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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Nath-BDP on October 22, 2000, 05:12:00 PM
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P-47M 1
P-47N 3
P-51H 11
Fw 190D-9 23
Fw 190F-8 11
Ta 152H-1 18
Tempest V 16
Spitfire XIV 4
F4U-4 5
La-7 10
Yak-9UT 12
--GO LW!--
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It's porked due to everyone picking the Dora/etc to shut up the luftwabbles :P
Hamish!
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Its also porked because Wardog posted a link on the General board with the title "LW drivers". Lot more LW drivers got here than USAAF, SN, VVS or RAF.
Current score is, as of RAS's post, as follows:
P-47M 6
P-47N 6
P-51H 19
Fw 190D-9 28
Fw 190F-8 13
Ta 152H-1 23
Tempest V 22
Spitfire XIV 20
F4U-4 8
La-7 16
Yak-9UT 15
And the score, weighted by choice number (1st pick gives 3 points, 2nd pick gives 2 points and 3rd pick gives 1 point), as of RAS's post, is as follows:
P-47M 13
P-47N 11
P-51H 43
Fw 190D-9 58
Fw 190F-8 20
Ta 152H-1 49
Tempest V 42
Spitfire XIV 44
F4U-4 17
La-7 30
Yak-9UT 27
Be your own judge as to which system you like better.
Sisu
-Karnak
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Whatever the system is, I'm glad that D9 is first (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I am a bit worried about Ta152H...is a damn nice plane but at very high altitudes only...if Pyro throws a C version the things would change, tho (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Plus, D9 is very likely not to be perked and 152H1 will be...so D9 is IMHO better choice (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I dont understand how FW-190 F8, Yak9 UT or La7 are perks
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Zig, Pyro said that *some* were perk, others were not (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
D9 is as much perk as P-51 or chog.
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What Santa said.
RAM if you gotta pick one I'd go with the D-9 over the H-1. H-1 is better for hunting Stratofortresses but for fighter-vs-fighter at lower altitudes the D-9 will be lovely. Also the D-9 is useful for historical scenarios.
[This message has been edited by funked (edited 10-23-2000).]
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Karnak..
You dont know me very well do you. I posted the thread (LW Driver) because of every other post from them whining about all the US planes.
I am Wardog =357th Pony Express=
My main ride is the p51 although ive put a few weeks in the Typhoon.I have flown the p51 since beta and will continue to do so.
Now, who the hell are you? Never heard of you other than you Whining posts.
Dog out.......
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Yeppes, Funked. I agree with you (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Ta152H will mark the end of the 35K uberdweeb B17s, forever. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
But I'd always take a D9 before a Ta152H...first because D9 will be a non-perk plane, and second because D9 is better plane at 20K or less...
Of course, tell me about a 152C and I'll change my mind (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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OK RAM, you asked for it!
Ta 152C also is inferior to the Fw 190D-9 below 20k. Ha!
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How inferior ?
Does gun package mean anything too ? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Why dont we start from the start and bring in the following A/c,
Ju87B,
Me110C,
Me109E,
He111C,
Spit Mk1,
Hurricane Mk1,
P40C,
Aircobra,
P51B,
Early Model Zeke,
Ki43,
Mc200,
Fiat Cr42, (biplane)
early model Russian A/C too,
etc etc....
I still cant understand how and why a WW2 sim doesnt have these A/C?. afterall the war did start in 1939 and not 1942-43
Marcof 249 RAF
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Current score as of my post:
P-47M: 7
P-47N: 8
P-51H: 21
Fw-190 D9: 40
Fw-190 F8: 13
Ta-152 H1: 27
Tempest V: 22
Spitfire XIV: 26
F4u-4: 9
La-7: 16
Yak-9UT: 16
Top 3 so far:
Fw-190 D9
Ta-152 H1
Spitfire XIV
[edit] The total votes are:
P-47M: 7
P-47N: 9
P-51H: 18
Fw-190 D9: 46
Fw-190 F8: 25
Ta-152 H1: 35
Tempest V: 32
Spitfire XIV: 24
F4u-4: 10
La-7: 22
Yak-9UT: 21
Top 3:
Fw-190 D9
Ta-152 H1
Tempest V
Must be a miscount for P-51H on Karnak's end. I used the "Find Text" feature in my browser to get counts of each aircraft. I double checked counts before putting in this edit. [edit]
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Flakbait
Delta 6's Flight School (http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6)
"My art is the wings of an aircraft through the skies, my music the deep hum of a prop as it slices the air, my thrill the thunder of guns tearing asunder an enemy plane."
Flakbait
19 September 2000
[This message has been edited by flakbait (edited 10-23-2000).]
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GO , DORA, GO!!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Hristo; Ta 152C is 20mph slower than D-9 on the deck. It's best speed is 470mph at 34,400ft(with MW 50).
You're right about it's firepower. 1x30mm with 90rnds, 4x20mm with 850rnds!
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Total votes [per my edit above], NOT top choices, as of Fishu's post:
P-47M: 7
P-47N: 9
P-51H: 18
Fw-190 D9: 46
Fw-190 F8: 25
Ta-152 H1: 35
Tempest V: 32
Spitfire XIV: 24
F4u-4: 10
La-7: 22
Yak-9UT: 21
Top 3:
Fw-190 D9
Ta-152 H1
Tempest V
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Flakbait
Delta 6's Flight School (http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6)
"My art is the wings of an aircraft through the skies, my music the deep hum of a prop as it slices the air, my thrill the thunder of guns tearing asunder an enemy plane."
Flakbait
19 September 2000
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Oh, I could cry the tears of joy.
And I will, once I see the Ta 152H-1 in the plane selection.
