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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Nemisis on April 21, 2009, 06:01:39 PM
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Ok guys, list your top 3 planes in each catigory and on a scale of, one to ten, rank your fav from each catigory for (1) speed :uhoh, (2) manuverbility :rolleyes:, (3) survivability :noid, (4) fire power :t(defensive and offensive). Ok guys leter rip, hit me with your fav planes :aok
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(1) speed :uhoh, (2) manuverbility :rolleyes:, (3) survivability :noid, (4) fire power :t
Spitfire mk XIV
It has the best combination of the 4 things you said.
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Fighter: Spit14
Attacker: P47
Bomber: B17
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P-38
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Thou these aren't the best in there class they are my favorite.
Fighter: 109 G2/6
Attacker: 190A8
Bomber: STUKA!!!!
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best bomber: 38
everything else, P47M... when we get it :t
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P51D :aok
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You need to look at it this way:
Popularity
vs.
Effectiveness
In a popularity contest, you'll see the Spit 16, P-51D, NIK-2J, and La-7 as the top fighters. In reality (in a virtual game, scary :uhoh), that will go to F4U-4 hands down.
Best attacker? Well for most popular you'd see a mixed response, but top three would be a P-38L, P-51D, and P-47N/D-40, and this is true, with the addition of the A-20 and other variants of the Mustang, Lightning and Thunderbolt.
Now, the best bomber? There is a few ways to look at this question. Ord, Speed, Defensive firepower, and looks. The B-17G probably takes the cake here as best overall bomber and most popular (closely followed by the B-24J).
Gv? simple. Tiger, in both practicality and popularity. Even through all the whines tankers have put up regarding the Firefly, its still the king.
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Survivability and durability: B17
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P-38
Ditto.
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Maneuverability: Lancstuka + drones
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Fighter: Spitfire XVI
Attack: Me 110G2
Bomber: B-17G
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Ok guys, list your top 3 planes in each catigory and on a scale of, one to ten, rank your fav from each catigory for (1) speed :uhoh, (2) manuverbility :rolleyes:, (3) survivability :noid, (4) fire power :t(defensive and offensive). Ok guys leter rip, hit me with your fav planes :aok
Im not sure but I am fairly certain that no one has answered you properly. I think your question is poorly phrased and conceived.
Just as in golf where a professional can tell the quality of a golfer by his swing a fighter pilot can tell the quality of anothers abilities by his first turn in an engagement. If the plane does not fit the pilot well the turn will be poor and the ability will suffer.
In WWII the pilots began to see that the ability to perform horizontal turns was the exception of history and a new direction had to be taken to achieve air superiority. So a combination of all of the characteristics you mention had to be achieved in a single airplane. The one plane that meets that goal is the P51 but it is not the best at any one of the categories mentioned.
In AHII my choice for the three categories you mention would be:
Fighter: Tempest
Attack: P47/Bf 110
Bomber: B24
However I must counter that with the exception to the rule. The Stuka is best suited to achieving rank in either bomber or attack mode and is very capable of killing any fighter in the game.
So what is it you are really asking? :D
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Maneuverability: Lancstuka + drones
:rofl
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fighter= val or stuka
attack= val or stuka
bomber=b24
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P-38 for me.
has everything...manuvers nicely, has good enough speed for me, climbs great, will get you home if you can dodge the 20K runstangs, excellent gun package, and looks realllll mean. It fills all the roles you mentioned.
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Fighter p-20
attack A-20
bomber B-20
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Fav Fighter= F-6F (Well balanced with no real strong downpoints)
Fav Attacker= A-20 (Good ordinance and survivability. Perfect raid plane)
Fav Bomber= B-24 (Lotta bombs and a lotta guns to make sure the bombs get to where their going)
Future Fav Bomber= B-29 (c'mon, you know you'd fly it if you had it)
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Fighter: F4U-4
Attacker: Mosquito Mk VI
Bomber: B-17G
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Challenge, I am asking people to give me what they think is the best plane in each category and I gave them some guides to rank their planes by (speed, maneuverability, survivability,firepower) so as they will make an educated decision, yes the pilot needs to find his plane but if they put the B5N2 or the D3A for fighter, not sure which one has no forward guns, then they obviously did not make the right choice, as neither has two in any concentration or even a respectable grouping. I suggest that you try to see a post from more then just your perspective or interpretation. Many people answered correctly but some did not, I was asking for THREE planes, not just lancstuka or P38. I agree castle51, except the B24 suffers from a slightly lack of tail turret ammo when I fly it, and A20G is my fav in and out plane (raid) plane as if you fly it right and are smart, it will see you through to the end. And yes, I would love the B29. You, me, the 29, and a crap ton of bombs on their base!!!! :salute
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fighter- F4U1A
attacker- F4UD
bomber- B24
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Fighter: La-7 --- just a good all around plane
Attack: Heavy Typhoon--- can carry 2 1k bombs and still has the mighty hispanos for lighter gvs.
