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Title: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: JunkyII on April 09, 2009, 06:12:00 PM
So I logged on today for about an hour before work and I looked for the biggest dar. Saw half a sector darbar that had a full darbar of friendlys heading at it plus another half a sector in the sector where every one was launching from. But then the enemy dar went away in a minute and I was like wtf then i checked the field status and saw only the FHs were dropped, nothing else not even radar....This is very cowardly of the knights who like taking bases because I know personally that Knights have alot of pretty decent sticks that work together and can easily handle almost any enemy 2v1. Does this happen on the other sides this seems to be a Knight thing that is getting out of hand. :salute
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: DMBEAR on April 09, 2009, 07:56:46 PM
So I logged on today for about an hour before work and I looked for the biggest dar. Saw half a sector darbar that had a full darbar of friendlys heading at it plus another half a sector in the sector where every one was launching from. But then the enemy dar went away in a minute and I was like wtf then i checked the field status and saw only the FHs were dropped, nothing else not even radar....This is very cowardly of the knights who like taking bases because I know personally that Knights have alot of pretty decent sticks that work together and can easily handle almost any enemy 2v1. Does this happen on the other sides this seems to be a Knight thing that is getting out of hand. :salute

I'm glad they let Valley girls in the army now.  :salute
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: The Fugitive on April 09, 2009, 09:25:51 PM
I'm glad they let Valley girls in the army now.  :salute

DMBEAR, you and I don't hit it off that often, but I'm with you this time !  :rofl


Oh and Junky, it's been my experience that its usually the Bishops that pull this stunt.
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: Masherbrum on April 09, 2009, 09:31:29 PM
I'm glad they let Valley girls in the army now.  :salute

 :rofl
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: JunkyII on April 09, 2009, 09:37:25 PM
Valley girls? If your insulting me for post it was a rant. Also you dont know me in person or what type of Soldier I am, whats your occupation? you dont see me saying you suck at being a civ......
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: Agent360 on April 09, 2009, 09:45:03 PM
It is not any particular country that kills the fight. THEY ALL DO IT. I know becuase I am a country switcher ....(and a spy some say). I see this happen in almost every good furball no matter what two countries are fighting each other.

What is really funny is when you have a great fight/furball going with no intent on taking the base and some griefer flys buffs over and asks for fighter cover because he is going to drop the FH so "you guys can push the fight back" = absolute lameness at its best.....LOLOLOLOL.

Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: Yenny on April 09, 2009, 09:56:12 PM
Valley girls? If your insulting me for post it was a rant. Also you dont know me in person or what type of Soldier I am, whats your occupation? you dont see me saying you suck at being a civ......

lol junky, just ignore it and drive on. charlie mike !
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: CHAPPY on April 09, 2009, 09:56:37 PM
I'm glad they let Valley girls in the army now.  :salute
:rofl
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: JunkyII on April 09, 2009, 09:59:32 PM
lol junky, just ignore it and drive on. charlie mike !
im kinda laughing because I just got done level 2 combatives and last week shot 39 out of 40 at the range, im more sqaured away then most (EIB coming in may  :rock )
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: JunkyII on April 09, 2009, 10:02:14 PM
It is not any particular country that kills the fight. THEY ALL DO IT. I know becuase I am a country switcher ....(and a spy some say). I see this happen in almost every good furball no matter what two countries are fighting each other.

What is really funny is when you have a great fight/furball going with no intent on taking the base and some griefer flys buffs over and asks for fighter cover because he is going to drop the FH so "you guys can push the fight back" = absolute lameness at its best.....LOLOLOLOL.


ownage should be used in these situations :D
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: Ciaphas on April 09, 2009, 10:02:32 PM
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What is really funny is when you have a great fight/furball going with no intent on taking the base and some griefer flys buffs over and asks for fighter cover because he is going to drop the FH so "you guys can push the fight back" = absolute lameness at its best.....LOLOLOLOL.

I sit on the fence with this statement..


I decided to help out a GV fight. I flew a few CAS missions and then decided to go knock down the enemy VH's. I announced it on range and not one person said "Hey, Don't do it!" So I ran my first mission ('eavy P-38L) and dropped the dar (Yeah I suck at life) and then RTB'd. I Then announced on range that I was going to perform another attack on the VB and a few guys said that they preferred that I did not hit attack the VB. It's a good thing my aim sucks or I could have hindered the GV battle quite a bit and then would have probably been lumped in tot he category you are speaking of.

