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Title: a spitfire question
Post by: -ammo- on August 08, 2001, 09:40:00 PM

Should the seafire perform basically the same as the spit 5? If not and what are the major differences in its flight characteristics. I dont think it turns as well as the 5 for one thing

Title: a spitfire question
Post by: juzz on August 09, 2001, 01:40:00 AM

Seafire IIC had the same engine(Merlin 45) as the Spitfire VC.

But it would be heavier because of the catapult gear, tailhook, etc. needed for carrier operation.

It does climb a bit slower, so I guess this is modelled.

Now what would make things interesting would be if HTC instead modelled the Seafire L.III(the most produced variant by a large margin), which had a low altitude 1585HP Merlin 55M driving a four-blade prop - initial climbrate would go up to well over 4000fpm, making it a nice little TnB UFO.  :D

[ 08-09-2001: Message edited by: juzz ]

Title: a spitfire question
Post by: juzz on August 09, 2001, 02:06:00 AM

Found this page with good info on the Seafire. The Merlin 32 powered L.IIC version sounds good, 4600fpm!  :)
 http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/WWII/seafire/sea-info/sea_info.htm (http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/WWII/seafire/sea-info/sea_info.htm)

Title: a spitfire question
Post by: funkedup on August 09, 2001, 02:33:00 AM

Another cool one was the Seafire XV, with Griffon engine.  That one would be in the Ta 152 rarity/perk class though.

Title: a spitfire question
Post by: Seeker on August 09, 2001, 03:19:00 AM

Great site, Juzz, thanks.

Title: a spitfire question
Post by: Replicant on August 09, 2001, 10:41:00 AM

I find that the Seafire doesn't compress half as easy as the Spitfire V, hence why I fly the Seafire.  Much better for diving at high speed, though I can't understand why it's so different to the Spit V?  Perhaps everything is slightly tougher on it?

Regards

Nexx

Title: a spitfire question
Post by: Karnak on August 09, 2001, 06:25:00 PM

Early Seafire MkIIcs had the same engine as the Spitfire MkV, the Merlin 45.  The Seafire is strengthened to handle the naval equippment and the arrester hook and catapult gear.

Later Seafire MkIIcs, designated Seafire L.IIc,  had the Merlin 32, which provided more power at low level.  The Merlin 32 boosted the Seafire L.MkIIc's sea level speed to 316mph and its speed at 6,000ft to 335mph, the take off run was reduced and climbrate improved as well. The Seafire L.MkIIc also had a four bladed propeller, the only single stage Merlin Spitfire/Seafire to do so.

In AH we have the Seafire MkIIc with the Merlin 45.  It should perform slightly worse than the Spitfire MkV.  I suspect that, like the F4U-1D and F4U-1C, the Seafire MkIIc and Spitfire MkVb have the same FM in AH.

Title: a spitfire question
Post by: -ammo- on August 09, 2001, 07:36:00 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Karnak:
I suspect that, like the F4U-1D and F4U-1C, the Seafire MkIIc and Spitfire MkVb have the same FM in AH.

No way sisu, the spit5 will turn rings around the seafire

Title: a spitfire question
Post by: Hooligan on August 09, 2001, 07:49:00 PM

Probably the same FM but the seafire is significantly heavier.

Hooligan