Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: stephen on March 20, 2009, 06:23:00 AM
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Trying to keep this bird fresh on the mind of attack pilots everywhere...
A-26 Invader....we need it!! :salute
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If they are still using the results from the Vote we had a while back, it should be the next plane added.
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:pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :aok :devil
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I would LOVE to see this plane added. :D
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Fortunately they are not using that list. We don't need the A-26.
Go take a look at the list of aircraft in this game by nation. Notice any slight lopsidedness? Trust me, the Japanese flew almost as great a variety of aircraft as we did because their military was split much like ours. Compare the US and Japanese lists.
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Reason aircraft types are lopsided is that on the whole the Italian,Japanese,German, and Russian bombers of the time where lite bombers that carried lite bomb loads, with little defensive firepower......i.e. they sukked (to put it bluntly)
Targets in this game require more damage to put down than a He-111 can muster.
Saying that the A-26 isnt needed in the game is avoiding the point I believe, we dont need a Me-262,...... but the performance and fame of the airframe merits its introduction.
Plus the A-26 does somthing dare I say not many other bombers missing from the game can claim, carry a useful bomb load.
So, I LIKE THE A-26!!!!! oh gosh pretty please can we have this plane!!!!!? :D
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Reason aircraft types are lopsided is that on the whole the Italian,Japanese,German, and Russian bombers of the time where lite bombers that carried lite bomb loads, with little defensive firepower......i.e. they sukked (to put it bluntly)
Do 217 - Introduced in 1941.
Main bomber versions had max Speed ~340 mph, max bomb load 8800lbs.
Basically a combination of Ki-67's speed and B-24's bombload ;)
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wow, let me do a wiki search
Yup, was the plane I was refering to when I said Do17, but I was mistaken on the designation,...I neglected the 2, oops
Thus I must retract that statment about the dornier....hows about I say He111 instead?...
And I did say on the whole, which doesnt mean every one of them stunk obviously...The ju88 is in the game and rightly so I believe.
I modifyd this post as soon as I wiki'd the dornier, Lusche is pretty fast on the punch, gotta hand it to him, lol
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Would that be the maritme recom Dornier with the 4 engines housed in two nacels?
Caught on fire, and had structural problems.....granted that is an exception....that and the Ju88.
No. A standard two engine mid-/latewar German bomber.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101III-Pachnike-041-24A%2C_Flugzeug_Dornier_Do_17%2C_PK-Filmberichter.jpg)
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Fortunately they are not using that list. We don't need the A-26.
Go take a look at the list of aircraft in this game by nation. Notice any slight lopsidedness? Trust me, the Japanese flew almost as great a variety of aircraft as we did because their military was split much like ours. Compare the US and Japanese lists.
What country are the bulk of the players from?
That might explain the requests for the planes from the United States.
Although I can appreciate the requests from the guys who play the scenarios, the majority " should" have the majority vote here.
I mean c'mon, the Brewster Buffalo?
Lets get something in here that the "majority" of the players will use.
Bring on the KI-84lb :rock
I think this plane would knock the C-hog off its score ho pedestal.
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Retract bombload, suplant defense, lol ...fine lushce stick my feet in the fire
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I cant find an 8800 pound bombload, im looking, but christ thats alot for that little plane....according to the information the sukker outperforms the A-26...
Found it, christ, this thing is a monster....ty Lusche for putting it dead in front of me. AND the sukker could dive bomb in one variant...
My favor is with the A-26 if it came to a vote... but it seems to be pretty obviouse that the Dornier should be introduced as well, meets all my requirments and has a dive brake to boot
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Look, IMO the A-26 Invader is just plain cool. That's why I would like to see it added to the game. As a bonus, it also has great 'stats'.
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What country are the bulk of the players from?
That might explain the requests for the planes from the United States.
Although I can appreciate the requests from the guys who play the scenarios, the majority " should" have the majority vote here.
I mean c'mon, the Brewster Buffalo?
Lets get something in here that the "majority" of the players will use.
Bring on the KI-84lb :rock
I think this plane would knock the C-hog off its score ho pedestal.
No, it should be a dictatorship run by HiTech and Pyro.
Also, there is very, very little left to add that the majority will use.
Still, for your amusement, all of these would see moderate to heavy use:
Do217
Ju188
Pe-2
Tu-2
J2M
Ki-44
Ki-102
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Found it, christ, this thing is a monster....ty Lusche for putting it dead in front of me. AND the sukker could dive bomb in one variant...
They gave up divebombing very early. Too much strain on the plane.
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There is little that the A-20 cant do...the A-26 is certainly a superior plane but for game purposes they are identical. The A-20 with either the original US $ x 20mm load out or the Russian 4 x 20mm load out would be just fine vs the A-26 (not that I wouldn't love to have it).
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I really think the A-26 is a better choice than the 217, I like having gunz in the nose, and an effective defence.
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I really think the A-26 is a better choice than the 217, I like having gunz in the nose, and an effective defence.
If you define choice purely on biggest badest, most potent plane yes.
But that's a race ending in nothing but verly late war monsters. (Also I sometimes have the feeling that most players requesting the "awesome" stuff do forget all their enemies will be able to fly/drive it too ;))
I'm not arguing against a A-26 per se.. just saying that the 217 is a competitive aircraft spanning a huge timeframe (early to late war), closing a big gap in the planeset (currently players flying German iron only are stuck with slow EW bomber). It's a better choice in terms of balance, variety and gameplay :)
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If you define choice purely on biggest badest, most potent plane yes.
But that's a race ending in nothing but verly late war monsters. (Also I sometimes have the feeling that most players requesting the "awesome" stuff do forget all their enemies will be able to fly/drive it too ;))
I'm not arguing against a A-26 per se.. just saying that the 217 is a competitive aircraft spanning a huge timeframe (early to late war), closing a big gap in the planeset (currently players flying German iron only are stuck with slow EW bomber). It's a better choice in terms of balance, variety and gameplay :)
Damn!! There ya go trying to make sense again!
While i agree with your rational, I still have to ask: will the 217 be worth the effort to put into the game before the A-26 as it would not get as much usage as the 26?
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Damn!! There ya go trying to make sense again!
While i agree with your rational, I still have to ask: will the 217 be worth the effort to put into the game before the A-26 as it would not get as much usage as the 26?
would it really not get as much usage? I'm not sure. Also, isn't usageA>usageB alone a pretty narrow factor in determining which plane to add next? the Do 217 would be far from being a hangar queen...
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would it really not get as much usage? I'm not sure. Also, isn't usageA>usageB alone a pretty narrow factor in determining which plane to add next? the Do 217 would be far from being a hangar queen...
I'm not really sure either, just an assumption.
Would it see more use than the 39 or the 25? ( the 26)
I think it would.
And while i wouldn't want to deny the guys who fly scenarios their due.
I think the majority of players( The MAs) should get 1st dibs.
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(currently players flying German iron only are stuck with slow EW bomber). It's a better choice in terms of balance, variety and gameplay :)
Thanks for the notice Lusche.
Bring on the Stuka G-2 so I can kill GV's on a base with ords and fighters down.