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Title: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: moot on March 18, 2009, 08:46:06 AM
How do you disable it?  I want files like this:
\System Volume Information\_restore{40A0799A-3587-4B2B-9765-02606E76D364}\...\___.exe
and their folders completely erased.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: TheZohan on March 18, 2009, 08:55:09 AM
right click on my computer , click properies its under the system restore tab
Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: Delirium on March 18, 2009, 09:23:19 AM
Keep in mind if you disable it, it also (more often than not) disables all previous back ups as well.
Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: TheZohan on March 18, 2009, 09:25:13 AM
my experience is that its a nice feature but if it gets to the point where you have to use it then its better just to start from scratch.
Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: Denholm on March 18, 2009, 10:36:10 AM
Pfft... One program messed up because I press a wrong button. And I have to spend 3 hours reinstalling windows and all the files I had on my computer? No thanks, I'll just spend 10 minutes initiating a system restore and voila, problem resolved. No moot, I'm not saying you're making a bad choice. I'm simply stating that system restores can come in handy when you want to save time on the small things.
Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: TheZohan on March 18, 2009, 10:40:59 AM
refering to the people that try to use the feature to restore a major virus infection.
Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: Denholm on March 18, 2009, 10:41:58 AM
Now that makes some more sense.
Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: Fulmar on March 18, 2009, 11:07:10 AM
I've disabled it for years.  Every previous time I went to use it, it caused a bigger mess than what I was in.  If something serious happened to my Windows install, I don't mind a nice format.
Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: TheZohan on March 18, 2009, 11:09:05 AM
I've disabled it for years.  Every previous time I went to use it I caused a bigger mess than what I was in.  If something serious happened to my Windows install, I don't mind a nice format.

first thing i turn off when i do installs
Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: Ghosth on March 18, 2009, 05:02:48 PM
I've never seen one program screwing up cause anything that I'd have to do a system restore to fix, period.

Runs with it off, good to repartition, reformat and reinstall OS once a year anyway, even if its just to remind you how.
But your computer will run smoother, cleaner.
Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: Skuzzy on March 18, 2009, 05:07:33 PM
I always disable it right off the bat.  Waste of resources as far as I am concerned.  I have dealt with too many people who have made a mess of thier computers using it.
Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: TheZohan on March 19, 2009, 07:04:27 AM
I always disable it right off the bat.  Waste of resources as far as I am concerned.  I have dealt with too many people who have made a mess of thier computers using it.

agreed!  :aok
Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: captain1ma on March 19, 2009, 12:29:24 PM
i use restore on a regular basis and have fixed many problems with it. i work in a corporate headquarters for a medium healthcare company as a desktop support tech. 

just the other day, i had a machine that lost ip after about 5 minutes. no rhyme or reason. restored it back to 3 weeks ago, machine hasnt had a problem since.

skuzzy is right about it using resources, but sometimes you get lucky with restore and sometimes you dont. its a hit or miss thing.
Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: Skuzzy on March 19, 2009, 12:44:10 PM
i use restore on a regular basis and have fixed many problems with it. i work in a corporate headquarters for a medium healthcare company as a desktop support tech. 

just the other day, i had a machine that lost ip after about 5 minutes. no rhyme or reason. restored it back to 3 weeks ago, machine hasnt had a problem since.

This is symptomatic of another problem though.  You successfully masked it.

skuzzy is right about it using resources, but sometimes you get lucky with restore and sometimes you dont. its a hit or miss thing.
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Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: TheZohan on March 19, 2009, 01:41:16 PM
i use restore on a regular basis and have fixed many problems with it. i work in a corporate headquarters for a medium healthcare company as a desktop support tech. 

just the other day, i had a machine that lost ip after about 5 minutes. no rhyme or reason. restored it back to 3 weeks ago, machine hasnt had a problem since.

skuzzy is right about it using resources, but sometimes you get lucky with restore and sometimes you dont. its a hit or miss thing.

if your losing IP then thats the wrong way to go about fixing it IMHO, as Skuzzy stated you got it working but didnt figure out why its doing it in the first place
Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: captain1ma on March 19, 2009, 02:45:57 PM
you're right we didnt fix the problem or find the root cause either, But after a new motherboard and 2 hours worth of diagnostics, it was easier to use restore.
Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: Ghastly on March 23, 2009, 05:56:04 PM
The system restore point snapshot's are often one of the few tools at my disposal when folks bring in a virally (or more often lately, malware/scamware) infected system that they need my help to fix. 

Not because the Microsoft system restore tool itself works most of the time (it doesn't), but because using a Linux Live boot I can usually get to untouched previous copies of the registry on a machine that otherwise isn't backed up any other way.  (If anyone ever brings me a system that's screwed up that actually has anything like a backup, I'd probably faint...)

So turn it off if you want, but it (unlike much else in the Windows OS's) doesn't use resources other than just when it's saving a restore point (except disk space, of course), so it doesn't do much harm even if it never does you any good.

I'd advise against it, though - and certainly against it unless you are absolutely sure you are getting good backups to another media that INCLUDE a good backup of the registry unless of course you don't mind a periodic complete reload. Which I agree is one of the best way's to clean up problems (and often, the only one that works "completely"). 

But often time, when the rubber meets the road , system restore can buy you the time you need when something happens to get back into operation until you have the time to do a better fix.   And frankly, while it's certainly kludgy, it's not any more of a kludge than the entire rest of the OS - and less so than much of it.

All IMO, of course.

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Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: rapp25 on March 23, 2009, 06:15:36 PM
Handy to have on if your a person who doesn't get viruses or spyware/malware as due to "spontaneous combustion" when sometimes installing stuff you get bsods and weird crap happening, very rarely but its happened to me once or twice when installing seemingly innocuous programs that I can only guessed clashed or conflicted with something.

Generally speaking I run a completely toned down XP so all unnecessary services are off including system restore.
Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: Skuzzy on March 23, 2009, 08:24:26 PM
Actually Ghastly, my last Windows XP system ran for 5 years on its install.  Never had an issue with it.  Then again, my own disciplines prevent most things, that the typical user runs into, which could damage or destroy the stability of a Windows based system.

Personally, I don't care if the registry gets whacked, as long as the data files are protected, all the other files can be re-installed.  I spent half a day getting my new computer up and running.  My data files are on a separate file server so I did not have to move them at all.

Am I advocating everyone to turn it off?  Not by a long shot.
Title: Re: Disable system restore under XP
Post by: chewiex on March 25, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
Isn't there a way in Win XP, that you can manually delete "old" system restore points if you're going to keep System Restore turned on? Like, go back and keep say, just the last month or so and delete the rest?
Just curious cause System Restore had saved me many hours of issues in the past, though I recently had to re-format and partition my HD thanks to a nasty virus. Got a nice clean install now though. :aok