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Title: B-26
Post by: Pannono on April 25, 2009, 10:18:22 PM
I propose a remodel
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: Karnak on April 26, 2009, 12:27:56 AM
Yup, it needs one.
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: MachFly on April 26, 2009, 02:12:12 AM
 :aok
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: Beefcake on April 26, 2009, 03:42:12 AM
Yep, she's 10 years old and really showing her age.
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: thndregg on April 26, 2009, 07:38:52 AM

Please!
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: SmokinLoon on April 26, 2009, 08:07:00 AM
One has to wonder why HTC does allow some techy/coding interns from the local college come in and tinker with the model make-overs.  A lot of positive things could be done to the game in a short amount of time for little or no cost (maybe a few pizzas, some soda-pop, etc) to better the graphics all the way around, update models, update flight models, perhaps add in a few new vehicles and aircraft, implement new game features, etc etc.  There is a lot of no cost talent out there that isnt being used.

Yeah, I'm sure there is a concern with things getting hi-jacked, but I'd be willing to bet there would be ways to isolate the work to a LAN and limit access to certain magical recepies so the secrets of HTC are let out like Pandara's Box.   :)

btw... a LOT of aircraft need updated.  'specially the Mossie (in more ways that one, too).   :aok
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: frank3 on April 27, 2009, 05:48:17 AM
Quote from: Beefcake on April 26, 2009, 03:42:12 AM
Yep, she's 10 years old and really showing her age.

I believe the B-26 already had a make-over a few years ago? Not too extensive though, I believe they only remodelled the gun-positions and such.
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: Denholm on April 27, 2009, 10:11:29 AM
I think the Italian planes need looking after, first.
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: JETBLST on April 27, 2009, 10:19:40 AM
What remodeling does the B-26 need?
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 27, 2009, 02:50:06 PM
Quote from: JETBLST on April 27, 2009, 10:19:40 AM
What remodeling does the B-26 need?

I don't think it's a hi-res skin.  The cockpit is less than basic.  No throttle that moves, control wheel, basic graphics, etc.

With the comming of animated pilots I would imagine every "old" aircraft will get the latest graphical upgrade.


wrongway
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: HighTone on April 27, 2009, 11:12:28 PM
Quote from: Pannono on April 25, 2009, 10:18:22 PM
I propose a remodel

 :aok I fly it more than some other bombers would be a nice update
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: JETBLST on April 27, 2009, 11:57:12 PM
Ah yes, I see.  I agree.  One of my favorite bombers too.
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on April 28, 2009, 04:01:19 AM
Quote from: AWwrgwy on April 27, 2009, 02:50:06 PM
With the comming of animated pilots I would imagine every "old" aircraft will get the latest graphical upgrade.


Say what? :confused:
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: Noir on April 28, 2009, 04:14:59 AM
animated pilots ? yah right.
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 28, 2009, 07:01:32 AM
Quote from: Noir on April 28, 2009, 04:14:59 AM
animated pilots ? yah right.

Quote from: Pyro
Development Update october 28,2008 What this all means for now is that we are going to focus on core game development.  We’re going to pull the CT AI mission system and redevelop it for use by CM’s in scenarios and special events.  We’re working on new terrain upgrades in both the technology and the art used.  We want to implement a character animation system.  We want to bring back the old 8 player H2H but expand it both in the number of players and with additional gameplay capabilities.  There’s a lot of systems in the game engine that are dated and in need of overhaul.



wrongway
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: Cajunn on April 29, 2009, 12:46:40 AM
Yep I agree, also the Yaks and P-40's could use some attention.
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: frank3 on April 29, 2009, 05:33:09 AM
Quote
Development Update october 28,2008 What this all means for now is that we are going to focus on core game development.  We’re going to pull the CT AI mission system and redevelop it for use by CM’s in scenarios and special events.  We’re working on new terrain upgrades in both the technology and the art used.  We want to implement a character animation system.  We want to bring back the old 8 player H2H but expand it both in the number of players and with additional gameplay capabilities.  There’s a lot of systems in the game engine that are dated and in need of overhaul.

