your joystick. In a multi bandit engagement the clipboard map isn't going to help your SA. You need to keep tabs on everything going on with your views.
He will learn more in one hour with a Trainer than he can figure out by himself in a month. Doesn't matter if he flew FA for 10 yrs, he's new to THIS game and the Trainer will be able to answer all his ?'s and get him pointed in the right direction.
To be honest, there are few people that fly AcesHigh that would NOT benefit from an hour with a Trainer.
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1. Keep an eye on the map
No, that's the fastest way to bring it up. Note that if you press Esc as it's coming up, you'll only slow it down, not retract it.
2. Is there a master fuel gage?
The red needle on some of the most recently updated planes.
3. Damage View?
Ctrl-D
4. Padlock Closest Enemy and pan through others.
Tab. You can also set controls for padlock center target, or cycle to next one.
5. Padlock Closest Friendly
Ctrl-Tab to enable friendly lock, then works just like enemies.
6. Is there a way to use your mouse to turn your head while in plane? What is the best method to look around your aircraft?
Yes, map it to yaw and pitch camera, then you have an option to start in mouse view. H toggles it, I think.
7. Do most of you use not only the buttons on your joystick, but many other buttons on your keyboard? In FA, my keyboard buttons would not be needed during a battle, it just seems like I will need more key mapped to be successful
I have all the time critical controls on the hotas.
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Can't go wrong with a good HOTAS setup. Definitely recommend the CH set (F-16 Fighterstick + Pro Throttle). Oh, and you'll want pedals. Really, REALLY want pedals. Twisty stick is better than keyboard, but having pedals is night and day compared to the twisty stick. Rudder is useful all around, but especially in planes like the F4U where rudder can have a big impact on flight maneuvers.
As moot said, anything you need to hit in combat you'll want to have mapped to the stick. I don't use the keyboard for any actual combat controls, and most standard flight controls. I have flaps, gear, tail hook, engine selection (L, R and All) and controls (throttle and RPM), zoom, views, comms, weapons selection, primary/secondary/all fire, map, trim controls, etc. all mapped to the stick and throttle. The less you need to use the keyboard for actual flight the better and quicker you can respond.
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alt+f4 = do not listen to anyone who tells you this
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welcome aboard admiral
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6. Is there a way to use your mouse to turn your head while in plane? What is the best method to look around your aircraft?
Yes, map it to yaw and pitch camera, then you have an option to start in mouse view. H toggles it, I think.
Mouse look is Shift M to toggle it on/off. No need to mess w/ mapings, cameras etc, it is built into the game.
And yes in Prefrences, Options, View Options you can select to have Mouse Look auto on or not.
Personally I hate it and never saw the need. AcesHigh has a great view system and I never saw the need. On that note, make sure to map a VIEW UP key on your joystick. That, combined with your hat, will ensure you can keep eyes on the bad guys at all times.
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And yes in Prefrences, Options, View Options you can select to have Mouse Look auto on or not.
Personally I hate it and never saw the need.
I've only ever used it when I've needed to zoom view in on a specific object/area for damage assesment.
Now for my "personally" opinion. Personally I think padlock view is horrid for SA, and an unnecessary crutch given AHs great view system.
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Personally I hate it and never saw the need. AcesHigh has a great view system and I never saw the need. On that note, make sure to map a VIEW UP key on your joystick. That, combined with your hat, will ensure you can keep eyes on the bad guys at all times.
quoted for truth. I was hanging for way more than "i'll be 30mins", had to get some sleep i'm on earlies this week. Some great advice already in this thread.
Like i've said all along you just need to put in a few hours of PATIENT setup, with someone who can answer any of your noobish questions. Don't get frustrated over stuff you can't figure out. Come here and ask or send me an email.
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Welcome to the MA weve got hos and picks
talk to all the masters and pick up on their tricks
dogding wirble fire, furballing kikin oscar
shot down and hangin with LTARS down in the long grass.
:) im workin on it Welcome, have fun
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Welcome to AcesHigh II, Admiral.
Luck to you, and good hunting. <S>
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Welcome to the MA weve got hos and picks
talk to all the masters and pick up on their tricks
dogding wirble fire, furballing kikin oscar
shot down and hangin with LTARS down in the long grass.
:) im workin on it Welcome, have fun
the first two lines are ok with the rhyme but im not feeling the rest of it. :)
i guess oscar = arse and that goes with grass
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Hey all,
I've been with Fighter Ace since the late 97 and have decided that unfortunately due to those who administer that game, it has really gone stale fast. A long time friend asked me to give this game a shot 2 years ago, but I guess its better to be late than not show at all. I am now 2 days new and look forward to figuring out how to master this game.
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Admiral
Hello everyone,
My self and my whole squad like Admiral are in the process of making the switch from Fighter Ace. I had been in FA since 98 and to tell you the truth i have not seen many changes through the years. The Black Hats were looking for a new home and i think we have found it. We are still trying to figure out the game , but that will come in time. I'm glad that we have found this game.
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Acer72
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welcome to the game admiral and Black Hats
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Welcome gents!
Hope you find years of enjoyment with Aces High. I strongly suggest some time in the Training Area (TA) you will not find more helpful fellows. :)
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Hello everyone,
My self and my whole squad like Admiral are in the process of making the switch from Fighter Ace. I had been in FA since 98 and to tell you the truth i have not seen many changes through the years. The Black Hats were looking for a new home and i think we have found it. We are still trying to figure out the game , but that will come in time. I'm glad that we have found this game.
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Acer72
Welcome TBH,
If you find me online don't hesitate to shoot me some noob questions and i'll do my best to answer them. The transition is difficult i have the T shirt somewhere but you'll pick up useful bits of info on the boards, the trainer website and in game, once you've learnt the basics you'll find the game to be much more enjoyable and appreciate it much more when you do better at it.
FA was black and white TV
AH is full colour no going back now.
I stole this analogy.
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Welcome TBHs
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See Rule #6
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See Rule #6
Thank you all for the warm welcome fellas....... :salute
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Welcome to AH2 all you FA guys.
I just need to stress one thing... dont use padlock in AH2... the AH2 view system is so great and flexible that you dont need it. You can customize all your views on all your planes. On every single view position you can move your head around and find the best view out of that position.
This way you can create setups with a very low amount of blind spots even on planes like the F6F.
The transition between the custom views are smooth and work great. You can quickly scan the entire sky and easily track your enemies manually. By tracking manually and looking around you with the pov hat you get a much more natural view of your surrounding can can easily scan for targets.
If you map the POV hat to front up, front left, left, back left, back, back right, right and front right and then map one button to UP you can combine that button and your POV hat to get to the front up left, front up back left, front up back, etc, etc views...
This way you can scan the entire sky in two "laps" around the POV hat... one just the POV and then one POV + button to tilt it up. Thats easily done in 1-2 seconds. There is no way you can beat that with padlock and tabbing through targets especially in a traget rich environment.
Tex
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Thanks for the Tip Tex will definitely give that a try.... :aok