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Title: Help A Known Warper
Post by: Scherf on April 30, 2009, 05:17:05 AM
I put my hand up over in the "Known Warpers" thread for having a sawtooth pattern when I look at the steadiness of my connection.

WMLute kindly suggested I might have various bits of software phoning home.

So, as a belated first step, here's the processes I find myself running (gaaaak, so many...?)

Any of these provide clear targets to shut down / shut off / uninstall / delete?

TIA

Scherf


(http://www.users.bigpond.com/MSN/mhuxtable/proc1.jpg)

(http://www.users.bigpond.com/MSN/mhuxtable/proc2.jpg)

(http://www.users.bigpond.com/MSN/mhuxtable/proc3.jpg)

(http://www.users.bigpond.com/MSN/mhuxtable/proc4.jpg)
Title: Re: Help A Known Warper
Post by: Skuzzy on April 30, 2009, 05:56:36 AM
iTunes (any software from Apple) can cause warping.  Then you have RealPlayer as well.  McAfee.  Google stuff.

There probably is more.  66 processes is just too many.  When you get it down to around 20, you will be a very happy camper.  Your computer will feel like a new system.
Title: Re: Help A Known Warper
Post by: AirFlyer on April 30, 2009, 06:48:33 AM
From the SS's heres the ones I can tell you technically don't need to run Microsoft...

hpqste08, hpswp_clipbook.exe, hpqtra08, BTTray.exe, E_FATIEDP.EXE, GoogleToolBarNot..., iTunesHelper.exe, realsched.exe, hpwuSchd2.exe, jusched.exe, mcsysmon.exe, DVDLauncher.exe, mcagent.exe, iPodService.exe, msksrver.exe, iFrmewrk.exe, mcsysmon.exe, MpfSrv.exe, McSACore.exe, jqs.exe, Regservice.exe, mDNSResponer..., Mcshield, AppleMobileDevice..., McProxy, McNASvc, GoogleUpdate.exe.

A few things could also be removed that I didn't mention, mostly I would look at anything that starts with HP as it all seems to be releated to an HP Printer. On a curious note E_FATIEDP.EXE seems to belong to an Epson Printer, which I have to assume you don't have both. An other thing is a lot of these programs are McAfee which IMO is a horrible Anti-Virus Program. I would either suggest Nod32 or Avast in that order. Aside from that no one knows your computer like you so I would suggest Googleing a lot of this to see what they do then make a decision. A lot of these programs have to do with hardware that I don't know if you still have installed or not.
Title: Re: Help A Known Warper
Post by: Ghosth on April 30, 2009, 06:55:27 AM
http://www.glaryutilities.com/

Download the free version.

Keep running the 1 click fix until it comes up clean.
Then go into modules, optimise, windows startup menu manager.

See whats starting that doesn't really need to.
If your not sure, google it, should be a link right in glary.

Then reboot, glary, system tools, process manager, and do the same thing.

You too can have a clean lean smooth running machine. You can do this stuff!
Title: Re: Help A Known Warper
Post by: Scherf on April 30, 2009, 04:00:25 PM
Many thanks gents.

Every time I set up a new printer (I work on contract, so it happens a lot) I get some surprise or another. Didn't know about the iTunes stuff etc.

Is Adobe Acrobat another likely culprit?

Thanks anyway,

Scherf
Title: Re: Help A Known Warper
Post by: Fulmar on April 30, 2009, 04:34:32 PM
I turn off Acrobat speed launch.  Serves no real use.  Also, you can disable that jqs.exe in your start up as well, it just an update service that runs for Java, no need for it.
Title: Re: Help A Known Warper
Post by: Sundowner on April 30, 2009, 08:45:38 PM
Check out this site with a list of task processes:
(Click on the "Task List" button at the bottom.)
http://www.answersthatwork.com/

I don't use their "Ultimate Troubleshooter" package but the task list is very helpful.

Tip:Open task manager then click "options/always on top" for more convenient viewing of the task list page and task manager.

Regards,
Sun

"Through our IT Consultancy, Support and HelpDesk Services we often come across PC problems caused primarily by programs running in the background, programs which in most cases are started automatically when Windows boots up.  65% of computer problems we solve are caused by such programs.  Sometimes these programs are useful and need to be there;  quite often, however, they are not needed, and in too many cases they cause severe problems, and this includes some of Microsoft's own XP Services and Vista Services !

The pages below provide guidance on the usefulness or not of some of these background tasks, Windows 2000/XP/2003/Vista services, and Windows Startups, and removal procedures when recommended...."
Title: Re: Help A Known Warper
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 01, 2009, 07:20:03 AM
66 processes!!!

