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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Yarbles on April 07, 2009, 08:22:00 AM
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Why dont more people fly in it ?
What are its deficiencies and how could it be improved.
I personally think it needs more early war bombers.
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The reasons why I stopped flying AvA
Settings
People/Attitudes
Population miminum to none at my prime time.
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I guess you don't read the threads in the AvA forum. :lol
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I do :)
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See Rule #4
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I do :)
My comment was directed at the OP.
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But fear not, they are asking for terrain skinners.
That way there can be even MORE maps in rotation that nobody will use. :aok
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But fear not, they are asking for terrain skinners.
That way there can be even MORE maps in rotation that nobody will use. :aok
:rofl
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I think that perhaps each theme is limited in use of craft. I think most of us got used to playin gwith a full arsenal of aircraft so getting people to go from a full menu to a kids menu is a problem.
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I think that perhaps each theme is limited in use of craft. I think most of us got used to playin gwith a full arsenal of aircraft so getting people to go from a full menu to a kids menu is a problem.
Throw that man a fish. This is the fundamental population restriction on all AvA arenas.
- oldman
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its a good fun arena, the number are low and the aircraft are limited. if you want to learn acm thats the place. there alot of good people in there, and a few less "experienced" ones. tactics can be different at times. civility is encouraged although it doest happen all the time. give it a try.
a certain group has been refraining from going in there, so that those nay-sayers you see above, can enjoy the place too. not that they will stay out forever, just limiting time there.
if you want to have fun and try something different, try the AVA. half the fun is learning to fly planes you're not used to. this makes it that much more interesting. just remember the real pilots in WW2 didnt have the luxury of flying what they wanted. they were assigned to a plane and had to learn to survive. this is what makes the AVA fun!
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There are a few dedicated AVA devs that are trying to incorporate events for all kinds of drivers. Things look promising in there.
:salute
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Throw that man a fish. This is the fundamental population restriction on all AvA arenas.
- oldman
<intercepts fish>
Some of us already play the game, using a limited plane set, in the Main Arena.
It might not be just the menu.
Perhaps someone saw a cockroach in the kitchen?
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<intercepts fish>
Some of us already play the game, using a limited plane set, in the Main Arena.
It might not be just the menu.
Perhaps someone saw a cockroach in the kitchen?
Oh, there's more than one. :aok Damn good analogy too.
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The reasons why I stopped flying AvA
Settings
People/Attitudes
Population miminum to none at my prime time.
QFT
There was a good run of time with 15+ people on weeknights but I have seen it empty most of the time recently.
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Its because the super leet MA gods go in there and get beat up because they cant handle fighting people with skill. Simple as that.
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:rofl
good one! Besides you I didn't run into anyone that really gave much trouble. So are you saying everyone is just avoiding you?
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For me, mostly I dont fly in the AVA arena because the population is too low. I do participate in missions and events on occasion that players setup in there. But as a norm low population is why I dont fly in there. When I am online usualy zero players in there. On the weekends is when I see it used most but rarely more than 5 or 6 in there.
Later,
KayBay
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:rofl
good one! Besides you I didn't run into anyone that really gave much trouble. So are you saying everyone is just avoiding you?
No there are many sticks in the AvA that the MA gods cant handle.
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Its because the super leet MA gods go in there and get beat up because they cant handle fighting people with skill. Simple as that.
You've never had skill. Even more simple.
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everytime ive been in there when populated was nothing vulchers,yeah thats skill
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You've never had skill. Even more simple.
See here is an example of one of the MA gods that got beat up now he just trash talks on the BBS where his ego is safe.
everytime ive been in there when populated was nothing vulchers,yeah thats skill
Unless you are a shade, which it seems you are, "danny37" has never flown in the AvA.
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I flew in the AVA a year or so ago religiously. What I found is that while I was willing to accept the plane restrictions in place for historical accuracy, most griped and complained about the disparities between planes sets. My feeling is that most enjoy to fly what they want when they want, so the AVA has little or no use because of this.