Bomber: B-26 --- not a bad payload and doesn't catch on fire if you look at it wrong.
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Thanks guys eveyone after my last post answered how I wanted thanks guys, I'm not being sarcastic or anything, serious, I is in a good mood!
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Challenge, I am asking people to give me ...
I stand by what I posted. :salute
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fighter: Fw 190 A5/D9
Ataack: P-38 L/J (Lazar rockets)
Bomber: Bostons
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Personal Favorites
Bomber - Ju-88
Attacker - Ju-87
Fighter - 109F4
Bests
Bomber - B17
Attacker - F4U4
Fighter - F4U4
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1Boner I think we have a lot in common, the only thing I would change about your list is to replace the Typhoon with the P47D, as it can carry more ords. than any other plane in the game other than some divebomber, and the heavy bombers, I think, so it is better from a purly attacker stand point. The B26 is my favorite bomber as it has the best ratio for bomb load to survivability. Tell me what you think about the gun coverage.:salute
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Fighter= they're all good if used right
Attacker= nothing can match the Jug for ord and firepower 2500#s of bombs 10 rkts and 3400 rds of 50 cal. Durability best in game and real experience.
Bomber= B17 why? Wings prime target on B24 easier to shoot down.
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1Boner I think we have a lot in common, the only thing I would change about your list is to replace the Typhoon with the P47D, as it can carry more ords. than any other plane in the game other than some divebomber, and the heavy bombers, I think, so it is better from a purly attacker stand point. The B26 is my favorite bomber as it has the best ratio for bomb load to survivability. Tell me what you think about the gun coverage.:salute
I'm not very good with rockets, sooooo
The 2000 lbs of ord on the typhie is bout all I can handle.
But the BIG difference between the 47 and the Typhie after the ord is gone are the mighty Hispanos!
I use Attack mode mainly for ground targets and the 20mm is great for lighter gvs, flacks etc. in one pass or 2.
But then again, I don't fly the 47s much, maybe I'm missing out on something.
I'll give it a try. :salute
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Fighter - too broad definition, best all-rounder is F4U-4. High altitude P47-N. Bomber interceptor Me262.
(night) Fighter - Mosquito NF.XXX/XIII
Attacker - Mosquito VI
Bomber - Mosquito B.IX/XVI
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Fighter I know lot hate it Spixteen
Bomber B25H
Attack 190 A8
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Nice, spixteen is a pretty good fighter, my fav used to be teh 190D as i could fight and attack untill I saw the La7's gun package and took it out for a spin!!! And the B25H is techincly a bomber but I would call it a HEAVY attacker as it has no bomb sight, however i will still count that.
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Tempest
B-17.
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Best bomber B17
Best attacker B17
Best fighter B17
<S> 999000
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Ok 999000 you didn't understand what i posted or didn't this topic all the way through, (I usually do unless I am in the top 7 people as they usually reply to the originol post. I do so I can get what the conversation is about.). I wouldn't bombers as fighters, or the B17 as an attacker. I problably wouldnt say bombers really have any offensive fire power as a fighter, I probably could have worded that better, only deffensive as you can't go in after somebody, they must come to you. While I respect your oppinion, I would like you to write again and tell me what is your fav fighter and attacker please. And don't salute yourself please, it makes you sound shallow and self absorbed in my oppinion
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lol i knew 999000 would say that! The way you gun in those things yeah its a fighter <S> sir
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999000, do you want the B-29 in AH2?
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Ok 999000 you didn't understand what i posted or didn't this topic all the way through, (I usually do unless I am in the top 7 people as they usually reply to the originol post. I do so I can get what the conversation is about.). I wouldn't bombers as fighters, or the B17 as an attacker. I problably wouldnt say bombers really have any offensive fire power as a fighter, I probably could have worded that better, only deffensive as you can't go in after somebody, they must come to you. While I respect your oppinion, I would like you to write again and tell me what is your fav fighter and attacker please.
