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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: rkanjl on April 13, 2009, 07:05:49 AM
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I see all kinds of posts complaining about the "horrors" taking place in the DA and to some extent, the MA. HO's, pics, poor skills, bad form, those distasteful noobs, the whole gamut. Evidently many of you come to the DA, spend a half hour or so, leave in disgust and then post your complaints and suggestions on what us new guys ought to do, how we should behave, what we should fly and how we should fly them.
What I haven't observed is any of you coming to the DA and offering to help. Why don't some of you Vet Sticks out there get together, spend a few hours a week or month in the DA and school us noobs. Put on a clinic, show us your stuff and interact with us. I think everyone would benefit from this and I personally would be honored to get to meet and fly with you guys.
I know there are trainers (seems like precious few) and everyone should do their homework and read (I do!) but not everyone does. Maybe if you pro's would invest a little time, it would break the ice, show some people the benefits of training and just overall help the game improve for everyone.
Have some fun with it, form an "Uber Squadron" and capture the map, then when you have everyone's attention bring out your patience and experience to help us become worthy opponents and squad mates.
So in the spirit of better gamemanship, I invite you, come to the DA and be a mentor or inspiration to us noobs. The state the game is in, or will be in, is just as much in your hands as in ours. Lead, follow or get out of the way.
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I have tried that in the past on a small scale and it failed miserably.
Better yet, why don't some of you go into the TA during the nights the trainers are present and work with them? As the old saying goes, 'you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink'.
I would be willing to help out, if needed.
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nice invite,
as a dweeb I probably have little to offer you but many better sticks can show you a thing or two....
I try to behave like a gent and have fun...( 2p worth of advice from me over)
<<S>> Jimmy
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I'll send one back at ya.
TA is open all day every day. I'm in there afternoons more days than not.
Want to learn some ACM, come into the TA and hook up with me or one of the other vets.
Leave your perk plane in the DA.
And once you have some ACM under your belt, venture off into the world of the Main Arena's.
I'd recomend Midwar for starters. No late war monsters, but plenty of good pilots to cut your teeth on.
Leave the attitude and ego at the door, and just fly.
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Leave your perk plane in the DA.
Excellent. :aok Right on!
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Yea i try to send alot of people to the TA when im in the DA.
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I really don't care how other people fly in the DA, because most of the time I sedn many people back to the tower. Only thing that get's me upset is when the noobs have to bomb other airfeilds. Leave the bombers at the bomber fields, then I'm happy.
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I see all kinds of posts complaining about the "horrors" taking place in the DA and to some extent, the MA. HO's, pics, poor skills, bad form, those distasteful noobs, the whole gamut. Evidently many of you come to the DA, spend a half hour or so, leave in disgust and then post your complaints and suggestions on what us new guys ought to do, how we should behave, what we should fly and how we should fly them.
What I haven't observed is any of you coming to the DA and offering to help. Why don't some of you Vet Sticks out there get together, spend a few hours a week or month in the DA and school us noobs. Put on a clinic, show us your stuff and interact with us. I think everyone would benefit from this and I personally would be honored to get to meet and fly with you guys.
I know there are trainers (seems like precious few) and everyone should do their homework and read (I do!) but not everyone does. Maybe if you pro's would invest a little time, it would break the ice, show some people the benefits of training and just overall help the game improve for everyone.
Have some fun with it, form an "Uber Squadron" and capture the map, then when you have everyone's attention bring out your patience and experience to help us become worthy opponents and squad mates.
SO in the spirit of better game manship, I invite you, come to the DA and be a mentor or inspiration to us noobs. The state the game is in, or will be in, is just as much in your hands as in ours. Lead, follow or get out of the way.
you don't know how many times vets go into the DA and attempt to help people out there with nothing but a nose in the wind. vets will not take well to noobs thinking they are gods gift to AH. all noobs get that way, i did at one point way back when. take the trainers advise and go to the TA and ask for some help with ACM and SA. also remember what he said LEAVE THE ATTIUDE AT THE DOOR
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90% of the time I try to help a new person I get an attitude shot back my way... :uhoh I am not speaking to all the new people ,but most in general are super egos right out of the cereal box :O
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I see all kinds of posts complaining about the "horrors" taking place in the DA and to some extent, the MA. HO's, pics, poor skills, bad form, those distasteful noobs, the whole gamut. Evidently many of you come to the DA, spend a half hour or so, leave in disgust and then post your complaints and suggestions on what us new guys ought to do, how we should behave, what we should fly and how we should fly them.
