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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: frank3 on March 31, 2009, 06:14:19 AM
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What does NOE stand for and why is it generally frowned upon?
I assume it must be some kind of raid with lots of people involved, but I still can't figure out what's so bad about it?
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Nap Of the Earth
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Its nice to catch a n.o.e. raid of 110's and stuff, nothing at all wrong with those. :rock
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Its nice to catch a n.o.e. raid of 110's and stuff, nothing at all wrong with those. :rock
I agree, its one of my favorite things to up against.(CV raids are fun too)
Lots of targets on the deck, quick up and fight scenario.
Way more fun than having to climb to 15/20k only to find the usual hit and run punkstang,190,tempest and Chogs.
I think they are both fun to fly in, and against.
Unfortunatly there are a couple guys in here that don't care for NOE raids.
They'll be along shortly.
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What does NOE stand for and why is it generally frowned upon?
I assume it must be some kind of raid with lots of people involved, but I still can't figure out what's so bad about it?
NOE missions are not frowned upon at all.
Doing pretty much only NOE missions in large numbers vs. undefended and isolated fields is frowned upon.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nap-of-the-earth
Also sometimes Nape of the Earth
http://www.wdisf.com/NOE-stands-for-nape-of-the-earth.htm
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Nape+of+the+earth
Basically NOE means flying below radar alt so that you create no radar bar in the sector and reveal no radar dots.
When the NOE mission approaches an enemy base it still cannot help the base flashing. Thus a flashing base with a working radar may indicate either enemy GVs or a NOE mission approaching.
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What does NOE stand for and why is it generally frowned upon?
I assume it must be some kind of raid with lots of people involved, but I still can't figure out what's so bad about it?
WMLute has it right, and for those BISH with poor reading skills THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH NOE MISSIONS, other than they are over used. The newer generation of players see the NOE as an easy way to capture a base. With 5 guys and a good route into a field almost any base can be taken. With a horde of 25 or more it is completely unstopable, even if the 25 people are all first week newbies.
NOE missions have their place and can be great as diversionary tactics. Unfortunately they have become the "norm" for unskilled players with no imagination.
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Way more fun than having to climb to 15/20k only to find the usual hit and run punkstang,190,tempest and Chogs.
Isn't that the truth!
Even on the otherside of the coin, I kind of enjoy flying NOE. It's fun to fly tree top level to get somewhere.
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...why is it generally frowned upon?
Its a matter of gameplay preference.
Players in AH generally break into two groups:
1.) Those who go looking for a fight.
2.) Those who try to avoid a fight.
There is nothing wrong with NOE missions in and of themselves and, in many cases, they are the tactic of choice when you wish to take a base.
However, by their very nature, they are designed to elude enemy detection and, thus, are more focused on avoiding a fight than creating one.
While this makes perfect sense from a tactical standpoint, some members of the community feel as though it defeats the purpose of logging in in the first place.
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I'd rather divide AH players into:
1) those who whine about how other people play
2) those who adapt to the chaotic and versatile game environment and create their own fun for themselves
I wish there were more of the latter type :pray
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I'd rather divide AH players into:
1) those who whine about how other people play
2) those who adapt to the chaotic and versatile game environment and create their own fun for themselves
I wish there were more of the latter type :pray
Now this man truely gets it! <S> all wise one!
All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1
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I wish there were more of the latter type :pray
Ill keep my fingers crossed for you.
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No One Ever lives.
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get it right........
1. Base Takers: who like working as a team or squad
2. Furballers: who just like to mix it up
3. loners: who thrive on the 1v1 fight
And its there $15.00 so what ever floats there boat :aok with me.
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WMLute has it right, and for those BISH with poor reading skills THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH NOE MISSIONS, other than they are over used.
Unfortunately they have become the "norm" for unskilled players with no imagination.
2 THINGS: 1. Bish? -- You aren't seriously insinuating the "Bish" are the only ones with poor interpretive skills are you??
2. Unskilled? -- Well thats just plain funny. I love how that word is thrown around in here by the usual "skilled" egomaniacs.
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get it right........
1. Base Takers: who like working as a team or squad
2. Furballers: who just like to mix it up
3. loners: who thrive on the 1v1 fight
And its there $15.00 so what ever floats there boat :aok with me.
The best post so far this year :aok
ROX
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I totally agree with BlauK on this one. :cool:
Been playing all manner of online games since the advent of the computer and internet and LAN. My experince has been that his breakdown of the gaming community is pretty accurate now and as it was way back in the beginning. I think it will always be that way. :O
My experience with the community of all these games has been that more players than not tend to adapt to the reality of what is and isnt done in a game and just try to :cool: have some fun with it all. But life has taught me that no matter where I go there is always going to be that 10% that just cant get along with the program and will be troublemakers for the rest of us. Unfortunately that small portion of the community is so much in your face about everything that they seem at time to be the majority. :O
My advice to anybody playing any game is just have fun and try not to be part of the PowerWhining 10% if you can help it. :cool:
IMHO NOE missions are fun just like playing any other aspect of this game is fun if you let it be. Some are a bit more challenging than others. :cool:
Later,
KayBay
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Thanks for the replies guys, I get it now. Sounds like a blast to be under a NOE's path with a few Wirbels :D
But are there ever any high-altitude missions? (at least above 3k?)
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Thanks for the replies guys, I get it now. Sounds like a blast to be under a NOE's path with a few Wirbels :D
But are there ever any high-altitude missions? (at least above 3k?)
if there were, they wouldnt be called NOE
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But are there ever any high-altitude missions? (at least above 3k?)
Almost sig material.
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WMLute has it right, and for those BISH with poor reading skills THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH NOE MISSIONS, other than they are over used. The newer generation of players see the NOE as an easy way to capture a base. With 5 guys and a good route into a field almost any base can be taken. With a horde of 25 or more it is completely unstopable, even if the 25 people are all first week newbies.
NOE missions have their place and can be great as diversionary tactics. Unfortunately they have become the "norm" for unskilled players with no imagination.
:rofl :rofl Life must be tough for you when things just dont go your way....
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Its a matter of gameplay preference.
Players in AH generally break into two groups:
1.) Those who go looking for a fight.
2.) Those who try to avoid a fight.
There is nothing wrong with NOE missions in and of themselves and, in many cases, they are the tactic of choice when you wish to take a base.
However, by their very nature, they are designed to elude enemy detection and, thus, are more focused on avoiding a fight than creating one.
While this makes perfect sense from a tactical standpoint, some members of the community feel as though it defeats the purpose of logging in in the first place.
Correction:
1.) those who HO
2.) those who do not HO but whine about it.
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I dont like them. The sneaky stuff I dont like. If taking a base was as easy as typing "I want A24" in the text buffer, some would do that rather than fight for it.
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get it right........
1. Base Takers: who like working as a team or squad
2. Furballers: who just like to mix it up
3. loners: who thrive on the 1v1 fight
And its there $15.00 so what ever floats there boat :aok with me.
well said :aok
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flying on teh deck with all you're allies around you is great fun. then just pop up over the blow the hell out the base. ohhhhhhhhhh the fun
havent done one for a while though. i like useing the mossy on the low lvl stuff.