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Title: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: xtyger on May 02, 2009, 04:47:52 PM
Does Hitech want reports of people suspected of scamming the 2 week free trial period? You know, the ones who keep signing up for 2 week free trials under different user IDs? I'm not sure Hitech can really do much about it but thought I'd ask.

There. Thanks for the suggestion to modify it. I've e-mailed the post to hitech.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: xtyger on May 02, 2009, 04:50:29 PM
Ooops. Just realized this topic is against the rules but don't know how to delete it. I'll copy and paste it on to an e- mail for hitech. Sorry.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: StokesAk on May 02, 2009, 04:53:31 PM
Might be a shade vultcher. :)
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: james on May 02, 2009, 04:54:03 PM
I would email support@hitechcreations.com instead of putting it on the bbs here man. Especially naming names and all.
 
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: PFactorDave on May 02, 2009, 04:56:58 PM
Ooops. Just realized this topic is against the rules but don't know how to delete it. I'll copy and paste it on to an e- mail for hitech. Sorry.

If you can still modify your original post, just go in and delete the text you wrote.  There will still be a thread and a post, it just won't say what it does now.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: 100Coogn on May 02, 2009, 05:02:04 PM
I don't think you can delete AHII the re-install and get two weeks free again.
I'm pretty sure Hitech has that covered.

Coogan


Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: xtyger on May 02, 2009, 05:08:42 PM
I would have thought so, too. I just found it odd he shows up out of nowhere and seems to do it- at least so far- in 2 week increments.

I'm sure if someone worked on it they could figure a way around it. Uninstall game, delete cookies, switch IP addresses, and so forth.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Lusche on May 02, 2009, 05:12:30 PM
IMHO public speculation about the way how it could work isn't a good idea either...
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Larry on May 02, 2009, 05:13:37 PM
I don't think you can delete AHII the re-install and get two weeks free again.
I'm pretty sure Hitech has that covered.

Coogan





There is a way to do it. When I deleted my account a while back I was able to get anther free trail when I signed back up.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: froger on May 02, 2009, 05:59:34 PM
Really?  your kidding right?

why worry about some knuckle head trying to steal 15 bucks from htc...
how many cheap dumb arsees could there be.....

get a life kids...go turn in your bottles and cans and pay the dues...
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: hitech on May 02, 2009, 06:20:38 PM
Please email us the Game id.

HiTech
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: xtyger on May 02, 2009, 09:16:36 PM
The first game ID he used was Whambam. Second was Topdog.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: gpwurzel on May 02, 2009, 09:25:40 PM
Email Tyger, email - I'd edit that post too mate.....



Wurzel
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: thndregg on May 02, 2009, 09:45:52 PM
Use E-MAIL. To post accusations with member names in a FORUM violates rules.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: coola4me on May 02, 2009, 10:44:53 PM
Its also a little suspicious to of had a 34 k/d last tour in fighter! (http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/skep.gif) 34 kills in 12 sorties! hmmm! (http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/naughty.gif)

<S> xtiger I'm not sure i could of kept my composure (http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/shakingmad.gif) if it was me he was giving such a hard time to, like he was doing to you!
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Motherland on May 02, 2009, 10:47:46 PM
Its also a little suspicious to of had a 34 k/d last tour in fighter! (http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/skep.gif) 34 kills in 12 sorties! hmmm! (http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/naughty.gif)
That's less than 3 kills/sortie...
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Xasthur on May 03, 2009, 12:06:49 AM
............Which is outstanding for someone on a trial
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Motherland on May 03, 2009, 12:08:00 AM
Oh, right. Brain fart, sorry, carry on :D
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Yeager on May 03, 2009, 12:40:08 AM
Once in ten years have I been able to sign up for a two week trial after 6 months or so of no account activity.

And then I did not renew after the trial.......for a few weeks, then I resubscribed.......

Go figure!!!!

If you cant afford $14.95 a month then you truly do suck "beyond words".....
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Larry on May 03, 2009, 02:01:05 AM
If you cant afford $14.95 a month then you truly do suck "beyond words".....

That is a very ignorant statement.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: crazyivan on May 03, 2009, 05:35:12 AM
That is a very ignorant statement.
someones got my vote for prom queen. jk actually i agree with you. Hit when someones down  kinda ghey.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: stodd on May 03, 2009, 07:42:57 AM
That is a very ignorant statement.
Agree 100%
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: xtyger on May 03, 2009, 08:02:03 AM
Email Tyger, email - I'd edit that post too mate.....

Leave it to me to do the forums after beer o'clock. That post doesn't have a "Modify" link like I used for the first post to change it.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: xtyger on May 03, 2009, 08:04:13 AM
............Which is outstanding for someone on a trial

And remember that's a Kill to Death ratio. He hadn't been killed so all his kills count up to a huge kill/death ratio. I believe I saw a kill on him before he changed names, though.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Shuffler on May 03, 2009, 08:30:02 AM
Try letting go and just do as Hitech posted.