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See here is an example of one of the MA gods that got beat up not he just trash talks on the BBS where his ego is safe.
Unless you are a shade, which it seems you are, "danny37" has never flown in the AvA.
like you,i dont go by the same name in th BB as in game,try again
danny37 aka kidky
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See here is an example of one of the MA gods that got beat up now he just trash talks on the BBS where his ego is safe.
In your eyes only Larry. The only one between us that has an ego, is you. Most of the Community knows this as well. "Talks trash"? Sorry, I don't do that either.
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like you,i dont go by the same name in th BB as in game,try again
danny37 aka kidky
Hmm last time I looked I did.
I just looked it up since Jan. '08 you've logged a grand total of 8 1/2 hours in the AvA. Good to see that we have another AvA regular among us.
In your eyes only Larry. The only one between us that has an ego, is you. Most of the Community knows this as well. "Talks trash"? Sorry, I don't do that either.
:rofl You're funny. Ill see you in the AvA. Oh wait no I wont. :rolleyes:
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:rofl You're funny. Ill see you in the AvA. Oh wait no I wont. :rolleyes:
Nice back pedal.
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Things are becoming promising. Blitzkrieg has started to take off and new event is soon to come out :noid
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Nice back pedal.
Please tell me why you don't fly in the AvA? Other then getting your bellybutton handed to you of course.
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Please tell me why you don't fly in the AvA? Other then getting your bellybutton handed to you of course.
I never got "my a** handed to me in there". Who says the "AvA has the Best Sticks in the game"? Is there a memo that the majority of us missed? I don't recall a "BBS wide message stating this or a Message of the Day from HTC" stating this.
I can bring up lie after lie from someone who spewed nothing but stereotypes at Bipolar, while this person RAN from him (I still have the film). Then he'd preach "greatness to all who would be foolish enough to listen." This is the crux of the issue for a lot of us Larry and you continually dodge it. The issue being Integrity.
Now you say I do nothing but "talk trash to protect my ego." The answer? Your quote proves which of us does just that. :aok
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I blame Karaya... :devil
I'm in!
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You didn't answer my question.
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You didn't answer my question.
He didn't spell it out, but I think he has implied the answer is to not deal with you and your ego. I'm not the sharpest in the shed but thats what it looks like to me.
I'll go with his opinions on the matter, whatever he answers. I've met you both in game and Karaya is a class act.
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So he doesn't fly the AvA because of my ego? That's laughable. Karaya a class act again laughable.
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blah blah blah, I have to talk smack to people in order to get them to come into the AvA to play with me, since I scared off the rest! blah blah blah
:aok
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Yeah thats it. :rolleyes:
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Last time I was in the AvA it was actually kind of fun (fighting the chicken hawks during their squad night in there or whatever). Landed 7 kills in a hurri 1, got griped at, and left :lol
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Detune 200...thats where most of the stuff is at. Recently things have been calm. Now with 2 new staffers. Things are looking good....see yall thursday at blitzekrieg :salute
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Thank you Larry you illustrated better than I could ever say why I no longer fly in the AvA.
Its that attitude exactly that keeps the AvA unpopulated.
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Maybe 2 years a go the AVA was pretty good. Since that time it has mutated into a has been. If it can be brought back to life it may see some use again. Seems like it was changes they made to increase usage that finally killed it in the first place.
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Thank you Larry you illustrated better than I could ever say why I no longer fly in the AvA.
Its that attitude exactly that keeps the AvA unpopulated.
Yes because apparently none of you have ever heard of squelch. I think its time for you all to come up with another lame excuse since that one is played out already.
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I wish some of you would come tommorow night and see how fun it can be.
btw I still think I got robbed last week :lol
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Thank you Larry you illustrated better than I could ever say why I no longer fly in the AvA.
Its that attitude exactly that keeps the AvA unpopulated.