You been messing around with my wife??

Typically the mess I get to clean up every couple of months on my wifes machine.
wouldnt be at all surprised if you found some spyware on there too

Dump Mcaffe for Eset
Turn off or disable anything that updates or loads automatically on boot up like quicktime. Real player, AOL.
Or anything thats a toolbar.

Everything you turn off that you dont uninstall will work just fine when you need it. Provided you are willing to wait the extra 2.5 seconds it will take for it to load. Or that your not too lazy to click on the Icon or manually run the appropriate program.
Granted if you used your machine alot for things like business. There may be some things you dont want to turn off such as certain printer features
Get it down to at most 32 processes. Less is better but that amount is ...tolerable.

I am wondering. Is it possible to set XP up to duel boot with different configurations? Say one for AH and game play which would only have minimal processes and one for business and general use?

Last time I did that was for on my old P100 machine when that was THE fastest you could get. So obviously its been a while. LOL
Title: Re: Help A Known Warper
Post by: Eagler on May 01, 2009, 09:59:51 AM
the tool here helped me get to under 24 process with XP pro

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,262548.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,262548.0.html)
Title: Re: Help A Known Warper
Post by: _vic_ on May 01, 2009, 10:22:12 AM
Personally, I just click Start - Run and type "msconfig" then disable pretty much everything under the "startup" tab...

There's very *very* rarely anything in there that needs to be running (except perhaps nwiz, if you have an NVidia graphics card - and maybe antivirus if that's how you roll... personally don't use antivirus software, but I'm a maverick)

Title: Re: Help A Known Warper
Post by: Fulmar on May 01, 2009, 04:42:46 PM
Personally, I just click Start - Run and type "msconfig" then disable pretty much everything under the "startup" tab...

There's very *very* rarely anything in there that needs to be running (except perhaps nwiz, if you have an NVidia graphics card - and maybe antivirus if that's how you roll... personally don't use antivirus software, but I'm a maverick)


And also use services.msc
Title: Re: Help A Known Warper
Post by: Condor on May 04, 2009, 12:10:33 PM
Take a look at this.
http://snomhf.exofire.net/alacrityPC.html
Alacrity PC will shut down unecessary porcessees and programs and start the game with the click of an icon.  It restarts them when you exitthe game.  It takes a little setting up but Homeboy posted a great guide on his web site   
Title: Re: Help A Known Warper
Post by: Charge on May 05, 2009, 03:47:05 AM
During our spring con here in Finland I had my wife's laptop with me with fresh AH installation and we just could not get its network connection to work properly in AH no matter what we did.

Removed and updated drivers, tried WLAN and cable connection, cleaned all unnecessary processes, disabled firewall and virus scanners after thorough scanning etc etc. No luck.

Considering that you can get a desktop comp warp as well by using some power saving throttling power-scheme I concluded that that would be the cause and switched to max performance settings, but Duke was using a similar laptop with similar settings with no problems.

Of course people started telling me that I'm warping and soon I just quit playing because I didn't want to upset people by warping all around the sky.


I concluded that there was something wrong with Vista's own network module which would cause erratic behaviour no matter what you did.

I thought of just formatting the hard-drive and reinstalling Vista since when we got the comp I had to reinstall OS as it was behaving very strangely. Seeing more and more warpers around these days strangely coincides with the increasing amount of Vista OSs...  :noid

-C+
Title: Re: Help A Known Warper
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on May 05, 2009, 02:32:14 PM
With Vista you need to disable all the extra stuff from networking and leave only TCP/IP basically. Vista tries to tweak the network and completely destroys the traffic in the process.
Title: Re: Help A Known Warper
Post by: Scherf on October 16, 2009, 02:15:33 AM
Upgraded to 2 Gigs of RAM, used Glary Utilities to cut down to 27 orocesses total. I can now run the latest version smoooooooth as silk, though I do need to choose my view options wisely.

Many thanks gents.

 :salute

Golly-gee I love this game.
Title: Re: Help A Known Warper
Post by: Ghastly on October 16, 2009, 01:03:39 PM
Personally, I just click Start - Run and type "msconfig" then disable pretty much everything under the "startup" tab...

There's very *very* rarely anything in there that needs to be running (except perhaps nwiz, if you have an NVidia graphics card - and maybe antivirus if that's how you roll... personally don't use antivirus software, but I'm a maverick)



If you like MSConfig, try MS Autoruns instead - not only is msconfig is not meant to be anything other than a diagnostic tool but Autoruns shows you all the places things can launch from automatically, and has the provision to delete startup itemsor switch them off, instead of simply moving them to someplace else in the registry.

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