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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Banshee7 on May 02, 2009, 12:59:07 PM
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Last night I did something I haven't done in a looong time. I joined thndrEGGs Jug raid that was intended for an Airbase. Halfway to target the rooks captured the V-base we were trying to protect, so we took our 20 Jugs there. There was a FULL red dar bar there so I knew we were in for trouble. We got to target and was met by some fighters that had alt on us. We continued to level the hangars and kill all remaining GV's so we could recapture the base. Troops got strafed and it went downhill from there. Needless to say, there was a lot of whining going on 200 about using 20+ planes to take a V-base. Usually I would've agreed with the whining, but this time the "20+" planes went in against a full dar bar...most of the enemies had more alt.
So I decided to host a mission myself, mainly because country channel was in a slump and 200 whines were great. I put up a "WHINE-O-METER Raid" as it was named, consisting of 50 slots for Hurricane 2cs with 500lbs bombs. 30 slots were filled and we upped heading toward our original target of the Jug Raid. We didn't go NOE so we showed full dar bar the whole way. Objective of the mission: Pork Ord, radar, and barracks if possible. We proceeded towards base and met a little opposition. We succeeded in taking out ord and radar, but I'm not sure about the other targets. But my mission was an overall success, Everyone had FUN. We had a blast on range channel during the flight to the base. After the mission was over, several people were asking for more. So I gave it to them :t
On our Hurricane raid we found an enemy CV offshore of our target base. My next mission would be a classic. Mission options: TBMs, SBDs, and F4Fs, all with bombs. We took off from a land base not too far from our target only to get jumped by 2 SUPER high P-51Bs. They dove down and attacked us, killed a few. But we still had a decent size force headed to the CV. The closer we got to the CV the more opposition we faced, including puffy ack. Now this mission wasn't as large as the first one, had less than 20 joiners. We found the CV, fresh up, no flames, and we somehow managed to sink it. Yet ANOTHER mission success! A nice themed mission to enhance everyone's "fun factor." Country channel was a riot! The mood had lightened, and more people were having fun. Next I ventured somewhere that I dared not even admit :t
After the Marine/Navy Raid, people were still having a great time and wanting another mission. This time I wanted to try a base take to offer a back-door into the main target. So I posted a Russian themed mission to take the base. Mission consisted of La5s, La7s, Yak9Ts, Yak-9Us, and 1 P-39Q. We took off from our base and headed NOE ( :o). A great mission turnout (around 15 guys I do believe). As we get to the radar ring I decided to "pop" the mission and let everyone climb. When we took off for this base there was already a medium sized dar bar. When we got their it was a lone IL2 and a few fighters. We continue to hammer town
and within 5 minutes we had the base. Now the rooks were furious (red dar bars told us that), and the bish were having a blast! Everyone enjoyed the mission and had FUN, which is what this game is about.
I myself had fun last night. I usually don't do missions, but people know me as a "pot-stirrer." The WHINE-O-METER Raids did just that, as it stirred up a few good fights. A big #S# goes out to the mission joiners, and one to the rooks as well! Some great fights were had!
#S#
Banshee7
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Sounds like a real good time was had by all, sorry I missed it :rock
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No one has ever argued that there shouldn't be missions.
But your story is missing an important element that has been the focus of debate.
How much fun were the defenders having with the "fight"?
30 hurri2c's is just another dweeb horde though...
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Banshee it sounds like a great time was had by all involved and the different themes you used provides a change up to the normal style of missions that abound in todays LW areanas . Congrats on your success .
Nutte :rock
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30 hurri2c's is just another dweeb horde though...
The point of that mission was to make them whine even more! The ratios/odds of the preceding mission was almost even, yet they whined immensely! That's why the name of the mission was "WHINE-O-METER Raid" :)
After we sank the CV there was some great GV battles and aerial battles at A4, V5, V6, and A7. If someone wasn't having fun, would they've kept upping? :)
Same goes for the base take mission. After we took that base it set up two bases real close to each other so it made for great low and slow fights. Again, the red dar bar was almost full and so was ours for a long time. I even had some great fights!
