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Title: Aircraft weapon elevation
Post by: SKYGUNS on April 06, 2009, 09:43:11 PM
On some of the aircraft, 110 for example, Just like you have weapon converage i wish for weapon elevation. Done on bomber interceptors so they can fly under bombers without belly defence and take them out without having the trouble of the tail gunner. I'm sure the Japanese done the same thing.
Title: Re: Aircraft weapon elevation
Post by: FYB on April 06, 2009, 09:46:46 PM
On some of the aircraft, 110 for example, Just like you have weapon converage i wish for weapon elevation. Done on bomber interceptors so they can fly under bombers without belly defence and take them out without having the trouble of the tail gunner. I'm sure the Japanese done the same thing.
You mean Japanese...

-FYB
Title: Re: Aircraft weapon elevation
Post by: Karnak on April 06, 2009, 09:52:30 PM
Sounds like you are talking about Schragg Musik, guns fixed to fire forward and up at a 45 degree angle.  Yes, the Japanese used it too, but we have no German or Japanese aircraft in AH that were equipped with it at this time.  Some Bf110s were, but not G-2s to the best of my knowledge.
Title: Re: Aircraft weapon elevation
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 06, 2009, 09:57:44 PM
Night Fighters, not Bomber interceptors.

Schräge Musik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%A4ge_Musik)  (yay wiki!!  ;))

Otherwise, convergence distance = weapon elevation.  The further out convergence is, the higher the weapon fires close in so as to make all the bullets come together straight and level that far out.  

Not as much elevation as you are looking for, however.


wrongway
Title: Re: Aircraft weapon elevation
Post by: B4Buster on April 06, 2009, 10:04:05 PM
guns fixed to fire forward and up at a 45 degree angle. 

Wow...I didn't know some were elevated that much. Thanks for the info

Title: Re: Aircraft weapon elevation
Post by: Lusche on April 06, 2009, 10:06:58 PM
Actually the typical angle was 70° for Schräge Musik, not 45°. Was used on nightfighters exclusively.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Schragemusik.jpg)

And even in that role it would be less efficient in AH due to lag.

Title: Re: Aircraft weapon elevation
Post by: StokesAk on April 06, 2009, 10:13:35 PM
If your in a 110 just climb up to them and pop them.  :P
Title: Re: Aircraft weapon elevation
Post by: ImMoreBetter on April 06, 2009, 10:38:39 PM
(http://www.indianamilitary.org/FreemanAAF/Aircraft%20-%20Japanese/AirPower%20Jan75/5.jpg)

(http://www.geocities.jp/torikai016/ki61/gwp-ki-45-7.jpg)

(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/genkideskan/Japan/Ho%20204/DinahHo2042.jpg)

Ki-45

Title: Re: Aircraft weapon elevation
Post by: Karnak on April 06, 2009, 11:36:53 PM
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/genkideskan/Japan/Ho%20204/DinahHo2042.jpg)
That is a Ki-46, not a Ki-45.
Title: Re: Aircraft weapon elevation
Post by: ImMoreBetter on April 07, 2009, 12:10:42 AM
That is a Ki-46, not a Ki-45.

Indeed, thank you.
Title: Re: Aircraft weapon elevation
Post by: moot on April 07, 2009, 09:22:35 AM
Why would lag affect slanted guns any differently than fwd facing ones?
Title: Re: Aircraft weapon elevation
Post by: Lusche on April 07, 2009, 09:29:56 AM
Why would lag affect slanted guns any differently than fwd facing ones?

It wouldn't affect the guns as such.

But while perfectly under the Lanc on your screen, you may l be far enough behind the Lanc player on his screen, so that he still is able to get me with the tail gun.


(http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9403/bellylagp.jpg)


Being an european player with a higher lag, I was often hit by Lanc tail guns during belly attacks that seemed to be impossible on my front end for that very reason.


Title: Re: Aircraft weapon elevation
Post by: Cthulhu on April 07, 2009, 09:32:59 AM
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/genkideskan/Japan/Ho%20204/DinahHo2042.jpg)
That is a Ki-46, not a Ki-45.
Didn't know the Japanese ever did that with a Dinah. Still a gorgeous airplane, even "impalled" with that 37mm.