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Title: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: vipers on March 30, 2009, 02:37:27 PM
CARRIER AND LAND BASED SEA PLANES WITH ARMAMENT  :rock
Title: Re: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: Enker on March 30, 2009, 04:56:35 PM
Could we have more information as to why this would be a worthy addition to the already delicious game we have currently? I find your post...a bit lacking in the delicately phrased prose.
Title: Re: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: Spikes on March 30, 2009, 05:10:55 PM
CARRIER AND LAND BASED SEA PLANES WITH ARMAMENT  :rock

OH YEAH!!!!!!  :rock :rock :rock :rock




Not.
Title: Re: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: StokesAk on March 30, 2009, 05:22:10 PM
lmao
Title: Re: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: vipers on March 30, 2009, 07:06:59 PM
Could we have more information as to why this would be a worthy addition to the already delicious game we have currently? I find your post...a bit lacking in the delicately phrased prose.
The military value of flying boats was well recognized and every country bordering on water operated them in a military capacity at the outbreak of the war. They were utilized in various tasks from anti-submarine patrol to maritime search and rescue and gunfire spotting for battleships. Aircraft such as the PBY Catalina, Short Sunderland and Grumman Goose recovered downed airmen and operated as scout aircraft over the vast distances of the Pacific Theater and Battle of the Atlantic during World War II, as well as sinking numerous submarines, and finding enemy ships. The German battleship Bismarck was found during a routine patrol by a PBY Catalina.

The largest flying boat of the war was the Blohm und Voss Bv 238 which was also the heaviest plane to fly during the Second World War.


from wikipideia/google
Title: Re: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: Enker on March 30, 2009, 09:06:44 PM
The military value of flying boats was well recognized and every country bordering on water operated them in a military capacity at the outbreak of the war. They were utilized in various tasks from anti-submarine patrol to maritime search and rescue and gunfire spotting for battleships. Aircraft such as the PBY Catalina, Short Sunderland and Grumman Goose recovered downed airmen and operated as scout aircraft over the vast distances of the Pacific Theater and Battle of the Atlantic during World War II, as well as sinking numerous submarines, and finding enemy ships. The German battleship Bismarck was found during a routine patrol by a PBY Catalina.

The largest flying boat of the war was the Blohm und Voss Bv 238 which was also the heaviest plane to fly during the Second World War.


from wikipideia/google
May we have moar information? Such as weight, wing loading, and how to possible coad water landings in this game, as our current water is insufficient in the sense of having depth. Also, did you mean Wikipedia? I searched for wikipideia on Google and came up with a pornography site. Not a very reliable source of information my dozy muppet.  ;)

(Woo! Got to practice my British!)
Title: Re: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: vipers on March 31, 2009, 02:50:45 PM
May we have moar information? Such as weight, wing loading, and how to possible coad water landings in this game, as our current water is insufficient in the sense of having depth. Also, did you mean Wikipedia? I searched for wikipideia on Google and came up with a pornography site. Not a very reliable source of information my dozy muppet.  ;)

(Woo! Got to practice my British!)

yes i did mean that, weapons on a sea plane like a Catalina could be equipped with depth charges, bombs, torpedoes
and a defensive armament of 5 M2 Browning machine guns and 2 20MM cannons in the nose.yes it does have  landing gear also you need at least 20-15 ft of water
Title: Re: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: AWwrgwy on March 31, 2009, 03:01:14 PM
The only cannon equipped Cats were field mods flown by the Black Cats.  Even the 5 .50s seem a bit on the optimistic side.  More like one or two .30s in a nose turret, 2 .50s in the waist and another .30 in the tail tunnel.

Until the ability to actually land on the water is coaded, there is no need for a sea plane.  Otherwise, another slow bomber would make an excellent target.


wrongway
Title: Re: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: vipers on March 31, 2009, 04:26:50 PM
The only cannon equipped Cats were field mods flown by the Black Cats.  Even the 5 .50s seem a bit on the optimistic side.  More like one or two .30s in a nose turret, 2 .50s in the waist and another .30 in the tail tunnel.

Until the ability to actually land on the water is coaded, there is no need for a sea plane.  Otherwise, another slow bomber would make an excellent target.


wrongway

canadian and the britts had the black cat armaments
Title: Re: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: StokesAk on March 31, 2009, 04:36:16 PM
A6M2,A6M5b,B5N2,F4U-1,F4U1-A,F4U1-D,F4U1-C,F4U-4,TBM,SBD,Seafire,D3A1
Title: Re: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: Lye-El on March 31, 2009, 05:18:49 PM
They were utilized in various tasks from anti-submarine patrol to maritime search and rescue and gunfire spotting for battleships. <snip> recovered downed airmen and operated as scout aircraft over the vast distances of the Pacific Theater and Battle of the Atlantic during World War II, as well as sinking numerous submarines, and finding enemy ships.

No subs to patrol for. No SAR operations. Downed airmen end flight and get a new plane. You can scout and find enemy ships with planes we already have. No subs to sink.

Sure you wouldn't like a nice B-29 with a Nuke instead.............
Title: Re: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: AWwrgwy on March 31, 2009, 05:48:58 PM
canadian and the britts had the black cat armaments


I hear the  Mon Calamari had the same armaments om their Catalina's too.    :rofl


Documentation?  Did you "read" it somewhere?



wrongway
Title: Re: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: frank3 on April 01, 2009, 09:46:13 AM
To simulate having sea-planes, you could always ditch something like an SBD on the water.

The downside is you can only do it once though...
Title: Re: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: Enker on April 01, 2009, 03:00:00 PM
To simulate having sea-planes, you could always ditch something like an SBD on the water.

The downside is you can only do it once though...
Plus it doesn't sink. Well, unless you ditch it in front of a CV...
Title: Re: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 01, 2009, 04:54:56 PM
Plus it doesn't sink. Well, unless you ditch it in front of a CV...

Nope.  Still doesn't sink.  CV just pushes you along.


wrongway
Title: Re: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: shotgunneeley on April 01, 2009, 10:26:17 PM
reconnaissance planes could have a radar system (albeit half the radius of a field dar) that displays enemy cons to the country as long as the recon plane is alive. could make it so where the pilot has only a certain amount of time he/she can broadcast the radar. (i.e. you have 500 seconds of radar time and you pull the trigger to engage it). Once its gone, its gone, unless the pilot rearms.

Not sure how historically accurate this would be as I don't know of any recon planes like the PBY Catalina or Piper Grasshopper being able to carry a radar system. I know the Germans had a variation of the AR234 that had an on board radar system, but that's all I know.

Title: Re: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: phatzo on April 02, 2009, 12:17:36 AM
the radar idea and search plane has some merit it could operate like a field radar relaying that information to any player of your chess piece to see your dar ring on the clipboard. If you wanted to find a cv that was upping aircraft it could be very useful. Ships could even show up on its dar. This would in some way simulate RL intelligence reports. You could even give it an enigma decoder so we could find out what the bish are up to!! :rock
Title: Re: SEA PLANES PBY-CATALINA or KINGFISHER
Post by: vipers on April 02, 2009, 06:46:11 AM
Nope.  Still doesn't sink.  CV just pushes you along.


wrongway

there slow aircraft so they cant out run any fighter