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Title: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: TOMCAT21 on May 06, 2009, 09:42:49 AM
I am finding more and more lately that I have re-calibrate my joystick daily...I have a Saitek ST290 pro.. I notice my plane will drift left or right while in autopilot(or is that not related ?)
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: Getback on May 06, 2009, 09:45:56 AM
I am finding more and more lately that I have re-calibrate my joystick daily...I have a Saitek ST290 pro.. I notice my plane will drift left or right while in autopilot(or is that not related ?)

How old is it? Do you recalibrate at desktop first?
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: TOMCAT21 on May 06, 2009, 09:48:03 AM
its about a year or so old....most of the time I re-cal through game...once a week I go through desk top.
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: The Fugitive on May 06, 2009, 12:45:55 PM
the tiffy has a strong pull to one side in auto-pilot. Other might as well just not as strong. Do you fly the tiffy a lot?

As for the sticks, a year is sometimes the most you can expect. In the game, check the raw inputs to see if they are spiking at all, if they are your stick might be on its way out.
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: TOMCAT21 on May 06, 2009, 01:02:05 PM
once in a while a tiffy..thnks
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: Getback on May 06, 2009, 02:06:41 PM
One suggestion Tomcat, CH Products. You're good now, you will become great!
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: TOMCAT21 on May 06, 2009, 02:09:24 PM
heard about ch b4...never looked too much in to it...i will ...ty
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: Ghosth on May 07, 2009, 07:09:29 AM
First off increase dead band slightly in your roll and axis.

If your deadband is set too low any tiny wiggle might turn off autopilot. Then yes torque can make it slowly roll left or right depending on the plane.


Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: TOMCAT21 on May 07, 2009, 01:53:17 PM
i'll try that ghost..thanks
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: skullman on May 09, 2009, 09:11:18 AM
I use to have the same stick.I made apractice of recal when logging on as mine would wear outBy all means go with CH product.I bought the combat stick and love it.So much smoother.I wouldnt buy the x52 as I have seen too much negative comments on here.
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: TOMCAT21 on May 09, 2009, 09:31:16 AM
you got a website for ch products ?
i've done with what has been suggested and not improved at all..
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: The Fugitive on May 09, 2009, 10:29:43 AM
Provantage.com usually has the best prices for the CH stuff.
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: TOMCAT21 on May 09, 2009, 10:37:12 AM
fighterstick rohs ?
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: skullman on May 09, 2009, 02:36:54 PM
newegg has em also
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: The Fugitive on May 09, 2009, 04:00:56 PM
These are the two you need....

FighterStick (http://www.provantage.com/ch-200-571~7CHPU00N.htm)

Rudder Pedals (http://www.provantage.com/ch-300-111~7CHPU00K.htm) because the CH DOSE NOT MAKE a twisty stick.

The Throttle (http://www.provantage.com/ch-300-122~7CHPU00L.htm) is a great add-on but if your trying to save money you don't "need" it.... though that is what I told my wife  :D

The FighterStick has a throttle wheel, so you can set your throttle there. There are also 2 other CH sticks, but for the $20 more the FIghterStick is a better buy in my opinion. Newegg does have them, but at the time of this post the stick was $20 more and the pedals were $10 more.
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: TOMCAT21 on May 09, 2009, 04:19:25 PM
i dont even use rudder on my keyboard....prolly going to get the stick first and see how it works for me....thnks..
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: flatiron1 on May 10, 2009, 08:08:20 AM
keep your old stick hooked up and use in conjunction with your new one. I use the throttle on my old logitech 3d instead of the one on my new ch cause I like it better. also gives me 15 extra buttons to use.
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: TOMCAT21 on May 10, 2009, 09:22:01 AM
will the computer recognize both joysticks at the same time ? it won't cause a conflict ?
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: Skuzzy on May 10, 2009, 09:25:13 AM
The game will allow up to 8 joysticks to be attached at the same time.  Windows has no problems with it either.  The only potential issues you might have would occur if you moved the sticks to another USB port, as that would cause Windows to generate new ID's for the sticks.

Also, you probably would have issues with the onboard USB ports constantly resetting due to excess power draw from that many devices.  An externally powered USB hub should take care of that.
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: TOMCAT21 on May 10, 2009, 09:30:38 AM
pretty much all 8 of my usb ports are in use. wont a hub cause a drain anyways...my joystick issue only started happening within the last month. i've tried playing around with dampening and recalibrating both in windows and in the game.
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: Eagler on May 10, 2009, 09:33:18 AM
It could be your computer USB voltage causing your calibration issues.
Before you dropped a ton on a ch setup, you may want to pick up a powered usb hub  and see if that helps.
A powered hub helps take the load off your motherboard by supply the USB voltages externally.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182147 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182147)
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: TOMCAT21 on May 10, 2009, 09:42:46 AM
have to try the external hub.... ty
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: Skuzzy on May 10, 2009, 09:49:31 AM
An external POWERED hub.  All USB devices get thier power from the USB bus.  If the current draw exceeds the limits of the USB bus, then devices constantly reset.

If all of your USB ports are inuse, you are probably overdrawing the power they can supply.

An external powered USB hub supplies the connected devices with power, and only draws the minimum needed, from the computer USB bus, to maintain a connection.
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: TOMCAT21 on May 10, 2009, 10:16:44 AM
any outthere you would recommend ?
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: Skuzzy on May 10, 2009, 10:22:59 AM
I have a Belkin that has been working fine on my home computer.

DISCLAIMER:  The above is not an endorsement of product and does not reflect the opinions of my employer.  It is only a comment about something I have personal experience with.  It is not a product my employer endorses nor suggests.
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: CRYPTIC on May 10, 2009, 01:04:40 PM
The hub will definitely help if you are using all your usb inputs like skuzzy said to much draw.  If you decide to go CH get the fighterstick not the combat. The fighterstick has a few more buttons. hope this helps.
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: TOMCAT21 on May 10, 2009, 01:16:34 PM
yes it does....and Skuzzy your 6 is cleared..I did ask you to begin with.. :salute
Title: Re: constant re-calibration of joystick
Post by: skullman on May 10, 2009, 02:22:51 PM
I got the combat stick with throttle an pedals an have a ton of buttons-love the ch it is so smooth