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The point of that mission was to make them whine even more!
Sounds productive...
Perception can be an interesting thing.
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Sounds productive...
Yet it was! It provided a fun time for the joiners, yet the whines were almost non-existent :huh. We could've very easily taken out the Fighter hangars and been "fun-police" for the other country, but we didn't. We DID take some pressure off of our V-base at the same time.
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Dammit tard7, I missed it.
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I was one of the defenders against those missions. In fact I think I defended against each of those missions. Was in Yak9-U's, various gv's, CV gunning, A20's and even a p38J I think. I had a great time. More fun than even this last TT. I can remember rolling up to that Vbase, don't remember which, and looking up to see all those Jugs. My first thought was 'Wow cool man', then quickly to "Ooo lots o' targets'. I must have died six times, laughing the entire time. So here's a thanks from a rook for making it fun. :salute
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I normally don't join mission's, hate being part of a hourd, but a Hurri2c mission, well I just had to join-up, it was fun, killed a couple red guys, then got a phone call, lol trying to fight and talk on the phone = quick trip to tower. :lol
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No one has ever argued that there shouldn't be missions.
But your story is missing an important element that has been the focus of debate.
How much fun were the defenders having with the "fight"?
30 hurri2c's is just another dweeb horde though...
Ya the whole Hord thing never happens on the knit/rook side ha scotch....
see a hord....up a hord....
froger
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No one has ever argued that there shouldn't be missions.
But your story is missing an important element that has been the focus of debate.
How much fun were the defenders having with the "fight"?
30 hurri2c's is just another dweeb horde though...
you guys crack me up..HOW would he know if a big % of the defenders were having a good time or not scotch??
everyone worried about the poor wittle defenders feewings against base attacks..
If it will help the defenders feel better,next time we will come in with KILTS ON,and bagpipes blaring so they will know EXACTLY where to meet us.. :P
And for those with really hurt feelings,I guess we will have to start suppling tissues to the defenders at the end of the battle.
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some of the best missions for me.....
GHIs 30 pluss B26 raids :aok
thunder eggs 40 pluss chog only missions
and of course the Tegg jugg raids.
love the stuka raids and i had the pleasure of being on a cv when a sbd
raid of at least 25 planes came to sink the cv and got it done.what a sight!
all this has made the game worth coming back for....
I'M just sayin!.......
froger
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I was one of the defenders against those missions. In fact I think I defended against each of those missions. Was in Yak9-U's, various gv's, CV gunning, A20's and even a p38J I think. I had a great time. More fun than even this last TT. I can remember rolling up to that Vbase, don't remember which, and looking up to see all those Jugs. My first thought was 'Wow cool man', then quickly to "Ooo lots o' targets'. I must have died six times, laughing the entire time. So here's a thanks from a rook for making it fun. :salute
What?! Impossible! You can't have FUN defending against a LARGE mission! How dare you defy those who have spoken the gospel truth that large missions are destroying Aces High....
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Banshee you went Bish? I just lost a bit of respect for you. Its not like the Horde needs more players
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I switch with low numbers. At the time Bishops had the lowest numbers of the arena (rooks outnumbered bish by 50 players).
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Ya the whole Hord thing never happens on the knit/rook side ha scotch....
see a hord....up a hord....
froger
I never mentioned sides. I switch sides all the time. Because it does or does not happen on one side doesn't make it any different or justifiable. It's not about sides. Shut up. You're done.
you guys crack me up..HOW would he know if a big % of the defenders were having a good time or not scotch??
everyone worried about the poor wittle defenders feewings against base attacks..
If it will help the defenders feel better,next time we will come in with KILTS ON,and bagpipes blaring so they will know EXACTLY where to meet us.. :P
And for those with really hurt feelings,I guess we will have to start suppling tissues to the defenders at the end of the battle.
