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Title: new video card
Post by: TheZohan on March 27, 2009, 08:29:47 AM
they decided to refund my money instead of replacing my 9600 GSO . so i got this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131096

ATI 3850 .. you think its better then the 9600 GSO?
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: BaldEagl on March 27, 2009, 08:59:53 AM
You should have kept the 9600 GSO:

Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer NVIDIA
GPU GeForce 9600 GSO
Core clock 650MHz
Stream Processors 48
Memory
Memory Clock 1800MHz
Memory Size 512MB
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Type GDDR3


Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer ATI
GPU Radeon HD 3850
Core clock 668MHz
Stream Processors 320 Stream Processing Units
Memory
Memory Clock 1656MHz
Memory Size 512MB
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Type GDDR3
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 27, 2009, 09:00:50 AM
they decided to refund my money instead of replacing my 9600 GSO . so i got this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131096

ATI 3850 .. you think its better then the 9600 GSO?

If you already got it you will soon find out by yourself I guess. It's a mid-end card from 2 generations ago so it will run AH2 fine and choke on newer titles but probably still be playable.
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: TheZohan on March 27, 2009, 09:01:01 AM
my GSO was only 128-bit
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: Getback on March 27, 2009, 09:36:02 AM
I use that card. No issues in AH.
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: The Fugitive on March 27, 2009, 09:50:54 AM
they decided to refund my money instead of replacing my 9600 GSO . so i got this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131096

ATI 3850 .. you think its better then the 9600 GSO?


Your the expert, why ask us?   :D
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: Masherbrum on March 27, 2009, 01:37:40 PM

Your the expert, why ask us?   :D

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Title: Re: new video card
Post by: TheZohan on March 27, 2009, 01:48:00 PM
being a A+ certified tech doesnt make you a expert on the 100's of video cards available. i really hate to break it too ya. if you think that it does then your not as bright as your trying to make yourself be with the comment trying to poke at me. just cause its a 3850 doesnt mean its a stock 3850 as with any other card. there are many flavors of 3850's and as with the 9600 GSO's  i seen 5 different versions with different core speeds, memory sizes, and memory interfaces.  and usually i look online for scores that compair the two. be sometimes it good to ask about actually use in the field. which is why i asked.
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: Dragon on March 27, 2009, 03:09:32 PM

Snap
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: Shamus on March 27, 2009, 03:49:12 PM
http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: TheZohan on March 27, 2009, 05:27:40 PM
yeah i usually use that site too but again it doesnt account for the different flavors of each type .
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: Shamus on March 28, 2009, 12:24:20 PM
You can change the clock speeds to cover all the "flavors" you want
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: Fulmar on March 28, 2009, 06:03:36 PM
You can change the clock speeds to cover all the "flavors" you want
Yeah I didn't have a problem distinguishing the 8800 GTS flavors.
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: TheZohan on March 28, 2009, 09:40:23 PM
you did know the 8800 GTS is a 9600 GSO too
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: Masherbrum on March 28, 2009, 09:57:30 PM
you did know the 8800 GTS is a 9600 GSO too

No it isn't, you proved that.    I have an 8800GTS KO that has been nothing short of rock solid.   
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: Shamus on March 28, 2009, 10:18:28 PM

Your the expert, why ask us?   :D

I initially thought that the above response was a bit harsh...after further research I see that it was generous.

shamus 
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: Masherbrum on March 28, 2009, 10:20:38 PM
I initially thought that the above response was a bit harsh...after further research I see that it was generous.

shamus 

Stick around bro, this is entertainment.   It usually delivers as well.   
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: TheZohan on March 29, 2009, 12:18:48 AM
the 9600 GSO and the 8800 GTS use the same G92 chip (except a few flavors that use the newer G94 core) ..  i didnt prove anything other then that flavor of 9600 couldnt be modded to the 8800 GTS. and its the same reason why you can mod some 9600's GSO to 8800 GTS ..  if you knew 1/2 of what you where talking about you'd know this

and here is  the step by step proof of it being done

http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=610&pgno=1
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: Shamus on March 29, 2009, 01:30:55 AM
....and I soft-moded a ati 9500 to 9800 pro speeds......so what?.