Go, Kurt, go !! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Total scores as of Lynx's post:
P-47M: 8
P-47N: 10
P-51H: 18
Fw-190 D9: 52
Fw-190 F8: 29
Ta-152 H1: 36
Tempest V: 35
Spitfire XIV: 27
F4u-4: 11
La-7: 25
Yak-9UT: 25
Top 3:
Fw-190 D9
Ta-152 H1
Tempest V
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Flakbait
Delta 6's Flight School (http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6)
"My art is the wings of an aircraft through the skies, my music the deep hum of a prop as it slices the air, my thrill the thunder of guns tearing asunder an enemy plane."
Flakbait
19 September 2000
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Glad to see some Allied dweebs showed up to match the Axis dweeb for dweeb. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I think any of those planes would be fun to fly.
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I agree funke.
I somehow hope we get the non-perk planes rather than the perk ones.
They can wait (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).
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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
(http://www.angelfire.com/nt/regoch/sig.gif)
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I did notice that many LW Fans were not interested in voting for a competitive counterpart to their "dream machine".
Quite a few voted only for the FW varients.
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
"Anyway, more golf..."
Humble
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That's true Mino, but there were a lot of German planes on the list.
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[I'm stalking this board (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)]
Total scores as of Duckwing6's post:
P-47M: 10
P-47N: 12
P-51H: 18
Fw-190 D9: 53
Fw-190 F8: 29
Ta-152 H1: 36
Tempest V: 36
Spitfire XIV: 28
F4u-4: 14
La-7: 27
Yak-9UT: 25
Top 3:
Fw-190 D9
Ta-152 H1 & Tempest V tie
Fw-190 F8
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Flakbait
Delta 6's Flight School (http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6)
"My art is the wings of an aircraft through the skies, my music the deep hum of a prop as it slices the air, my thrill the thunder of guns tearing asunder an enemy plane."
Flakbait
19 September 2000
[This message has been edited by flakbait (edited 10-23-2000).]
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Mino,
because we already have some counterparts for our dreammachine in MA!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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[I'm still stalking this board (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)]
Total scores as of eye's post:
P-47M: 11
P-47N: 13
P-51H: 19
Fw-190 D9: 55
Fw-190 F8: 32
Ta-152 H1: 38
Tempest V: 38
Spitfire XIV: 30
F4u-4: 15
La-7: 28
Yak-9UT: 25
Top 3:
Fw-190 D9
Ta-152 H1 & Tempest V still tied
Fw-190 F8
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Flakbait
Delta 6's Flight School (http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6)
"My art is the wings of an aircraft through the skies, my music the deep hum of a prop as it slices the air, my thrill the thunder of guns tearing asunder an enemy plane."
Flakbait
19 September 2000
[This message has been edited by flakbait (edited 10-23-2000).]
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Wardog,
That did seem quite unlike you, but it had the effect of giving the poll a Luftwaffe bias. The poll should have been presented in a neutral context.
I, and others, did not appriciate your effort.
Further more, who the hell are you to prod an HTC poll in a particular direction? Who cares if you're a member of the 357th? We all pay our $30.00 per month, we all have equal weight with our voices.
YOU"RE the one that has explaining to do, not I.
Sisu
-Karnak
[This message has been edited by Karnak (edited 10-23-2000).]
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Karnak you are more than paranoid aren't ya?...
BTW since you put your "neutralizing" posts in MA the D9 and F8 190s have got a tremendous boost. Nothing to do with wardog's post.
As for mino, I didnt vote for a countermatch for LW planes, know why?
we need some competitive Jabo for LW.F8. We need some LW match for P51 and F4U. D9. We need some LW perk plane. Ta152.
Others will vote for their favorite planes and there will be plenty of votes for a match plane. I do vote for the planes I DO want to fly ,as pyro stated.
I want to fly 190D9
I want to fly 190F8
I want to fly Ta152
So I voted those three. Period.
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Hey LW's. This past weekend, I briefly saw something on , I believe it was the history channel, the Ta154? It looked similar to the Mosquito. Got any info on it?
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Apache
=XO= VMF-323 Death Rattlers
VMF 323 Death Rattlers Web Site (http://home.earthlink.net/~bkapache)
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Ta-154 was never put into full blown production. Specs are here: Ta-154 (http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/ta154.html)
I'd prefer a Ta-187 Falke personally.
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Flakbait
Delta 6's Flight School (http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6)
"My art is the wings of an aircraft through the skies, my music the deep hum of a prop as it slices the air, my thrill the thunder of guns tearing asunder an enemy plane."
Flakbait
19 September 2000
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Thanks flakbait.
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I voted for the La-7 because I have never seen one modeled. That was for me.
I voted for the 190D9 and Spit XIV to help alleviate the overwhelming complaints on their absence. I picked them both in the interests of fairness and balance. I hope they get modeled, so we can move right into the "yes, but the fm is porked because my XXX can't outturn a Zeke. YYYYY said in his autobiography it could, but I guess he doesn't know anything, right?" type threads.
We are naive fools if we think the addition of these planes does anything to end the complaints of their lobbyers. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Well, since this thread is becoming a place where justify the choices (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) (lufty nasty lobby boys)....
I vote for 190D9 because i want to see if it's so good as they say.
I vote for Yak9UT because i already like Yak9U.
I vote for Ta-152H, because i love it since i was a child.
Dont care anymore about uber-notuber.
I'll fly ALL of them. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Biasy boy i am. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Doh!
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RAM,
Paranoid, nah. I just wanted to draw in the others as well. Since I posted those the rate of LW gain has slowed.
I voted for the Spitfire F.MkXIV because its my favorite ride, perk or no.
I voted for the Fw190D-9 so they'll shut up already.
I voted for the Yak-9UT because I prefer inline engines to radials and it was the only non-American, British or German aircraft to meet that criteria.
Sisu
-Karnak