People on the range channel need to speak up and let people know if they want an attack on a specific location/target.. You can always do this on the "Country" channel. so if people do not speak up that's their own fault.

See my point?
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: stodd on April 09, 2009, 10:05:44 PM
I Then announced on range that I was going to perform another attack on the VB and a few guys said that they preferred that I did not hit attack the VB. It's a good thing my aim sucks or I could have hindered the GV battle quite a bit

See my point?
No.
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: Ciaphas on April 09, 2009, 10:07:54 PM
If you are over a base in a massive furball and you want the buffs to stay away let them know. Same thing goes for DV fights let the guys in the air know of you want them to stay out of it. If the person still drops or joins in the fight that shows poor class but at the same time you can't talk crap about someone who drops and was never told to stay out of it and the same thing goes for those performing CAS in a GV fight.
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: 1Boner on April 09, 2009, 10:40:12 PM
So I logged on today for about an hour before work and I looked for the biggest dar. Saw half a sector darbar that had a full darbar of friendlys heading at it plus another half a sector in the sector where every one was launching from. But then the enemy dar went away in a minute and I was like wtf then i checked the field status and saw only the FHs were dropped, nothing else not even radar....This is very cowardly of the knights who like taking bases because I know personally that Knights have alot of pretty decent sticks that work together and can easily handle almost any enemy 2v1. Does this happen on the other sides this seems to be a Knight thing that is getting out of hand. :salute

C'mon you're kidding, right???

An attack that turns into a good furball over or near a base, eventually has to come to an end, correct?

If I was in charge of trying to take a base, I would leave as much of the base intact as possible.

Shut down as much as it takes to take the base.

Taking down the FHs puts a pretty big hurt on the defense of the base

Now if the guys working the town are efficient enough, the base should be taken, and still have enough of it left to defend its self till the FHs come back up.

Its pretty hard to defend a base that is totally devestated after you take it, sooooo----

So Imho, it was a smooooth move. :rock
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: stodd on April 09, 2009, 11:04:42 PM
If you are over a base in a massive furball and you want the buffs to stay away let them know. Same thing goes for DV fights let the guys in the air know of you want them to stay out of it. If the person still drops or joins in the fight that shows poor class but at the same time you can't talk crap about someone who drops and was never told to stay out of it and the same thing goes for those performing CAS in a GV fight.
Well to answer your question before you edited it, no, you are the one being stupid here. You tell people to "speak up" on range ch if they dont want you to drop the hangers. Yet, in the post I quoted you on you said they asked you not to drop on the VH's and yet you still attempted to.
I Then announced on range that I was going to perform another attack on the VB and a few guys said that they preferred that I did not hit attack the VB. It's a good thing my aim sucks or I could have hindered the GV battle quite a bit.


Oh and I boldend the words for the "dense" as you would call it.
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: Ciaphas on April 09, 2009, 11:13:05 PM
I didn't make the second attack. the:

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It's a good thing my aim sucks or I could have hindered the GV battle quite a bit and then would have probably been lumped in tot he category you are speaking of.

Was referring to the first and only attack. I should have made that bit more clear.

And no one said you were being stupid those are your words and not mine.

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Are you that dense?
This is a question and not a statement.. Big difference.  :aok
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: stodd on April 09, 2009, 11:20:07 PM
I didn't make the second attack. the:

Was referring to the first and only attack. I should have made that bit more clear.

OH! I completely mis-read that then.

This is a question and not a statement.. Big difference.  :aok
Would you ask someone you didnt think was that? :D
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: Ciaphas on April 09, 2009, 11:21:22 PM
yeah, because I can be dense at times.  :aok
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: stodd on April 09, 2009, 11:57:37 PM
 :rofl That makes two of us.


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Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: Ciaphas on April 10, 2009, 12:07:11 AM
 :rock


 :salute
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: DMBEAR on April 10, 2009, 12:11:04 AM
Junky, c'mon fella, I was kiddin.  It happens.  I'll explain since you took offence.