My problem was not realizing that you were either a troll or an ignoramus.

shamus   
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: Masherbrum on March 29, 2009, 01:35:47 AM
the 9600 GSO and the 8800 GTS use the same G92 chip (except a few flavors that use the newer G94 core) ..  i didnt prove anything other then that flavor of 9600 couldnt be modded to the 8800 GTS. and its the same reason why you can mod some 9600's GSO to 8800 GTS ..  if you knew 1/2 of what you where talking about you'd know this

and here is  the step by step proof of it being done

http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=610&pgno=1

Most of us KNOW what we are talking about here.   But only one of us has sent a deliberately torpedoed 9600GSO back to the manufacturer.  
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: TheZohan on March 29, 2009, 11:42:04 AM
lol .. i never sent it back to the manufactor? i RMA'd back to newegg.. wow your wrong again.  thats twice.  what does that have to do with the point at hand. that the 9600 GSO is a rebranded 8800 GTS.

as far as the
the soft mod to 9500 to 9800 yes i know

http://www.techpowerup.com/softmod/faq.php
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: Masherbrum on March 29, 2009, 01:02:08 PM
lol .. i never sent it back to the manufactor? i RMA'd back to newegg.. wow your wrong again.  thats twice.  what does that have to do with the point at hand. that the 9600 GSO is a rebranded 8800 GTS.

as far as the
the soft mod to 9500 to 9800 yes i know

http://www.techpowerup.com/softmod/faq.php

It isn't a "rebranded 8800GTS", you sending a card back to "whoever" proves this.   
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: TheZohan on March 29, 2009, 07:27:36 PM
umm yes it is hate to break it too you.. its the same G92 core ...


http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2008/04/29/nvidia-introduces-geforce-9600-gso/1


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_9_Series#New_codename_scheme

Quote
It is worth noting that all of the GeForce 9 series is technically similar to the G92 GeForce 8 series (8800GT/GTS 512), except for the use of slightly higher rated and clocked video memory. Also in the 9800GTX+ and some 9800GT, a manufacturing processing shrink to 55nm was added. However the architecture of the G92 is identical, meaning clock for clock identical performance.[/qoute]
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 30, 2009, 02:14:07 PM
If you already got it you will soon find out by yourself I guess. It's a mid-end card from 2 generations ago so it will run AH2 fine and choke on newer titles but probably still be playable.

No troubles at all playing any new title with a ATI HD 3850 card.  Playing Far Cry 2 on settings maxed out FPS pegs at an average of 42fps.  In FEAR 2, settings all set to max, FPS pegs an average of 46fps.  Only game I get a big choke down on is Empire Total War when I have 2 armies of 1000 men or more facing off against each other.


ack-ack
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: Dragon on March 30, 2009, 02:48:08 PM
the 9600 GSO and the 8800 GTS use the same G92 chip (except a few flavors that use the newer G94 core) ..  i didnt prove anything other then that flavor of 9600 couldnt be modded to the 8800 GTS. and its the same reason why you can mod some 9600's GSO to 8800 GTS .. 



After licking several of the above VC's, I sent them all back cuz none of them tasted like Bacon.  In fact, all of the flavors tasted the same.  How disappointing.  :frown:
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: Masherbrum on March 30, 2009, 03:19:01 PM
After licking several of the above VC's, I sent them all back cuz none of them tasted like Bacon.  In fact, all of the flavors tasted the same.  How disappointing.  :frown:


 :rofl
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: TheZohan on March 31, 2009, 01:11:38 PM
i got my card today .. and i had ordered a 3850 and they sent me a 4850 instead.. i was like OMG!
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: mrcrog on April 08, 2009, 02:58:15 PM
am running the PNY 9600GSO w/768 DDR3 - it'll play crisis at 35+ FPS,1600x1200 at medium settings, COD4 45+FPS 1600x1200 max settings smooth as glass

AH2 uses less than 100mb of the 768 available, 1600x1200 all textures and details to max at 60fps

good card for the money and from what i can tell, overkill for AH -  paid about $80 for it, have seen it for $50
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: Krusty on April 09, 2009, 09:14:36 PM
You can't trust the "memory used" field, it does not ever display the memory used and the memory available. It's a DirectX flaw or something, so Skuzzy says. You will use more memory with higher texture resolution and with preloaded textures, etc.
Title: Re: new video card
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on April 10, 2009, 04:49:44 AM
No troubles at all playing any new title with a ATI HD 3850 card.  Playing Far Cry 2 on settings maxed out FPS pegs at an average of 42fps.  In FEAR 2, settings all set to max, FPS pegs an average of 46fps.  Only game I get a big choke down on is Empire Total War when I have 2 armies of 1000 men or more facing off against each other.


ack-ack

I guess you play 1024x768 then because even FEAR 1 didn't manage to run 46fps average at 1680x or 1920x on reviews of hd3850.