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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Bosco123 on April 26, 2009, 07:13:27 AM
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I think I made this game too complicated. I've been doing things that I shouldn't have done, and it's gotten me to dislike the game. So last night I decided to do somthing that I really hadn't done in a wile, which I should have been doing, perk farming.
I usually don't maintain many perks, because I like to waste them all on Chogs and Temps, most of the time I lose my Chog and Temp. So I started the night with about 45 perks. What I did last night was more fun than what I had for the past three months! I gained about 100 perks in about 5 sorties flying the lovely P38J, and the 190A8. It also helped that we were down on numbers and we had a 1.02 perk bonus.
I landed kills and I got somthing that I don't usually do often, because I'm stuck in a Chog, killin at furballs. 1v1 were galore last night. I had 3 in one sortie, one right after the other after the other. Some of them I lost, some of them I got to go home with some damage.
It made me come to like this game alot again. I came to think that it was the "good ole' days" even though that was 2 years ago for me.
I think if, maybe people figure out what they did when they were still a noob, they can come to appreciate the game much more than they do now, post ing about how it's not as much fun as it used to be. I found what I did was a lot of fun, and I think I'm going to do it more and more.
That's back to basics.
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sooo, Ima take up a hvy p-47 n- full fuel, climb to 35-36 k.....and then....dive on a town and auger.....That really wasn't alot of fun? but ok...i'll try it again. :rock
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i smell a new sticky thread.
Good Job Bosco. *Stadium Roar/ Applause*
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i smell a new sticky thread.
Doubtful.
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Not like noob noob ColKlink, but just new to understand what was going on. I remember when I used to take up a 205 and have a ball, I would die a lot, but then there was a couple times when I would land kills. Now, with the skills that I have, I can land kills more than I die, it makes it fun. You can go into a furball, and come out alive.
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I was bored with EW and MW flying Hurri2c and other cannon birds, because it's too easy to kill with them. I switched to Hurri-1 with only .303's and have had a blast for the last few months because I actually have to fly and work for kills.
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Got over 35K of fighter perks cause I just don't find the perk planes all that much fun so I rarely fly em.
Have more fun in perk farming planes. K4, G2, G6, 109F4, A8, A5, FM2, etc..... :O
Although some times you nearly have to fly a pony or a D9 to catch all the runners :eek:
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P38G is my perk farmer. As of now i have bout 610 perks.
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What I do is pay more attention to the perk multiplyer. If its below 1.0 ill take a pony. If its above that ill go for a high eny ride to gain perks. Score is no matter. I'm trying to get up to 1000 perks for fighter so when I do lose a chog or another ride it won't matter as much and it gives me some incentive to keep that amount. I only play every few days, when I do get on its for hours at a time. I think I finally broke 400 last week. Its like saving up for the mess around sorties. In a perk plane your not going to gain a lot of perk points, its just to go clean the air over a field and have fun for me with some risk to a few points. No matter what, do what you find fun and try to be as courteous to your countrymen when possible. As for the enemy, let them die horribly.
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Not like noob noob ColKlink, but just new to understand what was going on. I remember when I used to take up a 205 and have a ball, I would die a lot, but then there was a couple times when I would land kills. Now, with the skills that I have, I can land kills more than I die, it makes it fun. You can go into a furball, and come out alive.
Intardnet skillz.
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Back to the Basics? Back to bnz in a A8? Ill say it again 38s are easymode in the MA :salute
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Back to the Basics? Back to bnz in a A8? Ill say it again 38s are easymode in the MA :salute
pfft!
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Ill say it again 38s are easymode in the MA
Really?... tell me about it.
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I can't hit anything in a 38. I see people land multiple kills in them sometimes and just don't get it. Might be that my vertical game is just worse than horizontal in one. The guns dead off the nose in most planes throws my sum off a lot as well.
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My reasoning behind 38s being easy mode (along with Steves 51 :D) is that 38s are one of the fastest planes, one of the best climbers, has great guns, and can out turn anything faster then it except LA and K4 which have also been called easy mode by pilots before.
If a 38 has an alt advantage in a fight its too easy to control a furball since it will out climb any plane that is lower with pretty close speed. Now 38 Gs are a different sorry just like the La5 compared to the 7, its just that much slower to make it not that easy. Personally I think all the F4us, 51s, and 38s should be considered easy mode unless the flying of someone has showed they actually know what they are doing because anyone can perch grab :salute
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I don't think there's one plane in the set that hasn't been called ez-mode.... Maybe the 190-F8.
