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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Xasthur on April 17, 2009, 11:13:09 PM
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G'day everyone,
I was just having a bit of a snoop around the internet looking for something else when I stumbled across this:
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i253/plague_06/WWII/b-24_6.jpg)
The image source is:
http://www.airpower.at/news01/1228_pilothunt/index.html (http://www.airpower.at/news01/1228_pilothunt/index.html)
Is this a real photo? I can't tell from the size of the image... Can anyone locate a larger, high quality version of it? If it's real it would be an amazing photo....
Cheers.
Regards,
-Arch
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I certainly can't find a higher or larger quality picture, but that seems fake from the position the picture was taken from.
-FYB
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if it is real, that's the most realistic picture I've ever seen?
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Fake? Looks like it was taken from the Nose turret. Engine in view is outboard engine on the right wing. WTF is "Fake" about that?
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It might be an original picture, but it looks like the 109's were photoshopped in.
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Admittedly I don't have a real great eye for detail but isn't that a 190?
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The one on it's back looks like a 109. Is that a B-24?
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Did the LW use tracer ammo?
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The one on it's back looks like a 109.
The more I look the more I think it's a 190. Long round nose, big paddle prop, looks like an intake on the right side, squared off tips on the wings and H-Stabs, looks like the uncovered parts of the landing gear close in to the fuselage rather than farther out on the 109.
I googled around a bit and can't find any other copies of that pic. Maybe you could contact the webmaster of that sight and see if he can help.
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Admittedly I don't have a real great eye for detail but isn't that a 190?
Looks a lot like the 190D we have ingame.
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Fake? Looks like it was taken from the Nose turret. Engine in view is outboard engine on the right wing.
It's the inboard engine. You can see part of the cowling and prop on the outboard, so it must have been taken from the very back of the cockpit. The picture looks legit for the most part, but when you blow it up the plane farther out that's firing has some quirks. Could very well be just the results of lighting and perspective when digitizing a grainy old photo though.
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G'day everyone,
I was just having a bit of a snoop around the internet looking for something else when I stumbled across this:
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i253/plague_06/WWII/b-24_6.jpg)
The image source is:
http://www.airpower.at/news01/1228_pilothunt/index.html (http://www.airpower.at/news01/1228_pilothunt/index.html)
Is this a real photo? I can't tell from the size of the image... Can anyone locate a larger, high quality version of it? If it's real it would be an amazing photo....
Cheers.
Regards,
-Arch
First instinct says fake. It appears to be a D9 rolling over and down seen from the co-pilot's seat of a B24. It appears the intake for the inline engine shows up in the right spot on the D9 The LW birds seem photoshopped in.
I've looked at all kinds of WW2 aviation stuff over the years and never seen that shot. Considering the content, I'd think it would have surfaced long ago as if it is real, it's a helluva combat photo.
For what it's worth, the other images on that site are often reproduced photos of B24s. The one you posted is the only one not familiar to me.
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OK it's a 190!!!! damn!!
:D
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First instinct says fake. It appears to be a D9 rolling over and down seen from the co-pilot's seat of a B24. It appears the intake for the inline engine shows up in the right spot on the D9 The LW birds seem photoshopped in.
I've looked at all kinds of WW2 aviation stuff over the years and never seen that shot. Considering the content, I'd think it would have surfaced long ago as if it is real, it's a helluva combat photo.
For what it's worth, the other images on that site are often reproduced photos of B24s. The one you posted is the only one not familiar to me.
I think I've seen a film, where it's that exact same thing, minus the planes. Like a black and white film of a B-24's engine flying. It looks very familiar now.
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First instinct says fake. It appears to be a D9 rolling over and down seen from the co-pilot's seat of a B24. It appears the intake for the inline engine shows up in the right spot on the D9 The LW birds seem photoshopped in.
I've looked at all kinds of WW2 aviation stuff over the years and never seen that shot. Considering the content, I'd think it would have surfaced long ago as if it is real, it's a helluva combat photo.
For what it's worth, the other images on that site are often reproduced photos of B24s. The one you posted is the only one not familiar to me.
That's exactly what I was thinking.... It was a 'too good to be true' moment for me when I saw that image. I was just hoping that someone would prove me wrong and say "Here ya go mate, this is the photo in a massive resolution".
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I say photochopped.
Tracers look like laser beams from Star Wars. I'd almost buy it without the second fighter.
wrongway
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I'd say fake.
1. The plane in the background has the "laserbeam" tracers
2. The plane also has some weird looking effect from behind like a wake someone tried to put into the photo for "coolness"
3. the plane diving away if you lok closely you can see a black line from the film like what many had back in the day, the wing of the plane seems to be on TOP of the line, hence photoshoped in.
It would appear this photo is a still taken from a film, the planes were photoshoped in.
I've seen alot of old B/W WWII photos digitized and tho I'm no expert in any sense of the word it has the feel of fake and with the inconsistencies with the LW planes it doesnt seem authentic.
The second fighter really is the deal breaker for me. It's not even the tracers really its that odd shading behind the fighter, like someone was trying to give it the appearence of "swooping" in for the kill.
Sorry, it would have been a really awesome find if it was real. Still it looks cool tho
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At that resolution and with jpeg artifacts it is impossible to tell if it is real or not. B/W photos have a tendency to look fake if they are overexposed and later processed digitally.
Xasthur, why not contact the people running that site and ask about the picture?
Things that support the photo's authenticity is that bomber crews would indeed take pictures of enemy aircraft when they were under attack, and sometimes they got some astonishing shots.
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(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e295/terraphon/Image%20Macros/shopped.jpg?t=1240084347)
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Fake, 2nd aircraft and lasers are shop'd in as are the smoke trails.
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original pic is from a documentery "the history of war"
the comercials run on history channel fron time to time,
it is taken from a film clip
fake photo shoped
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Its appears to be a frame from a film. Notice the vertical black lines. One on the wing of the 190 and 1 below the inboard cowling.) Those would be scratches in the film. The only thing 'suspicious' to me is that the propeller of the 190 is clearly visible and the b24 and other fighter are just blurs, but that could be a synchronization between the RPM of the propeller and the shutter speed of the camera.
This is an enargement of the image that i did in photoshop.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/6s9o2h.jpg)
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Milo, yes, the LW had tracer rounds. And yes that is a 190, just look at the wings.
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I don't think that's supposed to be a 190. The Dora has an annual radiator and a much smaller spinner than that. Also the leading edge of the wing looks too perpendicular to the fuselage/ the trailing edge swept too far forward to be a 190 wing, though it may because of the dihedral and the angle. But the gear are mounted far out on the wings, so it couldn't be a 109 either. I think it's just a poorly photochopped image...
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This is as close as I could get with the AH Skin Viewer. This is the Dora
(http://i41.tinypic.com/orikio.jpg)
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Thanks for that pic, didn't realize that the gear was too far back as well.
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It's a composite image. Note that the rather slow turning (at cruise RPM) B-24 props are a complete blur. Yet, the fighter's prop is quite distinct. That means two photos at two different shutter speeds.
Look that this photo... This is also a composite image (but the prop blur is similar. I did this in Photoshop with the GML plug-in in about 15 minutes.
(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/Forts-109.jpg)
My regards,
Widewing