No sense continuing this thread so can the possible problem might propagate.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: thndregg on May 03, 2009, 09:06:34 AM
If you cant afford $14.95 a month then you truly do suck "beyond words".....

A lot of us aren't that far off from not affording it. Reconsider what you just stated with unemployment as high as it is and families to feed, bud.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: lazydog on May 03, 2009, 09:27:05 AM
iv'e witness this guy also i don't think hes scamming the game but what i think he's doing is when he gets killed hes changing his name the 1st name he had up to 77 kills no deaths then i seen he had 1 death he changed the name to wham bam and so on
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: xtyger on May 03, 2009, 09:46:14 AM
Interesting thought, LD. What's odd is he lasted about two weeks with his first name before switching (although maybe the kill is why he did it). I've marked my calendar to see if he disappears in another two weeks.

Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Strip on May 03, 2009, 11:26:36 AM
Frankly the guy is nothing special....the way he flies its not suprising is k/d is high yet is k/t is low. Timid.....
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Banshee7 on May 03, 2009, 11:34:11 AM
aka Artorius
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: xtyger on May 03, 2009, 12:06:35 PM
I just noticed he got killed once. Probably yesterday. If he changes names again, that would support Lazydog's theory.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: A8TOOL on May 03, 2009, 02:09:03 PM
Heres something else they do with the trials.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/players.php?sortby=3&selectTour=LWTour111&playername=262a1&action=1
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: The Fugitive on May 03, 2009, 03:16:24 PM
Heres something else they do with the trials.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/players.php?sortby=3&selectTour=LWTour111&playername=262a1&action=1

UNBelievable !!! This poor guy must have nightmares about FBaAron  LOL!!!
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 03, 2009, 04:02:13 PM
Heres something else they do with the trials.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/players.php?sortby=3&selectTour=LWTour111&playername=262a1&action=1

So this guy is the squadron's shade account pin cushion that they use to pad their scores?  Sad.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Clone155 on May 03, 2009, 04:10:26 PM
Heres something else they do with the trials.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/players.php?sortby=3&selectTour=LWTour111&playername=262a1&action=1

I don't get it? It looks like an average score page to me  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: skullman on May 03, 2009, 04:17:49 PM
anything that  isnt aboveboard is pretty low.I am at the top of the suck list but it is done fairly
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: xtyger on May 03, 2009, 04:21:50 PM
I'm not sure but Lazydog might be right; He might be trying to keep just 0 kills on his scoresheet. Neither of the other ghosts have been playing today but there's a "Zeus" up in MidWar today with the same sort of scoresheet and I don't seen any scores for him over the last two months, so he must have just changed names again.

He also got my attention by texting an unasked- for snide remark along the same lines of the comments he made to me the other day.

Also, Rodent57 seems familiar with him so he's been up before under that name, although I don't see any scores for him except for beginning of this tour. It looks like he must be changing user ids regularly to make it look like he's never been shot down. I guess the guy has some issues to deal with.

As an aside, I'm surprised he gets those type of usernames back. You'd think someone would of scooped them up before him.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: WMLute on May 03, 2009, 04:46:08 PM
anything that  isnt aboveboard is pretty low.I am at the top of the suck list but it is done fairly

Click on the Killed By links.

Roughly half (220 ish) of their deaths were by FBAaron.

FBAaron got some explaining to do...
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: captain1ma on May 03, 2009, 05:00:18 PM
34 kills in 12 sorties! hmmm!

i know someone that does that in 5 sorties, and they're all legitimate kills. guess that blows that theory!
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: batch on May 03, 2009, 10:13:33 PM
FBAaron got some explaining to do...

Id say several in that squad appear to have some explaining to do.....
his isnt the only recurrent name on that list
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: MajWoody on May 03, 2009, 10:34:23 PM
Heres something else they do with the trials.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/players.php?sortby=3&selectTour=LWTour111&playername=262a1&action=1

WITCH HUNT!!!  BURN HIM!!!
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: DH367th on May 03, 2009, 10:41:18 PM
Lookin at the scores I doubt the other FB's had any idea not padding 1 or 2 kills.
Looks more couple squaddies flyin with 1 less than honrable squaddie.Figured they had a noob that just kept coming back.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: A8TOOL on May 04, 2009, 12:22:06 AM
No witch hunt. Remember what skuzzy said, he'll take that scoring sys away if we abuse it. I was only making a point that that is what some people use their 2nd accts. for. I probably should have used an old one that everyone already knew about as an example.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Cajunn on May 04, 2009, 12:40:12 AM
No witch hunt. Remember what skuzzy said, he'll take that scoring sys away if we abuse it. I was only making a point that that is what some people use their 2nd accts. for. I probably should have used an old one that everyone already knew about as an example.