Yay we're getting the H2H back with MORE players!
Who cares for animated pilots now :D
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: stephen on April 29, 2009, 05:40:01 AM
and the nose wheel falls through the concrete under braking....
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: LLogann on April 29, 2009, 07:31:13 AM
It's true, it's true!!!  And mine is going to be smoking a cigar.... Like Capt. WildBill Kelso
Quote from: Noir on April 28, 2009, 04:14:59 AM
animated pilots ? yah right.

(http://www.moviemarket.co.uk/library/photos/170/170155.jpg)
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: Noir on April 30, 2009, 04:13:18 AM
getting the invulnerable tail gunner fixed would be good too.

I was asking myself, what makes a B26 near invulnerable in AH2 compared to P47 for example ?
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: lyric1 on April 30, 2009, 06:50:20 AM
Quote from: Noir on April 30, 2009, 04:13:18 AM
getting the invulnerable tail gunner fixed would be good too.

I was asking myself, what makes a B26 near invulnerable in AH2 compared to P47 for example ?
I always thought the plane was a little to tough for AHII until I found this picture. The story as I recall it the plane dropped it's load on target & made it home.

(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/a36b968a65.jpg) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: Noir on April 30, 2009, 07:24:25 AM
pretty amazing when you consider the lifting surface % lost. I still believe that the real one couldn't take hundreds of 20mm shells explosion like ours do. The argument stands for all bombers, I don't know why bombers in AHII are a whole different league when it come to taking hits.

I just wish that the damage model had more hit zones so it would be more realistic, and not just the old "wing is on, wing is off" binary thing for example. I know its not a simple wish.
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: thndregg on April 30, 2009, 07:40:28 AM
I often question the damage accuracy of the B26 myself. I use them exclusively to level bomb carriers from 8K, just out of reach of the auto-ack, but still within easy range of 5-inchers. More times than not, I survive entact unless a player nails my bombers with the 5-inch.
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: Swatch on April 30, 2009, 09:13:05 AM
I love my B-26s for this reason... I'm not sure where they're supposed to be on the damage absorbtion scale, but I have noticed they take a fair amount of damage.  That bein said, if it really is not historic, I'm not against correcting it (but I will shed a tear if they do :( )
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: Krusty on April 30, 2009, 11:29:53 AM
B26s have one of the worst damage models of the bomber set. One of the earliest, buggiest bomber models. I want it remodeled if ONLY to reconstruct the damage model to accurately RECEIVE damage.

I've put 1/2 an entire C-hog loadout (that's HISPANOS, folks!) into a set of B26s flying level. Only thing I got was a gas leak, lost an elevator on a drone, and maybe a flap on the lead.

I've put multiple 30mm sprites in the same spot onto these birds, flying K4s and G14s. I've landed 2 hit sprites directly on the V-stab of one before and it took no damage (not even rudder damage).

Second only to the damned lancasters.


Then again, the B25Cs (which have new damage models) still show some of the same BS titanium-plated defenses. I have film of a P39Q firing MULTIPLE 37mm hits into B25Cs with little effect, Fw190A8s with 4x 20mm landing dozens of hits per burst, in 3+ passes on the same bomber, only getting a fire on the very last pass (after firing 400 20mm rounds). I'd love to see those fixed as well.
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: oakranger on April 30, 2009, 04:18:23 PM
They should make one of the B-26B 10 through 55.
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: E25280 on April 30, 2009, 09:11:17 PM
Quote from: Noir on April 30, 2009, 04:13:18 AM
I was asking myself, what makes a B26 near invulnerable in AH2 compared to P47 for example ?

Just a guess -- probably because the B-26 is a much larger aircraft.

B-26:
Wingspan 65'
Length 56'
height 17'10"
Empty weight 24000 lbs.

P-47N:
Wingspan 40'9"
Length 36'1"
Height 14'8"
Empty weight 10000 lbs.

The B-26 and B-25 were both very rugged aircraft.  If you think you can take either down as easily as a fighter, the error is in your expectation, not the modeling.
Title: Re: B-26
Post by: Noir on May 01, 2009, 12:28:33 AM
regardless of the size the planes are made of the same materials with comparable construction principles, I agree that the bombers should be more rugged, but the difference in AH is like night and day. 3x20mm hits will take a P47 wing, put 60 rounds in the B26 wing and its still flying !