It's not about feelings, it's about fair game play. If he knows enough to tell when they're whinning, he knows enough to tell when they're having fun. Shut up. You're done. Hippy!
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I never mentioned sides. I switch sides all the time. Because it does or does not happen on one side doesn't make it any different or justifiable. It's not about sides. Shut up. You're done.
It's not about feelings, it's about fair game play. If he knows enough to tell when they're whinning, he knows enough to tell when they're having fun. Shut up. You're done. Hippy!
If one can tell if they are having fun by the whines,then according to MANY on 200 the game is never fun..
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I concur with Banshee's assesment of the Jug mission. We intended it for an airbase, total takedown and capture. The dynamics of the situation forced us to reconsider (the Rook taking of V6), and so we chose to make V6 our capture target. Was a fun fight in. :O((I said the "F" word, OMG!!!))
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Forget about it Scotch... Some players insist in being only good for one thing.. Being shot down.
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Here's an idea...
All you professionals who are just too good, too proud, or too noble to fly in large missions, join a horde or take part in an NOE attack should petition HT to create a couple dozen 8-10 man arenas. Perhaps then you won't feel as inconvenienced...AND THE REST OF US WILL FINALLY GET A BREAK FROM YOUR CONSTANT COMPLAINING AND MOANING!!!
Nice work Banshee. Keep it up...the more you irritate the elitists the better.
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You don't get it. And we're not complaining. And I fly in large missions. Regardless of how good or proud or noble; it's got nothing to do with those. And I'm not inconvenienced, it's not about that either. Hell.. You dont get that we're not irritated by the actions of players so much as the lack of certain elements of gameplay.. But, if this is what you guys insist on.. Fine with me. I'll just keep shooting you down. You'll keep neglecting the other options the game gives you, not just for better pure ACM, but for your precious missions too.
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Never mind... Waste of time to point out certain truths, they will only be ignored by those who need to temper their positions.
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the more you irritate the elitists the better.
Remarkable. As if it's a bad thing to want to be elite.
Hey, if you want to be ordinary, go for it.
- oldman
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Remarkable. As if it's a bad thing to want to be elite.
Hey, if you want to be ordinary, go for it.
- oldman
Well, I believe that being elite and being an elitist are two different things. Perhaps you should research the terms.
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Well, I believe that being elite and being an elitist are two different things. Perhaps you should research the terms.
Perhaps I have.
- oldman
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Perhaps I have.
And yet you posted what you did? Interesting insight on your character then, eh?
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<S> Banshee7. I joined all but the last mission and had a great time. :rock :salute I usually shut 200 off when the windy whiners start in. I play for fun and relaxation and last night was it.
I was the lucky one who got the CV kill in my SBD! :O Just the right time I guess. Come on over anytime Banshee7, was a blast flying with you <S> :aok
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Hmmm...
You're not complaining...you're not inconvenienced...and you're not irritated. Yet you and your ilk spend hours on this BB, hitting effectively every post, pointing out how someone elses idea of how to have fun with this game is wrong. (An effective definition of 'elitist')
It is a game. Most of us are here for a few hours of fun and have no desire to meet your 'purist' definition of proper game play. If you want to be the greatest cartoon pilot ever...knock yourself out...but spare the rest of us your constant rants. Your comments are without fail belittling and demeaning to those who don't meet your standards of play. All you're really accomplishing is demonstrating your closed mindedness, immaturity and lack social graces.
There's an old cliche...'If you can't say something nice...don't say anything at all'.
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You know.. It might just be that these arguments have been gone thru so many times over the years, that now just about anyone who's paid attention to em can run thru the arguments blindfolded. Is that so far fetched ?
You think I'm purist? What's that got to do with it? You think I'm some kinda disciplined gung ho purist? You're off the mark again. Elitism? Playing to be the best? Been there, done that. Say something nice? Like be a complete hypocrit? If I were I wouldn't be saying what I've been saying. I'd mention all the "nice" things said in the game to/from the 8 or 9 people out of 10 I play with or against, but that'd be self-serving..