You clearly do not know who or what 999000 is and why in his case the answers were exactly correct... watch out next time when 999 is going after YOU in his B-17! :lol
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You clearly do not know who or what 999000 is and why in his case the answers were exactly correct... watch out next time when 999 is going after YOU in his B-17!
Lusche has that one right 999000 is very lethal in those things
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Fighter= F4u
Attacker=F4u
Bomber =F4u
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Personal Favorites
Bomber - Ju-88
Attacker - Ju-87
Fighter - 109F4
If you aren't already, you should be playing in the Tunisia scenario. Next frame is today (Saturday, April 25th). Show Up Time is 3 pm Eastern (but not later, as arena is locked after that) in Special Events II.
We always can use more Ju 88 pilots.
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with my fighting style : fighter 190a5
attack : p47
buff : b17
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Guess i can put mine..
Figher- Spit 9
Attack- P51D
Bomber- B17
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You need to look at it this way:
Popularity
vs.
Effectiveness
In a popularity contest, you'll see the Spit 16, P-51D, NIK-2J, and La-7 as the top fighters. In reality (in a virtual game, scary :uhoh), that will go to F4U-4 hands down.
Correct! F4U-4 is hands downs the best fighter aircraft in the game. In real life, many believe if the war hadn't ended as soon as it did, the F4U-4 not the pony would have been known as the finest fighter in the war.
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Fighter-Yak-9U, "special mention LA-7"
Attacker- IL2, "special mention Mossie".
Bomber- B-17, "special mention B-25H which is vastly underused in AH". "2nd special mention B-26".
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Sir Nemisis, Best Bomber B17, actually think the B24 might not make the top 5
Best attacker IL2 is decent
Best Fighter...don't have a clue ..they don't even let me in the FH's!
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Thou these aren't the best in there class they are my favorite.
Fighter: 109 G2/6
Attacker: 190A8
Bomber: STUKA!!!!
Sorry but i had to say this, thats retared not the part about the stuka but the A8 just because your afraid to fly a A8 in fighter mode doesnt make it a attack plane
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I'll give it a try...
Fighter: p51d, 2 cans, 2 drops
attacker: F4u1D, 2 -1kbmbs , no rockets, 4 cans
Bomber: B24.. Still love that boxcar...
Tank: Sherman M4 ... :salute
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999000, do you want the B-29 in AH2?
Your survival rate just dropped from 0.00% to -25.00%
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Fighter: F4U-4
attacker: F4U-4
Bomber: B-17
Tank: Tiger
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Sorry but i had to say this, thats retared not the part about the stuka but the A8 just because your afraid to fly a A8 in fighter mode doesnt make it a attack plane
Its not that im afraid to fly it in fighter mode, I just dont like how it flys. It has the most potent gun package out of the 190 series, but it feels like a brick if it has more than 50% fuel in it.
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For the in game i would have to go with the Sherman the Tigers are too volunerable and can be taken down easily if you know certain tricks.
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LiaisonOfficer:GrnEagle of the DickWeed HeavyBomber Group. (http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj110/GrnEagle43DHBG/emaillogo.jpg)
Fighter:P-47N. 1.Speed: 470mph Rank 8. 2.Manuverbility: Rank 8. Survivability: Rank 8. FirePower: 8-50cals 425rpg Rank 10.
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj110/GrnEagle43DHBG/p47n.jpg)
Attack:P-47D-40. 1.Speed: 425mph Rank 8. 2.Manuverbility: Rank 8. Survivability: Rank 8 FirePowr: 8-50cals 425rpg Rank:10
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj110/GrnEagle43DHBG/800px-P-47D-40_Thunderbolt_44-95471.jpg)
Bomber: B-17G. 1.Speed 300mph Rank:10 2.Manuveribility: Rank 7. Survivability: Rank 10 FirePower:11 50cals. Rank 10
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj110/GrnEagle43DHBG/squadcolorsb-17.jpg)
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Ok guys I counted votes, according to you guys, the best fighter is the F4U followed by the Spitfire. The best attacker is a tie between the F4U and the mighty Jug followed by the P38. The best bomber is the B17 by far. thanks for voting, remember this is all up to you.
