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Post by: brady on August 08, 2001, 07:57:00 AM
???

 (http://content.communities.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=MyPhotos_GetPubPhoto&PhotoID=nHwAAAPUIs3IHCE9pAnwEG48xtfYulc9uQpMdm0JWkN3r2a3dhLPR0Ys0JMaL2!Cd)
Title: Name This...(12)
Post by: GRUNHERZ on August 08, 2001, 08:04:00 AM
Yamato during 1941.
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Post by: pugg666 on August 08, 2001, 08:29:00 AM
yep yamato...but 1941?????
44-45 sure but in 41 it was still being built no?

[edit]Sorry grun...was just doing some research. you're right that pic was taken during her sea trials in octobre of 41. i didn't think they finished her that early[/edit]

[ 08-08-2001: Message edited by: pugg666 ]
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Post by: pugg666 on August 08, 2001, 08:42:00 AM
(http://www.warships1.com/Weapons/WNJAP_18.1-45_shells_pic.jpg)

text from the website where i found this pic

18.1" (46 cm) Shells at the Headquarters of the Commander in Chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet in Hawaii

Inscription on the Plaque at this site:

"These six foot 3,200 pound projectiles were the ammunition for the largest guns ever to go to sea.  Aboard the Japanese Imperial Navy battleships Yamato and Musashi, these projectiles could be hurled more than 25 miles at 40 second intervals by 18 inch guns.  The 68,000 ton Yamato, the largest battleship in the world, was completed December 1941.  Her sister ship, Musashi, was completed eight months later.  Neither ship reached five years of age, both saw action and were sunk during World War 2, thus ending the brief era of the 18 inch gun.  These projectiles are unarmed target shells.  They were originally discovered at the Yokusuka Navy base and placed on display at the US Naval Ordnance Facility, Yokusuka in 1962.  These, and two similar projectiles on display in Hiroshima prefecture, Japan, are believed to be the only ones in existence today.  They were brought to Hawaii in April of 1971."


and you think hispano rounds are over modeled  :D
Title: Name This...(12)
Post by: Pongo on August 08, 2001, 10:36:00 AM
I dont know about 41 but it is before they removed the 6" turrents from above the 2 and 3 turrent. So Pre 1943 anyway.
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Post by: Widewing on August 08, 2001, 12:44:00 PM
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Originally posted by Pongo:
I dont know about 41 but it is before they removed the 6" turrents from above the 2 and 3 turrent. So Pre 1943 anyway.

I believe that this photo was taken during Yamato's sea trials. So, 1941 sounds correct to me.

My regards,

Widewing
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Post by: Arty on August 08, 2001, 04:31:00 PM
It is obviously, the Flagship of the Earth Defense Force. The Argo, evidently before instalation of the wave motion cannon and prior to Derek Wildstar's arrival.
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Post by: Regurge on August 08, 2001, 05:06:00 PM
Arty what show was that? I have vague memories of some cartoon featuring a battleship cruising around in space and firing big twisty lasers. Being about 8 years old at the time I thought it was the coolest thing ever.
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Post by: pugg666 on August 08, 2001, 05:30:00 PM
read the edit on my first post.....it was taken on octobre 30th 1941
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Post by: Arty on August 08, 2001, 05:40:00 PM
Regurge,
You sure are making me feel old. The Program here was called "StarBlazers" you can find video's and DVD's of the show at Suncoast vidoe's. I believe in Japan it was called Space Cruiser Yamato. There are a few good websites of the show. I have'nt been to them in quite sometime so I am not sure of the links.
Arty
Title: Name This...(12)
Post by: brady on August 09, 2001, 07:58:00 AM
Yamato during 1941,it is :)
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Post by: Pongo on August 09, 2001, 09:52:00 AM
Through the fire and the smoke
We will never give up hope
If we can live the earth will survive
We'll keep peace alive with our Star Blazer
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Post by: Boroda on August 12, 2001, 01:04:00 PM
I was amazed when I saw a 406mm Soviet cannon shell, from a 406mm system supposed to be installed on "Sovetskiy Soyuz" battleship... This cannons were used in defence of Leningrad. Witnesses said that with a lucky hit they tore apart a whole tank platoon!

Can't even imagine a 468mm shell...

My father was a navy cadet in 1943-1948, and in 1944 he served on board of "Archangelsk" battleship, former British "Royal Soverign", in Northern Fleet.

"Alexandrov's battery" in Sevastopol was made of "Empress Maria" Black Sea Fleet battleship sunk by German agents in 1916. 3-barreled 12" turrets defended Sevastopol. Nazi heavy artillery was unable to hit the turrets, and Stukas were unable to destroy them too. They were a huge nail in the bellybutton for nazies. Finaly, when they ran out of shells, and nazi infantry attacked them - they simply shot without shells, with flame stream burning everything for 300m...

"Marat" battleship, "Sevastopol" type Baltic dreadnaught, was hit by Rudel's Stuka, right into the first exaust pipe, and lost the nose part with turret #1. Remaining three turrets, total 9 12" cannons continued to fire at the enemy...

Old artillery ships are my old love. Every time I am in Leningrad I get some time to visit "Aurora" cruiser, the world's oldest war ship still afloat. It's fantastic to stand on the deck of a cruiser that was built 100 years ago and survived Tsushima battle...
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Post by: Karnak on August 12, 2001, 02:08:00 PM
Baroda,

If its a cruiser, then I don't think its as old as the USS Constitution, which is also still afloat (and still commissioned)

The oldes warship still in existance that I'm aware of is the HMS Victory, but she isn't afloat any more.

The Swedish warship Wasa is even older, but I'm not sure how much a ship that was under water for 350 years counts.
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Post by: Regurge on August 12, 2001, 02:51:00 PM
Karnak beat me to it.

 http://www.ussconstitution.navy.mil/ (http://www.ussconstitution.navy.mil/)

Says here the USS Constitution was launched in 1797.
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Post by: Boroda on August 12, 2001, 08:17:00 PM
OK!

 (http://www.museum.navy.ru/images/a-12.jpg)

Aurora is my personal love....
 http://www.museum.navy.ru/f1e.htm (http://www.museum.navy.ru/f1e.htm)

Anyway - it's the oldest steam war ship afloat  ;)

Beat it and invite me to visit a winner.

If you win - I meet you in Leningrad and give you a comperhensive excursion over the city. And then - over Moscow too  :) I buy vodka anyway  :)
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Post by: Boroda on August 12, 2001, 08:50:00 PM
"Mikasa" is the only other Tsushima veteran still "alive"... But it's not afloat  ;)

I wish I could bend in honour for this flagship of Admiral Togo!

But it's too far from Moscow to Japan...

And I wish our Japanese friends to see a "Stereguschiy" destroyer memorial... I always bring flowers there every time I am in Leningrad.

 (http://www.home.axon.ru/~sinvent/memori/stereg/stereg.jpg)

They were the people of honour.

Salute!
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Post by: Dowding on August 13, 2001, 03:39:00 AM
I've been on board the Aurora, and I've got a framed model of it on my wall. For no other reason than it looks good.  :)

Like Karnak says, HMS Victory is the oldest commissioned warship in the world (it is still manned to this day).

Its keel was laid in 1759 and was retired from active combat service in 1812, although for the next 110 years it was used for a variety of roles before been restored and dry-docked.

It served under Vice Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson at Trafalgar and was also commanded by Admiral Lord Hood prior to that.

Info about Victory (http://www.hms-victory.com/)