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Title: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: RoGenT on April 04, 2009, 04:04:12 PM
I don't recall anyone ever posting this video on here before, and hopefully skuzzy doesn't mind me posting in here since this section is the most active.  The pilot escaped but what a waste to beautiful and historic plane


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c63_1238792931
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: TwinBoom on April 04, 2009, 05:03:43 PM
Reno
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: Widewing on April 04, 2009, 05:44:12 PM
Oil fires like he had can usually be blown out... Assuming you have the sand to nose it over and dive; and do so before the fire burns off the elevator fabric.

Notice that the fire extinguished as the F4U picked up speed in the dive.

This guy did the smart thing.


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: Banshee7 on April 04, 2009, 06:13:18 PM
I kinda feel bad for the guy...now he has to pay another couple Million to get another one
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: Karnak on April 04, 2009, 06:36:42 PM
Glad the pilot made it out.
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: daddog on April 04, 2009, 06:38:57 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: SEraider on April 04, 2009, 07:33:56 PM
I kinda feel bad for the guy...now he has to pay another couple Million to get another one
 

He has insurance.  That's manditory i understand.
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: Motherland on April 04, 2009, 07:39:29 PM
Wow, that's terrible.
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: Guppy35 on April 04, 2009, 08:04:26 PM
One request.  If it's old film, say it.  I thought it was today.  That was a heavily modified Corsair, but not the Super Corsair F2G.  There is one of those flying and I thought that was the bird in question.  Had me worried we'd lost another :(
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: crazyivan on April 04, 2009, 08:47:58 PM
Now I know what my cartoon plane would look like in RL. Yes, glad to see the pilot got out.
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: CAP1 on April 04, 2009, 09:18:00 PM
One request.  If it's old film, say it.  I thought it was today.  That was a heavily modified Corsair, but not the Super Corsair F2G.  There is one of those flying and I thought that was the bird in question.  Had me worried we'd lost another :(

we lost a tbm avenger here in new jersey last month. on a test flight, the pilot heard a "bang", the fire....he managed to turn the plane back, and land it, but there was no fd on millville airport....so it still burned to the ground. it was one i had seen in airshows at mcguire afb. was a beautiful aircraft. the pilot got out with burns on his chest and hands, otherwise ok.
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: thndregg on April 04, 2009, 09:18:10 PM
 :( :salute
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: RoGenT on April 04, 2009, 09:33:27 PM
As you could tell from the video, there wasn't much detail about when it happened, and where, although Twinboom has said Reno. I just came across it today so i don't know if it has been there for while or just recently.
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: Shuffler on April 04, 2009, 10:54:41 PM
It's old I saw it about a year a go.
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: RoGenT on April 05, 2009, 01:08:20 AM
It's old I saw it about a year a go.


Ah okay. I go to liveleak all the time but this was first time I saw it so I thought maybe it was more recent.
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: colmbo on April 05, 2009, 01:24:08 AM
Wasn't that one in Phoenix...several years ago?
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: oakranger on April 05, 2009, 02:04:07 AM
Ah crap.  Hate to see that happen.  Wish it was N. Korea missle instead a WWII A/C that crashed
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: harry1 on April 05, 2009, 08:32:11 AM
 So,,,,, in real life the pilot bailed.

 Thats just wrong. He shoulda kept flying around until he kilt the other guy and then kilt ords at the base.
 Guess he didnt think he could get a fresh plane from the hanger after the fire blew up his ride.
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: xtyger on April 05, 2009, 10:11:40 AM
Well, it I suppose it goes to show planes can stay on fire longer than I thought. I've always felt planes in the game were allowed to burn too long before breaking up. Maybe not?
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: JunkyII on April 05, 2009, 10:22:25 AM
Ah crap.  Hate to see that happen.  Wish it was N. Korea missle instead a WWII A/C that crashed
LOL N koreas missle didnt get Sat in to orbit its a ICBM :salute
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: BansheCH on April 05, 2009, 10:38:36 AM
Oil fires like he had can usually be blown out... Assuming you have the sand to nose it over and dive; and do so before the fire burns off the elevator fabric.

Notice that the fire extinguished as the F4U picked up speed in the dive.

This guy did the smart thing.


