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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Warspawn on May 03, 2009, 04:58:10 PM
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Just wondering if anyone had any accounts of what kind of damage a 5" rocket or equivalent would do to a GV in WWII? I find them quite a bit lackluster vs even soft-skinned gv's...
Thanks!
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I did find a reference to the 60 pound semi-armour-piercing (SAP) head being capable of knocking turrets off tanks...that was the 6" 27kg warhead the RAF used.
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I was told that the rockets in FA did damage against tanks...
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I got a kill on a panzer a while back with a rocket. I hit the top of the turret with it.I don't know if the panzer already had damaged though. I was really surprised when it killed it but hey I am not complaining lol.
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I have killed GV's with them but I shoot them in three's, but the only tank was the panzer never any of the others. But i track all GV's at will.....
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I have only managed one time to kill a Tiger firing all six rockets from a P-51d.
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They are very lethal if they hit. They are very hard to hit with. The same rockets in WWII had a 1-2% hit rate. They were also only lethal if they hit. They were hard to hit with.
Seems fine to me.
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i think it 250 lbs of damage if direct hit
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http://files.filefront.com/pnz+F6+rockets+1223ahf/;13705443;/fileinfo.html
when fired at 45 degree to turret from high.
fire salvo 3 on any moving hard skin gv...tracks or kills
fire salvo 5 or 6 on stationary gv....goes boom
fire salvo 1 on jeeps or m3, m16, m8 or PT's
Use f6f or f4u or p47....can use P38 but wing span is wider.
Rockets fire straight.....no convergence.
hard skin Gv's fire at 400...on the pipper
soft skin Gv's 800 to 600
PT 1,000 to 800 ...compensate for drop
Tiffy rockets are very hard to aim....they drop off quick
190 rockets reported to be lethal but I have never used them so can't comment.
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my greatest feat with a rocket:
I was defending a port, I had an F4U, I see an LVT, after killing one already with some rockets, I had 3 or 4 left, I shoot and I hit it, the rocket bounced up and hit me and killed me. :lol
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my greatest feat with a rocket:
I was defending a port, I had an F4U, I see an LVT, after killing one already with some rockets, I had 3 or 4 left, I shoot and I hit it, the rocket bounced up and hit me and killed me. :lol
I used to see that happen a lot...never been killed by my own rocket before but close.
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I've been killed by and tracked by rockets before. It is always very impressive to be killed that way.
RE: HE stuff "bouncing": Shouldn't it explode when it hits? Did it tumble? I was shelling a carrier with a tank one night and saw the occasional HE round go bounding off the flight deck. I assume it is hitting nose down since it went up first....
Bad fuse? Sabotage? Spiez!!1!!?
wrongway
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I killed a panzer with a F4U-1D rocket, I'm pretty sure I got a direct hit to the butt on it.
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I find the the P-38L & F6F is fairly accurate and there doesn't seem to be the excessive drop like in the F4U's or P-47's. And that just might be me, now the P-38J rockets or the most accurate IMO.
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190 rockets reported to be lethal but I have never used them so can't comment.
I use thous on bombers, very easy to aim them.
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I killed a T-34 with a rocket in a 190.
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I use thous on bombers, very easy to aim them.
I think Cajunn means the x12 rockets on the 190F?
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Tiffy rockets are very hard to aim....they drop off quick
the Brit 60lb do seem to drop more than the US 5", either way a buildings the smallest thing I can hit with em :(
edit: are they fused at all? seems that you can fire them too late to arm.
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edit: are they fused at all? seems that you can fire them too late to arm.
Not sure if they were IRL, but when you manage to fire one on the ground in front of you while taxiing, you're toast :)
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I get kills with rockets all the time. M3s and M8s you just have to hit within 10 feet of, and for tanks if you hit near them I think you can track them. With the SKD-251 IDK what kind of rockets that thing has, but I have killed panzers before with those rockets just hitting close with 3 rockets. :rolleyes:
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You can kill tanks with them. But you have to hit them right on the head. Normally you will just track them.
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I've blasted Tigers with those fatty IL-2 rockets twice, but the American ones seem to pack a significantly weaker punch. Also, I think this sums it up pretty well:
They are very lethal if they hit. They are very hard to hit with. The same rockets in WWII had a 1-2% hit rate. They were also only lethal if they hit. They were hard to hit with.
Seems fine to me.
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For me it seems i have a 2 to 1 bounce ratio off tanks and i always come from a high angle 6 shot on them.
IDK but maybe its just bad luck that i get so many bounces. but it is tough to swallow when you do hit the tank on the top and your 5'' rocket goes flying into space.
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I shoot 5" rockets at GVs in volleys of two. On occasion I'll change that to 3 but I cant say thats every helped me. Ive knocked out Panzers and Shermans but not a whole lot of them. Then again if rockets are all you have. IL-2s rockets will hit direct to point of center aim at a certain % dive and distance from target. I wouldnt know how to find it out exactly but its fairly close to the target. Against tanks I have found IL-2 rockets to be useless.
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I think the rockets on the P-38G and J are the easiest to aim, as they are right under the fuselage.
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Got 3 panzer kills in one sortie with the rockets on the 190f-8. i would fly parallel to the ground at around 100 ft. and fire when the tank went under the cowling with salvo 2. If they hit the tank goes boom.
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<<< Uses the SAPP ignition system.
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I have killed tanks, it was what I considered a lucky hit, my goal is to track a tank or maybe take the turret out, I never intend to kill it with a rocket. But again you track it a take the turret out unless he has supplies that is usually a kill.
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Seeing that I can kill a Tiger with a single rocket hit from the 190F-8, I'd say the rockets are plenty lethal.
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my greatest feat with a rocket:
I was defending a port, I had an F4U, I see an LVT, after killing one already with some rockets, I had 3 or 4 left, I shoot and I hit it, the rocket bounced up and hit me and killed me. :lol
One night I was being a tard in a TBM off a CV attacking that island VBase in the middle of Baltic when I had my tail shot off and fell into a flat spin. Remember that rockets fire in your direction of travel, not where you aim them. This meant that when I dumped my HVARs they flew straight down and one nailed a Panzer right in the skull. Only tank kill I ever managed with rockets outside the old Il-2.
As a side note, here's a hilarious thing to do: Spawn on a carrier with a plane carrying rockets. Put the tailhook down. Slide the throttle up to 1 or 2 percent. You should start to be flung off the back of the carrier. Quickly salvo all of your rockets.
It could make a great AA defense.
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Prior to the new Il2 being released, I knew the guns on my Il2 would not pop the early and heavily sloped T34 so I fired my rockets, one at a time.
Amazingly, I hit the tank with one of the rockets just behind the turret on the engine compartment. That single hit sprite caused the tank almost impervious to the old Il2 to die instantly.
I don't ground pound often and I have yet to reproduce it. Most of the time, I can barely hit the ground with bombs or rockets.
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Got my second kill with a 190a8 rocket last night versus a typh. Had to aim high and let them go at 1k. Had about a 1.5 second between salvo's. Second rocket got him. Boom exploded. :O So i say the air to air rockets pretty lethal. I was surprised it even worked.
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Ive found the 5" rockets VERY useful against wirbles, if you can see a wirble firing alot of times you can turret them beyone 1.5 out..
trick is to stay fast, the faster you are going, the flatter they fly.. at 400mph they only hit a little bit below guns at 1.0
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Seeing that I can kill a Tiger with a single rocket hit from the 190F-8, I'd say the rockets are plenty lethal.
Im w/ ya on the 190 F. Plus you get 12 of those suckers.