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Yes because apparently none of you have ever heard of squelch. I think its time for you all to come up with another lame excuse since that one is played out already.
I sent an email to HTC asking for a permanent squelch list and I did not get an answer in the affirmative. The AvA would be fun if I didn't have spend the first five minutes typing in all of the regulars into squelched status. Be nice just to list them in a text file that ran when you logged in. Just have to do it once.
Then I could fly and not have to listen and read the insults and whining and crying because I refuse to play by an imaginary set of rules.
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I see alot of people that will gripe about the AvA arena, that I've yet to see in there. It really is too bad. The AvA has dedicated staffers that will pretty much do anything you ask for in maps, plane sets etc. There's been times when I didn't go into the MA for days because I was enjoying the excellent fights and historic matchups the AvA has to offer.
Hope to see some of you in there sometime
:salute
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I sent an email to HTC asking for a permanent squelch list and I did not get an answer in the affirmative. The AvA would be fun if I didn't have spend the first five minutes typing in all of the regulars into squelched status. Be nice just to list them in a text file that ran when you logged in. Just have to do it once.
Then I could fly and not have to listen and read the insults and whining and crying because I refuse to play by an imaginary set of rules.
LMAO five minutes to squelch people? I can, and have, filled up my whole squelch list in about 30 seconds. Why does it take you so much longer? If it does take you that long why dont you do it when you're climbing up to your 20k hard deck?
I see alot of people that will gripe about the AvA arena, that I've yet to see in there.
It been like that forever buster. They just don't want others to go in there because they didn't like it the last time they were in there. Which when you look at some of their stats they haven't been in there for months or years. Its called drama and they thrive on it.
BTW I here they let some P38 tard on the AvA staff. :rolleyes: :aok
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I sent an email to HTC asking for a permanent squelch list and I did not get an answer in the affirmative. The AvA would be fun if I didn't have spend the first five minutes typing in all of the regulars into squelched status. Be nice just to list them in a text file that ran when you logged in. Just have to do it once.
Then I could fly and not have to listen and read the insults and whining and crying because I refuse to play by an imaginary set of rules.
dawger please....you cry more than the AvA regulars do.
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If you detune "200" then there are no egos to worry about IMHO. Everyone has the option to detune "200" so you make that choice to listen to other peoples banter, deal with it.
It's like walking in to a house that is playing vulgar music, you have the choice, you can stay or you can leave but if you do stay don't complain about the music.
Make sense?
SO JUST DETUNE "200"
:salute
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SO JUST DETUNE "200"
How dare you!! If they detune 200 they wont be able to complain about people trash talking. Then they will have no excuse not to fly there.
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How dare you!!
I do dare sir! :aok
Such a simple fix that would cut down on these types of threads..
I wish life had the "[commonsense][/commonsense]" tags enabled...
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:D
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dawger please....you cry more than the AvA regulars do.
Fudgums, you probably recall a little incident a few months ago when you were swooping a 109 over the 109's field just after he took off. While he was defensive I came and killed you.
And you proceeded to lecture me on the "Code of Conduct" in the AvA.
My squadron likes to fly together and work as a team. Every six months or so I'll peek into the AvA and hope it has magically transformed itself into an historical operations arena. Every six months I'm disappointed.
I try to never attempt to tell people how they should fly. I would like an arena where team work was valued but I certainly would not care if other chose not to fly that way.
The ONLY problem I have with the AvA is the insistence on many of the regulars in dictating how other folks fly. Rules suck. The great thing about computer games is all of the necessary rules can be coded into the game.
Larry flies around at 50 feet in his 109 because it effectively makes the fight 2 dimensional and then chastises anyone with altitude. He apparently cannot see he is compensating for his poor situational awareness by limiting the area of the sky he has to scan. At 50 feet there is no possibly of a threat from below. All of that is wonderful. Larry is certainly entitled to use the ground to his advantage. It is an effective technique, one I have employed myself when the occasion warranted.