It sure seems like abuse, and I think some questions need to be asked, but if he's paying for the 2 accounts how do you handle a situation like that. Is it cheating, not my call and he's only scamming the scoring system it's not as if he's winning any prizes and in the long run he's only hurting himself and his credibility.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: WMLute on May 04, 2009, 01:01:53 AM
Lookin at the scores I doubt the other FB's had any idea not padding 1 or 2 kills.
Looks more couple squaddies flyin with 1 less than honrable squaddie.Figured they had a noob that just kept coming back.

agreed.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: oakranger on May 04, 2009, 01:43:42 AM


It sure seems like abuse, and I think some questions need to be asked, but if he's paying for the 2 accounts how do you handle a situation like that. Is it cheating, not my call and he's only scamming the scoring system it's not as if he's winning any prizes and in the long run he's only hurting himself and his credibility.

He is right.  If this toolbox have two paid account, how can you classified him as a cheater.  Beside messing up the scoring systeme.  How desprate do you have to be to be rank #1, get a life.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 04, 2009, 03:02:28 AM
How desprate do you have to be to be rank #1, get a life.


Ask Biggamer how desperate he is to get #1 rank in the MW arena. 


ack-ack
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Rich46yo on May 04, 2009, 03:42:38 AM
Probably 9 out of 10 would call it dishonest play. I myself only call it cheating.

And it must be exhausting. Going to all that trouble just to end with with a K/D of 393/338.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Yeager on May 04, 2009, 09:18:48 AM
That is a very ignorant statement.
hit a nerve eh larry.  lol
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: xtyger on May 04, 2009, 09:23:54 AM
How desprate do you have to be to be rank #1, get a life.

Funny thing is, the guy in question couldn't ever get a #1 overall ranking. If you look at his stats he only seems to fly in Fighter mode. You can't get #1 overall only flying in Fighter mode. Maybe he just wants to be the #1 Fighter? Actually, I think he's got more issues going on than that.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: waystin2 on May 04, 2009, 09:37:56 AM
The Freebirds should dump this guy!
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: MORAY37 on May 04, 2009, 10:15:15 AM
Probably 9 out of 10 would call it dishonest play. I myself only call it cheating.

And it must be exhausting. Going to all that trouble just to end with with a K/D of 393/338.

My god Rich.  At least warn a guy.

I think I blew half a beer out my nose.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Harp00n on May 04, 2009, 11:13:28 AM
I don't think you can delete AHII the re-install and get two weeks free again.
I'm pretty sure Hitech has that covered.

Coogan




I think it was around 2000 when this was fixed ;)

I know that...errmmm..because I heard of it... Before this time you only had to use different email-accounts to get another 2 week trial... :D
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: AKDogg on May 04, 2009, 11:29:21 AM
Thats ok, I was told by a individual lastnight he has multiple accounts.  He said he has 5 acccounts and will have 6 by summertime,lol.  He supposely uses them to give him supplies/ bomb, etcc..
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: LLogann on May 04, 2009, 11:52:50 AM
This is true.  Although with various proxy tools, one can change their IP and/or use a "proxy" gateway to throw off the system.  But in the end, 90% of player's do not have the ability to reup their 2 weeks without waiting a year.
I don't think you can delete AHII the re-install and get two weeks free again.
I'm pretty sure Hitech has that covered.

Coogan

But those aren't trials.  He pays for them......  :confused: 
Thats ok, I was told by a individual lastnight he has multiple accounts.  He said he has 5 acccounts and will have 6 by summertime,lol.  He supposely uses them to give him supplies/ bomb, etcc..
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: CAP1 on May 04, 2009, 11:56:17 AM
i see a lot of pile-its in here, that don't care about score, apparently caring about score.  :noid
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Yeager on May 04, 2009, 01:23:32 PM
It looks like he must be changing user ids regularly to make it look like he's never been shot down. I guess the guy has some issues to deal with.
Back when artorious was yogibear I said something or did something that pissed him off.  I became his squeeky toy.  As such he griefed me pretty good for a few hours.

Finally I convinced him to go to the dueling arena and show me a few things.  After about an hour of getting smacked down over and over again (which he seemed to thoroughly enjoy over and over gain) I finally called it a day -but not before getting a real good glimpse into this guys online persona.  Definately not your standard online gaming cat.  The guy definately has got something odd going on upstairs.

Afterwards I went and checked his score, as I had never heard of nor seen him before....he had 97 kills and 2 deaths...all in spit9.

