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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: oakranger on March 31, 2009, 01:21:22 AM
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So, i was watching this show about what the last 140 year look like is the the south won the American Civil War. WOW!
blacks will remand slave up to now.
Native Americans Indians got treated a lot worst then they where originally.
We invade South America around 1900
Support The Nazi Government and had Hitler at the white House.
Oh, we attack Japan and whiped them out.
We hated Canadians, that not change even now.
Southern Bapits seemed to be the most domitaed religion
Man, i am glad that the Union won. I would hate to be a under the Confederated State or America.
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If I could understand your post.... I would agree or disagree.
But, I guess...
Huked un fonics dndn werk fur me
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If I could understand your post.... I would agree or disagree.
But, I guess...
Huked un fonics dndn werk fur me
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Without seeing it, and not entirely sure what you typed, I'd have some doubts about some of that "alternate history"
wrongway
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He means, what the last 140 years would have looked like if the South had actually won the Civil War.
Oddly enough, I live in a Pro-Union county of Texas (at the time)
Williamson County was marked by political divisions during the secession crisis, divisions that were carried over into the Civil War and Reconstruction.qv Unionist sentiment was strong in the county, and a resolution denouncing secession was adopted by a Texas Constitutional Union partyqv meeting in Round Rock in 1860.
Here's the Civil War Murder of 8 men, 3 or 4 from Georgetown during the Civil War. Their relatives lived in the Georgetown Area till the 1980s as far as I am aware of. The Sawyer Cemetery isn't on a map anymore though, but it wasn't covered by Lake Georgetown. (May be on the Corps of Engineers property though)
In July 1863 eight Williamson County men were caught by Confederate troops while traveling to Mexico and were hung near Bandera, Texas, and other Unionists were persecuted during the war.
http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/WW/hcw11.html
This doesn't really show too much about the detail, but chances are, if you just search "Sawyer Massacre, Civil War" you can definitely find a little bit more information. (Locals call it a Massacre, but others may call it just a "hanging", in the book about Williamson County, "Land of Goodwater", it has a lot of information on the subject.
Edit: After a quick search, I found a lil more information on the subject:
http://www.texasescapes.com/TexasHistory/TexasHistoricTrees/Bandera/BanderaTragedyTree.htm
Also found the letter to the editor from one of the G-G-Grandkids.
Dear Editor, Your article suggests that the men hanged outside of Bandera TX, in July of 1863, were going to Mexico to avoid conscription into the Confederate Army. I would like to point out that records indicate at least two of the men were in the [Confederate] army and on a forty-day pass.
William M. Sawyer, my paternal great, great, grandfather, had enlisted in the Confederate Army July 8, 1862, in Gurly's Regiment, Co. D, Texas Partisans of the Texas Cavalry (later designated the 30th Texas Cavalry, C.S.A) His brother, Coston J. Sawyer was also in the Texas Cavalry, Co. A, of Morgans Squadron.
These men in no way [were] guilty of any wrongdoing. They willingly gave up their arms and agreed to accompany Major Anderson to Camp Verde, but were murdered enroute.
Your article also fails to note that on April 24, 1866 the State of Texas indicted Major Anderson for murder and highway robbery. Major Anderson had of course long since disappeared.
- Sincerely, Jason Sawyer, December 08, 2003
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Harry Turtledoves "Timeline 191" version is much more believable. And coherent.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,259370.0.html
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So, i was watching this show about what the last 140 year look like is the the south won the American Civil War. WOW!
blacks will remand slave up to now.
Native Americans Indians got treated a lot worst then they where originally.
We invade South America around 1900
Support The Nazi Government and had Hitler at the white House.
Oh, we attack Japan and whiped them out.
We hated Canadians, that not change even now.
Southern Bapits seemed to be the most domitaed religion
Man, i am glad that the Union won. I would hate to be a under the Confederated State or America.
What is this show that you speak of in broken english terms and who were the idiots that wrote it? I might be interested in finding out more.
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And here I opened this thread expecting to see some nice pictures of community supported agriculture....
Acronym fail. (I went to insert an acronym fail picture, but every one I found would have me Skuzzified in a heartbeat :( )
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Huked un fonics dndn werk fur me
Phonics isn't even taught in schools anymore. It is all sight reading.
Haven't seent his show yet. Not sur eif I would watch it, but all of the claims are guesstimates at best. No telling what would or would not have happened.
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What is this show that you speak of in broken english terms and who were the idiots that wrote it? I might be interested in finding out more.
The idiot that wrote it is Spike Lee and it's called Confederate States of America.
It's actually pretty funny.
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Spike Lee? Really? Bwah hahahahahahahahahahaha that is the funny as hell.
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He means, what the last 140 years would have looked like if the South had actually won the Civil War.
Oddly enough, I live in a Pro-Union county of Texas (at the time)
Here's the Civil War Murder of 8 men, 3 or 4 from Georgetown during the Civil War. Their relatives lived in the Georgetown Area till the 1980s as far as I am aware of. The Sawyer Cemetery isn't on a map anymore though, but it wasn't covered by Lake Georgetown. (May be on the Corps of Engineers property though)
http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/WW/hcw11.html
This doesn't really show too much about the detail, but chances are, if you just search "Sawyer Massacre, Civil War" you can definitely find a little bit more information. (Locals call it a Massacre, but others may call it just a "hanging", in the book about Williamson County, "Land of Goodwater", it has a lot of information on the subject.
Edit: After a quick search, I found a lil more information on the subject:
http://www.texasescapes.com/TexasHistory/TexasHistoricTrees/Bandera/BanderaTragedyTree.htm
Also found the letter to the editor from one of the G-G-Grandkids.
bottom of that page
You can't beat Missouri for "the civil war within the Civil War" infighting. Especially with characters like the James brothers running around. To say the situation here was unique would be an understatement.
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The idiot that wrote it is Spike Lee and it's called Confederate States of America.
It's actually pretty funny.
Spike lee wrote that? HA
Now i quesion it. Really, how would the last 140 year look like for is country if the south did won the war?
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actually is was written and directed by Kevin Willmont. He is a film professor at KU. I remember when it first came out i was in college there and they had some screenings of it on campus. I thought it was an interesting movie, but i always liked the what if this major event had gone differently style of movie. They show it on IFC sometimes. I think it is worth at least one watching if you like history at all. I would like to have seen what it could have been if it had had a real budget behind it. I think it was pretty well written but you can tell they had low budget actors which detracted from the movie to a degree.
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Whenever I've been down south I've seen rebel flags and bumper stickers that proclaim the south shall rise again so it could still happen...
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What is this show that you speak of in broken english terms and who were the idiots that wrote it? I might be interested in finding out more.
Confederate States of America is the name of the what-if documentary.
ack-ack
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IMDB categorizes it as Comedy/Drama.
That says a lot for "accuracy" I suppose.
Just the little info I read on there, the first question it raises is, why would what's left of the Union cease to exist if the South was successful in gaining it's independence? It is like Great Britain ceasing to exist after the Revolutionary War.
I'll have to see if I can find it somewhere and watch it.
wrongway
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actually is was written and directed by Kevin Willmont. He is a film professor at KU. I remember when it first came out i was in college there and they had some screenings of it on campus. I thought it was an interesting movie, but i always liked the what if this major event had gone differently style of movie. They show it on IFC sometimes. I think it is worth at least one watching if you like history at all. I would like to have seen what it could have been if it had had a real budget behind it. I think it was pretty well written but you can tell they had low budget actors which detracted from the movie to a degree.
You went to KU. i sorry to hear that.
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Thanks homies!