The real context is that the DA used to have very few people not check6-ing you before engaging, most players would respect 1:1s, etc. This was years ago, admittedly, but it was better and it lasted for years. So it's not like it was some fluke.
What I haven't observed is any of you coming to the DA and offering to help.
It's happened, but tbh 3/4 the time I've done it, no one's really interested. Drilling something to "good enough", not even to perfection, just doesn't seem to be as fun to most of the guys in the DA, as picking in tempests and hording etc etc.
Have some fun with it, form an "Uber Squadron" and capture the map...
Uh, no.
edit- nm, see above.
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I don't think the DA is the place to train. I think it is the right place to pratice what you may have learned in the TA. The DA is a great place to pratice wing tactics with your wingman. A good place to develop SA. As for problems with other pilots. I don't bother with the politics of channel 200 chat text . My own experience is that I found just about everyone in the DA there to have fun.
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If someone kills me poorly I always offer them advice and see if I can teach them a little something.
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I agree that the DA isn't the place to train, I just thought maybe it could be the place to let the egotistical one's see the need to train. I for one thank you all for the efforts you have given and believe it a shame that the majority passed on a great opportunity. Trust me, I for one will be in the TA and the attitude will be appropriately humble. Salute all, will see you in the MA when I feel I can contribute.
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The DA used to be a place to get trained by experienced pilots, once a newb had learned how to turn his engine on in the TA. Best place to learn the basics and get some schooling on ACM was, and is, the TA. But the DA was where you got lots of different training and advice from many good pilots, in a very short time. Call it, hands-on practical instruction. It was friendly, well-ordered and stress-free for the most part. If you set up a 1v1 fight, most wouldn't interfere except for the occasional newb, and they rarily did it twice.
Last time I was there and got in a situation where someone wanted to learn something from me, we couldn't do it a Furball Island. No privacy, even out on the edges. So we went to a couple of facing bases. Guess what? Three yahoos must have seen us on radar, took up from one base and came screaming in. Even after we told them this was a private fight, they wouldn't leave us alone. Fortunately, a few minutes later my squad arrived for our planned practise, which was why I was there in the first place, and toasted the little f*rts. They vanished into the ground rather quickly, and I guess, crawled back to Furball kindergarten after that.
The DA is just no longer conducive to helping anyone out on a regular basis anymore.
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If someone kills me poorly I always offer them advice and see if I can teach them a little something.
then you have those that think because they killed you "if it ain't broke don't fix it"
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I was in there not too long ago, killed this one person (forget name). Understanding that people do not like to lose, I expected him to come back for revenge. While fighting (and checking 6) I spot him coming. I used his aggresion against him and killed him again. Next he came in higher, I used his alt against him. Next he came in a fast plane and out-turned and killed him.
So obviously, this was not a very skilled person. No problem with it, it's just the way it is. If he were to ask me politely how I killed him 6 times and a couple others in a single sortie, I would have taken him to a private field and wouldve worked with him.
However this person (as killz put it) thought he was gods gift to AH and procced to chastize me on 200 for whatever, cheating HOing, BnZing you name it.
A personality like this is not going to get much help, especially in a "practice arena". The big show is the MA, not the DA. Dont whine and cry in the DA.
A little respect and or a <S> goes along way with more experienced players. Be nice, maybe you will get some advise on tactics, moves, SA, general knowledge of specific capabilities of specific aircraft.
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ps I didnt offer any help :t
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I know I had a hard time getting anyone to stick with me, 1v1 me or anything for stick help.
I'm the same player pretty much as I was when I started.
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I was in there not too long ago, killed this one person (forget name). Understanding that people do not like to lose, I expected him to come back for revenge. While fighting (and checking 6) I spot him coming. I used his aggresion against him and killed him again. Next he came in higher, I used his alt against him. Next he came in a fast plane and out-turned and killed him.