The problem is when Larry decides that anyone who chooses to not allow him his Situational Awareness crutch is violating an arena rule. An arena altitude cap is born in Larry's mind.
Let us talk about some of the other many AvA rules.
The one I violated, interrupting a 1 versus 1 fight. First, if you want a controlled 1 v 1 fight why aren't you in the DA? Why in the heck would anyone pay $16.00 a month to play a massively multiplayer online game and then insist on only getting in a fight with one guy? My CO calls this the "Bruce Lee" mentality. Everyone has seen the martial arts movies in which the hero, surrounded by enemies, only has to fight one at a time. They conveniently wait in a menacing martial arts pose until the hero kicks the butt of the guy who is scripted to be attacking him all by himself.
If I get attacked by multiple bandits its my own fault and its fun. In fact, when I am training my squad mates I teach them not only to keep as much pressure on the bandit as possible but to apply that pressure from as many directions as possible. It is a serious error to allow the defensive bandit to see more than one attacker in any one view. We teach one guy applies pressure in the control zone and his wingman maneuvers for a blindside guns pass.
In the AvA this is gang banging and other assorted names.
If you see me on a guys six firmly in control of the fight, I WANT you to zoom in from his blindside and blast him into next week. That's good teamwork.
I encourage bandits to take the high angle snapshot (Head on) because I know I can use their snapshot to grab angles away from them. I don't want folks to stop trying to HO. Someone attempting to HO and then fight an angles fight is an easy target. In fact, when I see a lead turn at a merge in an arena it tells me the guy is above average. He understands that the guns don't win the fight, flying does.
I like fighting at altitude, especially against another team oriented group. The fight is three dimensional and usually more interesting than the anchored pole pulling on the deck.
No one has the right to demand others fly in an manner other than the one they choose. And that is what I have a problem with in the AvA.
You will find that, if you aren't trying to tell me how to fly according to the imaginary rules, I will be happy to fight against you or alongside you. I'll salute you when to kick my butt or when I might happen to win. I won't complain if you shoot me when I'm landing because I should have planed better. I won't complain if you shoot me when I'm taking off because I should have planned better. You can HO me, gang bang me, pick me and I don't care because I made the mistake that got me there. Drop bombs on me on the runway, drag me to the ack, side switch and spy on me....I don't care.
How about we call a truce, you and I, Fudgums? You don't tell me how to fly when I'm in the AvA. I'll just forget the past. Then we can see just how it goes. You seem like a reasonable guy and maybe we got off on the wrong foot.
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How about we call a truce, you and I, Fudgums? You don't tell me how to fly when I'm in the AvA. I'll just forget the past. Then we can see just how it goes. You seem like a reasonable guy and maybe we got off on the wrong foot.
From the peanut gallery, this seems like a very fine idea!
- oldman
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dawger please....you cry more than the AvA regulars do.
Fudgums, dwgr was training Warbirds pilots the art of air-combat when you were still eating paste. If he has opinions that you don't like, the least you can do is admit that they are based on many years of online flight sim experience...you have no place insulting him.
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Eating paste?
I think we've found the problem :D
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you said the same thing few months ago. The topic was finished then, so there was/is no reason to bring it back up.
Won't be saying anything about it any more.
Hope to see yall on thursdays.
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Dawger here's the thing. I fly at 50 feet in my 109 because like some I don't need 10k to win a fight. I find it boring to climb that high when its not necessary. I like to get to a fight as fast as I can because I like dogfighting. If you like Ill meet you in the DA and show you my "poor SA". Simple matter is I can tell anyone how I want them to play. Its up to them to ignore it or listen.
BTW do you remember our 'fights' in the AvA? If you do you really shouldn't be talking about someones skill level. Maybe I should find the films of them and post 'em.
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Eating paste?
I think we've found the problem Big Grin
You mean to tell me not everyone eats a little paste now and again... My Shrink lied to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 <--notice the L33T Syntax :aok
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