So I logged on today for about an hour before work and I looked for the biggest dar. But then the enemy dar went away in a minute and I was like wtf.

Clearly, you can almost see a blonde haired girl in flourescent colors and legwarmers chewing gum sayin this.  Like, ya know? totally.


Valley girls? If your insulting me for post it was a rant. Also you dont know me in person or what type of Soldier I am, whats your occupation? you dont see me saying you suck at being a civ......

As for your service,  :salute.  I have nothing but respect for that.
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: Ciaphas on April 10, 2009, 12:21:26 AM
 :rofl

 :aok
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: Scotch on April 10, 2009, 12:43:57 AM
So I logged on today for about an hour before work and I looked for the biggest dar. Saw half a sector darbar that had a full darbar of friendlys heading at it plus another half a sector in the sector where every one was launching from. But then the enemy dar went away in a minute and I was like wtf then i checked the field status and saw only the FHs were dropped, nothing else not even radar....This is very cowardly of the knights who like taking bases because I know personally that Knights have alot of pretty decent sticks that work together and can easily handle almost any enemy 2v1. Does this happen on the other sides this seems to be a Knight thing that is getting out of hand. :salute


That's one of the reasons I gave your squad so much grief. Especially when it participated in "THE ALLIANCE!!!1" missions. Because that's all "THE ALLIANCE!!!1" does.
There's dweeb skwadz on every country doing it though.
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: Ciaphas on April 10, 2009, 12:49:21 AM
Notice the "1" instead of the "!"?

Oh Noes!!!!1111, the riders of the apocalypse are upon us!

 :rofl

Just kidding, I always wondered what the THE ALLIANCE!!!1 was all about and now that I know I will stay away from them.
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: Delirium on April 10, 2009, 01:01:09 AM
What I don't understand is that killing the FH is often counter productive to anyone capturing the base, most of the time.

Yes, killing the FH does give you a momentary break from fighters (approximately 8-10 minutes) but it also causes the defenders to up from a back base with much more alt than the attackers have. More often than not, the FH are down but the VH is left alone and the defenders also start to roll WW, Ostie, and tank units from the VH in addition to grabbing alt from a back base.

The last base capturing mission I was part of was with some of the BKs, a huge NOE mission had flattened a base ruining the nice fight we from there previously. It was a large field with multiple runways but it only took 8 guys; VH was dropped by 2 guys, the rest of the ord was dropped on the town. We finished the effort by taking our small number and killing all the ack and vulching the same guys that took the base earlier until our bellys were full and the troops were dropped.

Just my experience, your mileage my vary. Enjoy the game anyway you wish, I shall do the same.  :salute
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: LYNX on April 10, 2009, 06:26:51 AM
What I don't understand is that killing the FH is often counter productive to anyone capturing the base, most of the time.

Yes, killing the FH does give you a momentary break from fighters (approximately 8-10 minutes) but it also causes the defenders to up from a back base with much more alt than the attackers have. More often than not, the FH are down but the VH is left alone and the defenders also start to roll WW, Ostie, and tank units from the VH in addition to grabbing alt from a back base.



Coupled with the FACT the troops don't run into the hangers  :eek:
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: waystin2 on April 10, 2009, 07:17:45 AM
 :uhoh
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: frank3 on April 10, 2009, 10:12:29 AM
I don't get around that much, who are the Valley Girls?
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: ROX on April 10, 2009, 11:06:55 AM

That's one of the reasons I gave your squad so much grief. Especially when it participated in "THE ALLIANCE!!!1" missions. Because that's all "THE ALLIANCE!!!1" does.
There's dweeb skwadz on every country doing it though.


Without a doubt the most ignorant post so far this year....WTG Scotch!  :aok



ROX

Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: grizz441 on April 10, 2009, 12:40:56 PM

Without a doubt the most ignorant post so far this year....WTG Scotch!  :aok



Ignorant...   :rofl

Like when you chastise our entire squad, calling us spies and scum for switching sides?  Have you emailed Dale yet to request getting the Muppets permanently banned from Knights for being traitors?
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: Saurdaukar on April 10, 2009, 12:53:41 PM
If you are over a base in a massive furball and you want the buffs to stay away let them know.

Question... for a MEEELLLEEEEUUUUN DOLLLLERSSS!!!