Most people still can't fly the 'ez-mode' planes anyways.
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I was bored with EW and MW flying Hurri2c and other cannon birds, because it's too easy to kill with them. I switched to Hurri-1 with only .303's and have had a blast for the last few months because I actually have to fly and work for kills.
This is as it should be, a constant self-challenge to make yourself fly better. Pretty soon you wonder why anyone would want to fly a perk plane.
- oldman
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My reasoning behind 38s being easy mode (along with Steves 51 :D) is that 38s are one of the fastest planes, one of the best climbers, has great guns, and can out turn anything faster then it except LA and K4 which have also been called easy mode by pilots before.
If a 38 has an alt advantage in a fight its too easy to control a furball since it will out climb any plane that is lower with pretty close speed.
Just about any plane with an alt advantage is EZ mode. You haven't said anything.
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My favorite (right now anyways) perk-farming planes are the A6M2 (more maneuvrable and higher ENY than A6M5b) and the 109g2, and the FW 190A-5. The Yak 9t is also a good perk farmer, and I've had my Yak phases in that bird (not saying I was any good at it, just that I liked to do it). And then, to blow my perks, I like to fly the 262.
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I can't hit anything in a 38. I see people land multiple kills in them sometimes and just don't get it. Might be that my vertical game is just worse than horizontal in one. The guns dead off the nose in most planes throws my sum off a lot as well.
whatt? p38 guns are some of the easiest to hit with. damn nose mounted deathray.
a8=furball pickstyle
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Just about any plane with an alt advantage is EZ mode. You haven't said anything.
Exactly. It also seems like he has very little experience, if any in the Lightning.
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I can't get used to the aim in a 38 is all.
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Just about any plane with an alt advantage is EZ mode. You haven't said anything.
But the stengths of this plane make it alot easier to hold the alt above a furball. Spits are actually pretty hard because they cant dive too fast and also they tend to want to turn more, 51s yet alot faster cant handle as good as the 38 so have more problems with the 1 guy who comes in at 20k, F4Us have a horrible climbrate so planes with co E below them can force them to dive away from a furball. 38 is EZ easy mode in MA
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I can't get used to the aim in a 38 is all.
if the gun's are set right.....(cannon) <---------killer firepower :aok
you leave the guns set @ default......----------not so much :huh
spend time gettin killed in it and learn to fly it...loads of fun
froger
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But the stengths of this plane make it alot easier to hold the alt above a furball.
No way. You are talking out some orifice other than your mouth. :D
Holding alt has more to do with speed than climb rate.. although it's not exclusive. Any of the mid to late 109's would be much better suited, d9... serveral others. 38 is a nice plane and the J & L are fairly quick but they have a couple of very very exploitable weaknesses.
For one, escaping a diving 38 is almost as easy as escaping a diving 109: Wait til the 38's controls start to get heavy and roll under or break in about any direction. This doesn't make for a great BnZ airplane.
Views aren't that great and in a BnZ mode, views are important.
It's a huge target.
51s yet alot faster cant handle as good as the 38
Are you high?
Look, I admit the 51 is a mediocre plane compared to other late war rides but in a BnZ mode, it greatly outclasses the 38.
No, the 38 does not handle better than a pony... No it doesnt. Unless we are talking in mid to slow speed turn. What BnZ guy is going to do that with any expectaion of success?
Here's a good tidbit: at any speed where the 38J or L does not have flaps out, the 51 turns better. Seriously. This is relevent becuase flaps, even one notch, burn E. A BnZ'er who wants to stay alive is going to horde every drop of E.
Here's another tidbit: the 51D and the 38J & L have almost identical climb rates at MA alts. in fact, at some MA alts the 51 outclimbs the 38. This is without WEP. With WEP the 38 climbs marginally... marginally better.
Here's another: the 38 accelerates only marginally better than the 51... and from 0 to 300 they are almost identical.
Zoom: I would imagine the pony is better for 2 reasons: less drag, better elevator authority to get the nose back up after a high speed pass.
Torque: a 51 pilot can make this work to his advantage too, using torque to pull him over at the top of a rope.
Other than lethality and ammo load, I don't see how the 38 is better above a fight than the pony.
so have more problems with the 1 guy who comes in at 20k
You're still high? :D
51 has a significant edge in evading a higher con over the 38. It's faster, has better high speed handling, and is a much smaller target.