My regards,

Widewing


I agree. He didn't have much of a choice but to ditch. Bummer about the plane.  :(
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: Tr1gg22 on April 05, 2009, 03:04:12 PM
I don't recall anyone ever posting this video on here before, and hopefully skuzzy doesn't mind me posting in here since this section is the most active.  The pilot escaped but what a waste to beautiful and historic plane


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c63_1238792931

they have a lot of cool vids on that site :aok Did anyone check out helicopter hell?
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: Tr1gg22 on April 05, 2009, 03:05:25 PM

I agree. He didn't have much of a choice but to ditch. Bummer about the plane.  :(
I no it was crazy he did not fly around for 5 minutes  :noid
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: Bodhi on April 05, 2009, 03:08:09 PM
 

He has insurance.  That's manditory i understand.

liability insurance is.  hull is not.
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: Guppy35 on April 05, 2009, 03:09:46 PM
Wasn't that Steve Hinton flying that bird?
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: Masherbrum on April 05, 2009, 03:16:00 PM
we lost a tbm avenger here in new jersey last month. on a test flight, the pilot heard a "bang", the fire....he managed to turn the plane back, and land it, but there was no fd on millville airport....so it still burned to the ground. it was one i had seen in airshows at mcguire afb. was a beautiful aircraft. the pilot got out with burns on his chest and hands, otherwise ok.

I believe I saw this at the Thunder over Michigan Airshow last year.    :salute
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: CAP1 on April 05, 2009, 05:17:13 PM
Wasn't that Steve Hinton flying that bird?

not sure about that, but wasn't he flying the red baron in one of the races when the gearbox siezed?
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: ImMoreBetter on April 05, 2009, 09:01:48 PM
http://www.warbirdaeropress.com/articles/bail_out.html (http://www.warbirdaeropress.com/articles/bail_out.html)

Bit more info.
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: ROX on April 07, 2009, 10:24:15 AM
As a kid growing up, I lived a half mile from the Waukegan Airport (IL).  There was a guy who was a big corporate VP in Chicago who collected WWII warbirds.  He had a Corsair and would take it up on sunny-non windy weekends.  It was LOUD.  I could always distinguish it when it took off.

He also rented it out to the film industry and they used it to film the tv show Baa-Baa-Black Sheep.



ROX
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: CAP1 on April 07, 2009, 11:13:52 AM
As a kid growing up, I lived a half mile from the Waukegan Airport (IL).  There was a guy who was a big corporate VP in Chicago who collected WWII warbirds.  He had a Corsair and would take it up on sunny-non windy weekends.  It was LOUD.  I could always distinguish it when it took off.

He also rented it out to the film industry and they used it to film the tv show Baa-Baa-Black Sheep.



ROX

yep...radial engines have a music all their own. the guy that owned the tbm i mentioned earlier, also has a b25, and a corsair. a couple ears ago, when he first bought the corsair, he flew it right over my shop....only about 1,000 to 1500 ft or so. was a beautiful sight.
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: ROX on April 07, 2009, 04:28:10 PM
This sucker would ROAR--I excrete you not!  I could hear it revving up before take off and roaring into the air.  I would scramble to my window and watch it take off.  He would do numerous touch and goes and then make a big slow arc over Lake Michigan and come in and land.  It was a wonderful sight for a kid growing up loving history and flight!   :aok

Sadly, after the TV show was over he got the plane back and only flew it a few summer and fall weekends before hangaring it.  He bought a Spitfire (or was it a Hurricane?) and had it shipped over.  Pretty expensive investment. 

On British birds the airscrew (evidently) rotates opposite of US birds so the engine torque is just the oposite, tragically, he did not take it into consideration and pushed and ruddered the wrong way and flipped the bird over and crashed on takeoff and died.

I think his estate sold off the corsair after he died.

Sad story, really.
   :frown:

ROX
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: Angus on April 07, 2009, 04:48:09 PM
Whooa. Well, he had just about the altitude to bail. Ans slowing down for an emergency landing would have meant a fireball I guess. Must have been a dreadful 10 seconds to the guy.  :salute
Title: Re: Corsair crash at airshow
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 07, 2009, 09:32:39 PM
Whooa. Well, he had just about the altitude to bail. Ans slowing down for an emergency landing would have meant a fireball I guess. Must have been a dreadful 10 seconds to the guy.  :salute

His crew told him to bail.  The chase plane told him to bail.   His foot got stuck between the seat and cockpit side getting out.  The plane trim was set for 450mph racing, not 200mph bailing out and it kept rolling to the right. 

It sounds like he hit the tail getting out.  Broke his leg and arm, messed up two vertebrae, whacked his head and lost his helmet.  The chute barely hung together.

He is lucky to be walking as well as being alive.

 :salute

As for the plane, it is my understanding that a data plate "counts" as a warbird.  So, if the rebuilt it from the ground up with the original data plate, it would be a "real" Corsair versus a replica.

I always wondered if the parachutes were anything more than wishful thinking, "just in case".  I guess they aren't.


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