Still, I enjoyed it...well, sorta.....mostly.....kinda.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: xtyger on May 04, 2009, 01:34:52 PM
Back when artorious was yogibear I said something or did something that pissed him off.  I became his squeeky toy.  As such he griefed me pretty good for a few hours.
 The guy definately has got something odd going on upstairs.
Afterwards I went and checked his score, as I had never heard of nor seen him before....he had 97 kills and 2 deaths...all in spit9.

Yep, someone said they thought the guy I was talking about was artorious. That sounds like this guy. Nearly always in a Spit9 and, from what I've seen, makes sure to never put himself in any danger, usually staying up high and diving down on people already occupied or hitting uppers on deacked runways.

In fact, he just threatened me with the "squeeky toy" thing. That's exactly what he texted to me about an hour ago.

He said that after I refused to apologize for accusing him of scamming the free trials. I told him I hadn't been proved wrong, at least not yet and, in any case, I wasn't going to apologize to him for anything as he didn't deserve it. He then wrote that he paid his $15.00 just like everyone else and I told him I'd take his word for it. He wouldn't let that go, though.

Anyway, the guy does have some personal issues to deal with.

Oh, and BTW, I'm even more sure now that Lazydog was right about this guy's reason for changing names. Yesterday he was Zeus. Once Zeus got killed he changed his name to Hermes, which is what he was today before he logged off.

So far it's been Whambam>Topdog>Zeus>Hermes. All in a period of about 5 days.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: VansCrew1 on May 04, 2009, 02:10:03 PM
I knew someone that did that. His name was WindX(MrJinX) and he did that for at least a few months that i knew about when i was flying with him. As far as i know he was banned once HTC caught on to it.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Larry on May 04, 2009, 03:33:45 PM
hit a nerve eh larry.  lol

No, like I said your statement "If you cant afford $14.95 a month then you truly do suck "beyond words"....." is ignorant. Maybe one day you'll have to pay bills of your own and have a family to take of. Hopefully then you'll learn the value of a dollar.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: stodd on May 04, 2009, 05:18:58 PM
hit a nerve eh larry.  lol
Followed up by yet another stupid statement.



CONGRATS you made my sig..... I was looking for a really stupid statement to put in and that fits perfectly.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Cajunn on May 04, 2009, 06:09:35 PM
Followed up by yet another stupid statement.



CONGRATS you made my sig.... I was looking for a really stupid statement to put in and that fits perfectly.


:rofl
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Yeager on May 04, 2009, 11:06:03 PM
No, like I said your statement "If you cant afford $14.95 a month then you truly do suck "beyond words"....." is ignorant. Maybe one day you'll have to pay bills of your own and have a family to take of. Hopefully then you'll learn the value of a dollar.
chill larry.  like it matters or something :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Yeager on May 04, 2009, 11:08:23 PM
CONGRATS you made my sig..... I was looking for a really stupid statement to put in and that fits perfectly.
you are genuinely hard up for sig material  :D
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: Yeager on May 04, 2009, 11:14:01 PM

In fact, he just threatened me with the "squeeky toy" thing. That's exactly what he texted to me about an hour ago.

He said that after I refused to apologize for accusing him of scamming the free trials. I told him I hadn't been proved wrong, at least not yet and, in any case, I wasn't going to apologize to him for anything as he didn't deserve it. He then wrote that he paid his $15.00 just like everyone else and I told him I'd take his word for it. He wouldn't let that go, though.

The guy is very good at what he does, whoever he was/is/is going to be next.  I think the last person to hand me my own bellybutton so thoroughly was nathBDP.  Comes a point when you get knocked down enough times in a row you just stay down, and pray they go away.  I was very happy once he got his angst out on me in the DA.  He is my buddy now, whoever he is.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: xtyger on May 05, 2009, 07:49:21 AM
The guy is very good at what he does,

Quite frankly, I haven't seen anything extraordinary out of him. He tends to stay in situations where he's not threatened like vulching deacked runways or hanging out way above the fight and diving down on a target that's preoccupied with someone else.

He actually got a little bold yesterday and came after me while I was busy trying to stop m3s from dropping troops in the town. That's actually a pretty safe thing to do when it's 3 to 4 against 1. He made at least 4 passes and missed. He only got the kill when I made a last ditch suicide run on the m3 at the maproom and ran into the building.

Of course, then he comes up with the "Easy xtiger kill" line. I really felt, if I didn't have to deal with the troop carriers, I could have probably taken him fairly easily in that fight.

I am not impressed with him although I know Rodent57 seems pretty impressed. He just seems like a coward to me.
Title: Re: Scamming The 2 Week Free Trial
Post by: hitech on May 05, 2009, 08:02:51 AM
xtyger: As we said email us, this is not an appropriate discussion.

HiTech