How often... do they listen?  How often......... do....... they listen?  (queue clock ticking sounds).

Eh, eh, oh man... I... can I poll the audience!?!?! 

Lifeline!  (queue poll audience music, queue clock ticking sounds)

Ok.  Here... are the results.  (queue poll results music) 3% say "All the time." 4% say "what is a buff?" 2% say "MISHUN!" and... 91%... 91% say "Are you kidding me?  LOL, n3vAr!!!11"
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: angels10 on April 10, 2009, 01:15:36 PM
 Base almost overrun by sea planes 8to1 . I fly in sink the cv. Now am I the fun killer or the base saver? 
   Did this last week most said way to go saved the base! Three or four said why did you sink it now the fights over.
   If you want the hangars or cv down drop them. Some will like it some will not, uh well NEXT. :salute
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: Ciaphas on April 10, 2009, 01:16:35 PM
Should have kept reading Saurdaukar..

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If the person still drops or joins in the fight that shows poor class but at the same time you can't talk crap about someone who drops and was never told to stay out of it and the same thing goes for those performing CAS in a GV fight
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: ROX on April 10, 2009, 03:45:56 PM
Ignorant...   :rofl

Like when you chastise our entire squad, calling us spies and scum for switching sides?  Have you emailed Dale yet to request getting the Muppets permanently banned from Knights for being traitors?


I apologize whole heartedly Scotch...make that the second most ignorant post all year--now hand that blue ribbon over to grizz.


ROX
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: Ciaphas on April 10, 2009, 03:48:39 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: Masherbrum on April 10, 2009, 04:09:45 PM

I apologize whole heartedly Scotch...make that the second most ignorant post all year--now hand that blue ribbon over to grizz.


ROX

He's right ROX.   It's also like you berating a 17 year old kid on green channel for switching.    You calling someone else "ignorant", is ironic. 
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 10, 2009, 04:17:12 PM

That's one of the reasons I gave your squad so much grief. Especially when it participated in "THE ALLIANCE!!!1" missions. Because that's all "THE ALLIANCE!!!1" does.
There's dweeb skwadz on every country doing it though.

On the last night I flew there was a certain Knight squadron (the one that likes to spam back slapping messages on country channel) that was attacking this one Rook base en mass.  I click on the base to up since there was only another Rook defending in a WeebleWobble and try to up to defend.  Turns out I can't, the first wave of Knight attackers took out the fighter hangers.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: ROX on April 12, 2009, 09:09:29 PM
He's right ROX.   It's also like you berating a 17 year old kid on green channel for switching.    You calling someone else "ignorant", is ironic. 

Since attacking another player's in-game behavior on the forums is a rule violation (apparently no longer enforced) post screenshot or film proof

Here's some Kleenex.




ROX
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: bj229r on April 12, 2009, 09:21:45 PM
Valley girls? If your insulting me for post it was a rant. Also you dont know me in person or what type of Soldier I am, whats your occupation? you dont see me saying you suck at being a civ......
Cmon Junk, you can only go to that well SOOOOoo many times :)
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: JunkyII on April 12, 2009, 11:16:36 PM
C'mon you're kidding, right???

An attack that turns into a good furball over or near a base, eventually has to come to an end, correct?

If I was in charge of trying to take a base, I would leave as much of the base intact as possible.

Shut down as much as it takes to take the base.

Taking down the FHs puts a pretty big hurt on the defense of the base

Now if the guys working the town are efficient enough, the base should be taken, and still have enough of it left to defend its self till the FHs come back up.

Its pretty hard to defend a base that is totally devestated after you take it, sooooo----

So Imho, it was a smooooth move. :rock
No, You should fly at like 4 in the morning sometime, there is always a furball going on that has even numbers 8v8ish
Title: Re: Fighter Hangars always down
Post by: JunkyII on April 13, 2009, 12:17:56 AM
(http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=8d5dc7002e22abbcc79b87b207592a1ce04e75f6e8ebb871) Hope that worked

Thats the screeny I took of a base with this problem at it was the biggest dar when I came on :salute


oops didnt work heres the mediafire url http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=8d5dc7002e22abbcc79b87b207592a1ce04e75f6e8ebb871 its not the one vne being a tard :D