Have you considered that you simply can't help but read too much into what are some plain simple rhetoric about the clinical mechanics of gameplay? Does that just not compute, somehow? Yeah, now I'm being condescending, because in all honesty I don't understand how you could fail to see that that's the kind of "rant" that all these threads are, and not about what kind of person anyone is. Just the type of gameplay they give. Look at the worst rant that I do get hot and bothered about.. Spitfires. I despise spitfires.. Just no taste for them. But nowhere does any of it spill over onto distaste for spit drivers. If I have distaste for spit drivers, it's in a really non-specific abstract sense, only in the archetypal sense. No personal attack to it. No argument that they ought to not fly spits, or have fun with em, or have a passion for em.
It's the same with hordes. But then if some of you guys want to be living breathing allegories, that's up to you.
And again, this bears repeating and asking.. How exactly is anyone forcing anything via text on a virtual forum? You don't like the threads where people debate some parts of the game? Don't read em! Don't reply to em! You keep saying you can't stand such and such people "imposing" on what others do or don't for gameplay, but then you turn coat and demand that people stop that intolerably pertinent arguing! :lol
"Me and my ilk" :lol Speaking of social graces...
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Moot, did you insert the word "purist" (purism) where he meant "elitist" (elitism)?
Purist (Purism): A purist is one who desires that an item remain true to its essence and free from adulterating or diluting influences. The term may be used in almost any field, and can be applied either to the self or to others. Use of the term may be either pejorative or complimentary, depending on context. Because the appellation depends on subjective notions of what is "pure" as opposed to "adulterating" as applied to any particular item, conflict can arise both as to whether a person so labeled is actually a purist and as to whether that is desirable.
Or...
Elitist (Elitism): The term elitism is also sometimes used to denote situations in which a group of people claiming to possess high abilities or simply an in-group or cadre grant themselves extra privileges at the expense of others. This form of elitism may be described as discrimination.
Honestly, I think there is an important disticntion between Purist (purism) and Elitist (elitism)...
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I didn't insert anything that wasn't there. It's right there in his post to me.
The only amiguity I would see would be purist and puritan, and elitist and elite. Purism and elitism are totally separate things.
And .. look here!And yet you posted what you did? Interesting insight on your character then, eh?
Why hasn't someone reported this man for being "belittling and demeaning"?? :lol
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And yet you posted what you did? Interesting insight on your character then, eh?
Dave, you are definately missing the point if you are going to try and make Oldman one of the bad guys here. One of the classiest, most laid back fair people in the game, and that's despite his being a lawyer! :)
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Typical.. See Oldman encourage exellence, and debase it as somehow suspicious.. Maybe Oldman wants all players to be excellent.. How belittling and demeaning of him..
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Banshee you went Bish? I just lost a bit of respect for you. Its not like the Horde needs more players
Why? Bish have been low numbers all week. The last part is delicious irony.
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If they stop hording, then how am I supposed to get all those sweet maneuver kills?
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Need more HO's...they are one on one. :devil
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrbn785E5Bk
I found a song for you Banshee.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrbn785E5Bk
I found a song for you Banshee.
:rofl Love that movie
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Why? Bish have been low numbers all week. The last part is delicious irony.
Dang Karaya, I thought with all the swine flu school closings Bish #'s would explode. :D
<S> Bud
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Ban the Oldman!!!!!
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that's despite his being a lawyer! :)
I didn't know that... it is too bad that 'kill shooter' is enabled. :D
j/k Oldman
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Oldman you're a lawyer?Great........ Now i got this visual of William Shatner kissing James Spader....AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
I'm not just a "Ban Boston Legal" Member...I'm the President :D
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Oldman you're a lawyer?Great........ Now i got this visual of William Shatner kissing James Spader....AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
I'm not just a "Ban Boston Legal" Member...I'm the President :D
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/3662419/10081463
- oldman
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sounds like you had a blast banshee :rock