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Title: what could this be?
Post by: niklas on November 14, 2001, 11:19:00 AM

(http://www.divetheworld.com/Projects-team/Projects/Unknown1/Sonar.gif)

it´s a sonar picture. from www.divetheworld.com. (http://www.divetheworld.com.)

Anybody has an idea which model it is?

niklas

Title: what could this be?
Post by: Raubvogel on November 14, 2001, 11:57:00 AM

Do you know where it was taken?

Title: what could this be?
Post by: HoHun on November 14, 2001, 02:16:00 PM

Hi Niklas,

the aircraft could be a Lockheed P2V Neptune, I think.

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)

Title: what could this be?
Post by: LLv34_Camouflage on November 14, 2001, 04:17:00 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Raubvogel:
Do you know where it was taken?

The North Sea.

Camo

Title: what could this be?
Post by: BenDover on November 14, 2001, 04:34:00 PM

it's ugly,is it french???

Title: what could this be?
Post by: Raubvogel on November 14, 2001, 05:00:00 PM

Kind of looks like an IL-2...but no idea what would be under it's wings.

Title: what could this be?
Post by: Kratzer on November 14, 2001, 05:24:00 PM

engines.

Title: what could this be?
Post by: Kratzer on November 14, 2001, 05:25:00 PM

actually... the wings look a lot like a 109, and the elevators just look distorted i think... 109 with rockets underwing in pods?

Title: what could this be?
Post by: Wmaker on November 14, 2001, 05:25:00 PM

Most probably a B-17C or B (I'm betting on the C) if you think about the location and look at the "bulged" side windows...

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Title: what could this be?
Post by: Tac on November 14, 2001, 05:26:00 PM

Looks like a flying boat. Catalina? Look at the tail, the turret pods are there. The tail and wings also correlate with a flying boat.

Title: what could this be?
Post by: DA98 on November 16, 2001, 03:39:00 PM

It's clearly a PB4Y Privateer, as said at  http://www.divetheworld.com/Projects-team/Projects/Unknown1/index.htm (http://www.divetheworld.com/Projects-team/Projects/Unknown1/index.htm) .

"There is a lot of discussion about it being a PB4Y Privateer but the wings don't seem long enough.  The tail seems to be different from the one on the Jane's picture also"

The image is distorted, so the wings and tail seems shorter than they are. If you expand it to make it wider with any image editing program, it clearly matches the silhouette.

 (http://www.divetheworld.com/Projects-team/Projects/Unknown1/sonar.gif)

 (http://www.divetheworld.com/Projects-team/Projects/Unknown1/pb4y-2.jpg)

Title: what could this be?
Post by: Serapis on November 16, 2001, 04:56:00 PM

What is the depth, does anybody know?

Charon

Title: what could this be?
Post by: Bluefish on November 16, 2001, 06:11:00 PM

Hmmm, wing width at root and the shape of the horiz stab don't look like Privateer, but the only other candidate would appear to be an early B17 and the fuselage shape and engine nacelles don't appear right for that.  Indeed a mystery.

Title: what could this be?
Post by: Rendar on November 16, 2001, 07:23:00 PM

Guys...it's not distorted...it's turned over on it's side.  I'm fairly sure of this.

Title: what could this be?
Post by: HoHun on November 17, 2001, 06:45:00 AM

Hi DA-98,

I agree with distortion and Privateer identification.

I withdraw my Neptune suggestion, the outer port engine shows clearly that the nacelle is faired into the upper wing, so it doesn't match the jet engine nacelle the Neptune carried under the wing. Wingtip shape doesn't match the Neptune's, either.

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)

Title: what could this be?
Post by: DA98 on November 17, 2001, 12:17:00 PM

I did a jpg with the two images mixed, the expanded sonar pic and the Privateer silhouette, and they match almost exactly. If anybody with some spare web space wants to post it...  :)