So obviously, this was not a very skilled person. No problem with it, it's just the way it is. If he were to ask me politely how I killed him 6 times and a couple others in a single sortie, I would have taken him to a private field and wouldve worked with him.
However this person (as killz put it) thought he was gods gift to AH and procced to chastize me on 200 for whatever, cheating HOing, BnZing you name it.
A personality like this is not going to get much help, especially in a "practice arena". The big show is the MA, not the DA. Dont whine and cry in the DA.
A little respect and or a <S> goes along way with more experienced players. Be nice, maybe you will get some advise on tactics, moves, SA, general knowledge of specific capabilities of specific aircraft.
-HB
ps I didnt offer any help :t
I am a noob and ive been killed at least six times by the same person before and all i do is keep coming back. maybee its because i like punishment or that i am a sucker for hurt . i dont know . but , i dont get mad i just finnaly leave an go find someone else to kill me six times.
I am getting better and i do ask for help when i do ask i get " im too busy or sorry i cant at the moment "
Its not thier fault its just timing. So i just go about my day and try to get better
the da is for fight and dueling and the ta is for training at least i thought
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I see all kinds of posts complaining about the "horrors" taking place in the DA and to some extent, the MA. HO's, pics, poor skills, bad form, those distasteful noobs, the whole gamut. Evidently many of you come to the DA, spend a half hour or so, leave in disgust and then post your complaints and suggestions on what us new guys ought to do, how we should behave, what we should fly and how we should fly them.
What I haven't observed is any of you coming to the DA and offering to help. Why don't some of you Vet Sticks out there get together, spend a few hours a week or month in the DA and school us noobs. Put on a clinic, show us your stuff and interact with us. I think everyone would benefit from this and I personally would be honored to get to meet and fly with you guys.
I know there are trainers (seems like precious few) and everyone should do their homework and read (I do!) but not everyone does. Maybe if you pro's would invest a little time, it would break the ice, show some people the benefits of training and just overall help the game improve for everyone.
Have some fun with it, form an "Uber Squadron" and capture the map, then when you have everyone's attention bring out your patience and experience to help us become worthy opponents and squad mates.
So in the spirit of better gamemanship, I invite you, come to the DA and be a mentor or inspiration to us noobs. The state the game is in, or will be in, is just as much in your hands as in ours. Lead, follow or get out of the way.
Learn where to learn and how to learn before posting this type of garbage.
Your in the wrong arena. Go to the TA and you can get help. You can do it in the DA but not at the lake. Setup a 1 on 1 session to get some pointers. You don't do that by hanging out in the DA either..... go to the TA or talk to someone you see in the MAs that seems to know what they are doing, preferably in a plane you'd like to learn. From what I have seen of the lake, you'll only pickup poor habits and not learn your ride very thoroughly.
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Why don't some of you Vet Sticks out there get together, spend a few hours a week or month in the DA and school us noobs. Put on a clinic, show us your stuff and interact with us. I think everyone would benefit from this and I personally would be honored to get to meet and fly with you guys.
As has been stated, this has been tried on more than a few occasions.
The primary reason you see more squeaking than anything else, with respect to gameplay, be it specific to the DA or not, is because after several months of extending an open hand to help and getting it slapped away by children who think themselves above assistance, we've pretty much thrown in that towel.
You can lead a horse to water, as they say, but you cant make him drink.
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I'm will to teach people who are willing to learn and come to me personally.
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Until I can whoop Shuffler repeatedly, I will thirst for knowledge and seek it out wherever I can! Even from him lol! :D
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I was just in there and all I can say is, WOW. The kind of crap that those kids were typing would get you muted, kicked, and banned if you said it any any other arena. Most of it was coming from 'gosthntr' and 'WGTr1gg', but with all those people in there you would think people would report them but no. I was in there for almost an hour and they never stopped with the "mamas sucking ****s" or "this guy takes it up the ****"
I can deal with some trash talk since its expected in games but Jesus HTC needs a few MODs in there to tone it down.