If I'm wrong, I'd like to be corrected. AKAK? 38 sticks?
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202 is a blast and so is the hurri1. Don't fly them much in the mains but in the DA I can rack up 4 in a Hurri and 6 in a 202 .....long as i stay outta the furball that is.
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Perk farming....I've been training with da 190A5 for 3 weeks now, made about 900 perks on that. Using a dog in the MA is always more gratifying than using da uber ride, and you feel like actually learning something ! After tunisia I'ill have plenty to spend on some spit14 furballing :aok
Give a try to the 109F4, that bird is pleasure made AH real.
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how did those 190 a5's go in the scenario ? :D
from my film in frame 2 looked as if you tried to take shots at my beautiful bird a couple of times.
I Killed GORKLLEEE!!!! last frame.
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we didn't go to well in the last frame...I lost my 2 lives for the first time in any scenario ! But I guess staying alive in a scenario higly depends on what both Co's decided. First 2 frames was a blast tho, I reckon I have 5+ in each.
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perk the K4 and 38s then :O perk em I say like early in the mornin when you drink that second cup of coffee and things get perkin
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I believe a P38 has a smaller profile then a P51. But it's no way easy-mode. If anything, it's the hardest plane to master in the planeset.....IMO.
The 38 is not great in anyone area, but not bad either. The true 38 sticks have been around for awhile and know how and when to exploit the other planes weaknesses while playing to the P38s strong points at the right moment in a dog-fight.
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No way. You are talking out some orifice other than your mouth. :D
If I'm wrong, I'd like to be corrected. AKAK? 38 sticks?
Quite right Steve. I'm wondering if Junky has flown the 38 at all.
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The 38 once learned is a straight -up killin machine. I've been messin with it allot and have found it to be extremely capable. Its verticle ability may be the very best, there is more to the verticle fight than raw climb rate and zoom. The best word for the 38s verticle ability may be "manipulate" It can manipulate a verticle fight in such fine and minute detail that it is pretty amazing for such a big plane! I believe the 38 to be one of the hardest to learn, with that said I also believe once the 38 is second nature to you it may be in the top 2 or 3 rides in ability! There are some things very easy in the 38, one of which is its instantaneous turn ablity "must be the large wing and very ample elevators" This ability makes deception and overshoots very easy to perform, and it is very very tough. The corsair may be the only other plane that is better at creating overshoots in! Anyway my point is, the 38 is like a formula 1 race car. NO-ONE will just get in it and be successful, it takes time but when learned it is the UBER of the UBER! :aok
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The 38 once learned is a straight -up killin machine. I've been messin with it allot and have found it to be extremely capable. Its verticle ability may be the very best, there is more to the verticle fight than raw climb rate and zoom. The best word for the 38s verticle ability may be "manipulate" It can manipulate a verticle fight in such fine and minute detail that it is pretty amazing for such a big plane! I believe the 38 to be one of the hardest to learn, with that said I also believe once the 38 is second nature to you it may be in the top 2 or 3 rides in ability! There are some things very easy in the 38, one of which is its instantaneous turn ablity "must be the large wing and very ample elevators" This ability makes deception and overshoots very easy to perform, and it is very very tough. The corsair may be the only other plane that is better at creating overshoots in! Anyway my point is, the 38 is like a formula 1 race car. NO-ONE will just get in it and be successful, it takes time but when learned it is the UBER of the UBER! :aok
well like I said, the 38 is a nice ride. Certainly in the hands of a good stick like yourself it's going to be dangerous. It's just my findings that it's not easy mode.
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well like I said, the 38 is a nice ride. Certainly in the hands of a good stick like yourself it's going to be dangerous. It's just my findings that it's not easy mode.
Well you give me too much credit, but TY. I agree it is NOT easy mode :aok
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In game the 38G is about as fast as the J or L without wep. The G turns a tad bit better. I attribute the better turn to less weight in fuel. The G has no leading edge fuel tanks. While it means less weight it also means less mission radius for the same percent fuel loadout.
If your flying a 38 from a high perch your missing some of the best fun in a 38. On the deck the 38 can be great fun.
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If I'm wrong, I'd like to be corrected. AKAK? 38 sticks?
The only incorrect person is JunkyII, which is clear from his comments that he has no clue as to what he's speaking of.
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