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Title: Must read
Post by: LCCajun on April 28, 2009, 07:31:02 AM
Hey guys I found this on accident it is a must read really shows how it was more of machine against machine in WWII. Here is the link http://www.acesofww2.com/germany/aces/Hartmann.htm If you don't read all I would say check this part out USAAF VS VVS which is really something else it is towards the bottom. I have also read An Ace of the Eighth by Norman "Bud" Fortier which I think is a good book. If anybody knows of anymore books that I should read please post them <S>.
Title: Re: Must read
Post by: Obie303 on April 28, 2009, 07:47:21 AM
This is a great website I've used for research for many years.  It covers many aces and a brief glimps into their combat tours.  One that I found very interesting was Witold Urbanowicz.  A Polish pilot that flew with four (4) air forces during the war.  I was also surprised to hear how he described Tex Hill when he flew with the Tigers in 43'

http://www.chapshq.com/html_pages/witold_urbanowicz.htm (http://www.chapshq.com/html_pages/witold_urbanowicz.htm)
Title: Re: Must read
Post by: oakranger on April 28, 2009, 09:21:11 AM
Do I hate the Russians?
“One thing I've learned is this: Never allow yourself to hate a people because of the actions of a few. Hatred and bigotry destroyed my nation, and millions died. I would hope that most people did not hate Germans because of the Nazis, or Americans because of slaves. Never hate, it only eats you alive. Keep an open mind and always look for the good in people. You may be surprised at what you find.”

- Erich Hartmann



That's strong words.  Maybe some ppl on AH need to learn this.
Title: Re: Must read
Post by: LCCajun on April 28, 2009, 10:07:14 AM
I agree oak. I was gonna put that as my signature. But I figured ppl think I hate them I don't hate anybody just sometimes get irritated by them.
Title: Re: Must read
Post by: Obie303 on April 28, 2009, 10:25:06 AM
This book by William N. Hess is about American pilots.  Just a few stories but very fascinating.

http://books.google.com/books?id=80M51n8bJbcC&pg=PP1&dq=inauthor:%22William+N.+Hess%22#PPP1,M1 (http://books.google.com/books?id=80M51n8bJbcC&pg=PP1&dq=inauthor:%22William+N.+Hess%22#PPP1,M1)

These books are about the Polish Air Force. 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Forgotten-Few-Polish-Force-World/dp/1844150909 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Forgotten-Few-Polish-Force-World/dp/1844150909)
http://www.amazon.com/Question-Honor-Kosciuszko-Squadron-Forgotten/dp/0375411976 (http://www.amazon.com/Question-Honor-Kosciuszko-Squadron-Forgotten/dp/0375411976)

This is about the 71 RAF Squadron.
http://www.thefewbook.com/home.html (http://www.thefewbook.com/home.html)

That should keep you busy if you like to read.  (I've read them all.  You won't be disappointed!)
Title: Re: Must read
Post by: Bark0 on April 28, 2009, 03:57:45 PM
I always found Eric Hartman to be an Interesting person. Hitler did not only kill Jews but he considered people who had Blonde Hair and Blue eyes were Jewish, So however Hartman got into the Luftwaffe without killing his family confuses me, But hey, I can't know everything about WWII. ;)
Title: Re: Must read
Post by: oakranger on April 28, 2009, 04:01:18 PM
I always found Eric Hartman to be an Interesting person. Hitler did not only kill Jews but he considered people who had Blonde Hair and Blue eyes were Jewish, So however Hartman got into the Luftwaffe without killing his family confuses me, But hey, I can't know everything about WWII. ;)

That's the thing about Luftwaffe.  They had nothing to do with the Jewish final solutions.  All them boys want to do is fly and get into a huge furball.
Title: Re: Must read
Post by: Motherland on April 28, 2009, 04:19:08 PM
I always found Eric Hartman to be an Interesting person. Hitler did not only kill Jews but he considered people who had Blonde Hair and Blue eyes were Jewish, So however Hartman got into the Luftwaffe without killing his family confuses me, But hey, I can't know everything about WWII. ;)
What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Must read
Post by: ink on April 28, 2009, 04:22:58 PM
What are you talking about?

wondering same thing?????????????
Title: Re: Must read
Post by: mbailey on April 28, 2009, 04:31:56 PM
wondering same thing?????????????

+3  :huh
Title: Re: Must read
Post by: ink on April 28, 2009, 11:23:37 PM
+3  :huh

it must have been in a alternate dimension :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Must read
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 29, 2009, 02:00:05 AM
it must have been in a alternate dimension :rolleyes:

LSD

But I really like the "alternate dimension" theory.



wrongway
Title: Re: Must read
Post by: Nilsen on April 29, 2009, 03:27:53 AM
I always found Eric Hartman to be an Interesting person. Hitler did not only kill Jews but he considered people who had Blonde Hair and Blue eyes were Jewish, So however Hartman got into the Luftwaffe without killing his family confuses me, But hey, I can't know everything about WWII. ;)

 :confused:
Title: Re: Must read
Post by: Marauding Conan on April 29, 2009, 06:10:30 AM
I always found Eric Hartman to be an Interesting person. Hitler did not only kill Jews but he considered people who had Blonde Hair and Blue eyes were Jewish, So however Hartman got into the Luftwaffe without killing his family confuses me, But hey, I can't know everything about WWII. ;)

Mate, I believe you are a bit confused. Blonde hair and blue eyes were the ideal aryans for the nazi government.
Title: Re: Must read
Post by: Masherbrum on April 29, 2009, 09:03:10 AM
I always found Eric Hartman to be an Interesting person. Hitler did not only kill Jews but he considered people who had Blonde Hair and Blue eyes were Jewish, So however Hartman got into the Luftwaffe without killing his family confuses me, But hey, I can't know everything about WWII. ;)

As they sometimes say in the Military:  "What the ^&*( over?"  :huh
Title: Re: Must read
Post by: Dragon on April 29, 2009, 09:11:57 AM
But hey, I can't know anything about WWII. ;)


Fixed
Title: Re: Must read
Post by: Lusche on April 29, 2009, 09:23:32 AM
That's the thing about Luftwaffe.  They had nothing to do with the Jewish final solutions.  All them boys want to do is fly and get into a huge furball.

Horrible oversimplification. Basically it's just perpetuating the myth of a "clean" Luftwaffe.