As a note, I didn't list model only the plane, there were too many for me to figure out. thank you guys. :furious
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LiaisonOfficer:GrnEagle of the DickWeed HeavyBomber Group. (http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj110/GrnEagle43DHBG/emaillogo.jpg)
Fighter:P-47N. 1.Speed: 470mph Rank 8. 2.Manuverbility: Rank 8. Survivability: Rank 8. FirePower: 8-50cals 425rpg Rank 10.
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj110/GrnEagle43DHBG/p47n.jpg)
Attack:P-47D-40. 1.Speed: 425mph Rank 8. 2.Manuverbility: Rank 8. Survivability: Rank 8 FirePowr: 8-50cals 425rpg Rank:10
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj110/GrnEagle43DHBG/800px-P-47D-40_Thunderbolt_44-95471.jpg)
Bomber: B-17G. 1.Speed 300mph Rank:10 2.Manuveribility: Rank 7. Survivability: Rank 10 FirePower:11 50cals. Rank 10
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj110/GrnEagle43DHBG/squadcolorsb-17.jpg)
I like the way you think :salute
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Fighter : F4U-4
Attack : 110 / P-47N
Bomber: B-17
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Ok 999000 you didn't understand what i posted or didn't this topic all the way through, (I usually do unless I am in the top 7 people as they usually reply to the originol post. I do so I can get what the conversation is about.). I wouldn't bombers as fighters, or the B17 as an attacker. I problably wouldnt say bombers really have any offensive fire power as a fighter, I probably could have worded that better, only deffensive as you can't go in after somebody, they must come to you. While I respect your oppinion, I would like you to write again and tell me what is your fav fighter and attacker please. And don't salute yourself please, it makes you sound shallow and self absorbed in my oppinion
I have film of a B-24 duel (7 vs 7) and an NOE B-17 fighter sweep containing about 25 single B-17's w/ a gunner each. I have many times rolled a 26 and successfully fought Fighters in loops, turns, rolls, etc. I never said it was easy, but has been done.
Before you insult 999000, you might want to understand that he flies the B-17 in here. So ask yourself, knowing this, who is "shallow"?
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Fighter: Ki-61 (hands down)
Attacker: F6F-5
Bomber: What?
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Best Fighter: F4U-4
Best Bomber: B-17
Best Attacker: P-47N
Favorite Fighter: Any P-47
Favorite Bomber: Ki-67
Favorite Attacker: Ju 87
Best Overall Plane (combination of speed, maneuverability, firepower, and survivability): P-47N
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In the environment of the Main Arena (low alt, don't need lots of range), I'd pick
best fighter: (without perks) La-7; (with perks) F4U-4
best attacker: (without perks) P-47N, P-47D-40, or A-20; (with perks) F4U-4 or A-20
best bomber: B-24
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Ok, Masherbrum, you need to cool off a little, I never insulted 999000, I just said, IN MY OPINION, he shouldn't salute himself. You are right though, at least to a certian extent; I used poor word choice there and I appologise for it. I only meant that it made him sound a little like he thought he was God or had never been shot down in the past year, EVER. If he hasn't, then he has earned that and I apologize for it. And as an update, the P47 was bumped up to best voted attacker making it
fighter is the F4U attacker is the P47 leading by two and bomber is B17 with an est. 90 percent of the votes.
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Sir Nemis, Dear Brother really no offense taken. I would pretty much describe myself as the villaige idiott not any kind of god ......I never even realized that I was saluting myself..I thought I was saluting everyone and signing my name...as far as getting shot down....I think everbody has shot me down numerous times!! its all good and good fun <S>
999000
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Not as much as you have shot all of us down 999000 :D You gotta be my gunner again someday! :) :salute
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Sir Nemis, Dear Brother really no offense taken. I would pretty much describe myself as the villaige idiott not any kind of god ......I never even realized that I was saluting myself..I thought I was saluting everyone and signing my name...as far as getting shot down....I think everbody has shot me down numerous times!! its all good and good fun <S>
999000
You killed my F4U1C at 800 in a B25H, i haven't killed you.
Yet. :P
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Well 999000 if you want to salute someone else and sign your name the do this.....
<S> (your name here), 999000 or you could go
<S>,
999000; just don't put your name right after the <S> as people say <S> 999000, like you did, when saluting someone else, at least from what I've seen. And phantomz, I have dibs, I have stalkers in perked aircraft that kill me almost every sortie, seriously.
<S>999000, fly high and shoot strait.
P.S. I have discovered the recipie for infinite happinies, Hot Pockets and AH2 :D!!!!