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Title: Respect
Post by: Cajunn on May 07, 2009, 11:19:03 PM
You know it usually doesn't bother me but for some reason it hit a nerve tonight. I try to be respectful to everyone in the game bish, knit, rook it doesn't matter. But you know it just tics me off when you have a whole squad that will not Salute you weather you shoot them down or they shoot you down. Do they think there better than everyone else, do they think that someone like me isn't worthy of being in the same arena as thou holy one's, what is the deal. I put my life in danger everyday for my fellow man with out asking for reward or recognition and I never will, it's my nature to be friendly and respectful to other people. And to send a jester of respect and friendliness as a salute to some one that enjoys playing this game as I do and to get back nothing from more than one in the same squad just tramples on everything that I believe. I don't expect it from everyone and I do it just out of respect, but is it so hard to type .S (name).   
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Delirium on May 07, 2009, 11:41:16 PM
What squad are you referring to?

I've heard a lot of complaints about Corky, I hear he got muted just the other night for being inflammatory towards TxMom.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Cajunn on May 07, 2009, 11:45:37 PM
What squad are you referring to?

I've heard a lot of complaints about Corky, I hear he got muted just the other night for being inflammatory towards TxMom.

I don't think I will name the squad, because I thought they were respected and I guess I was wrong, and I killed enough of them and they killed me enough tonight that they know who they are.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: LCCajun on May 07, 2009, 11:46:16 PM
<S> Cajun there are some ppl who are just d*cks try not to let it bother you to much man. Lata bro.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: crazyivan on May 08, 2009, 12:15:44 AM
Well it wasn't me I haven't been on in 3 weeks. :rofl   :salute cajun   , gezz theres 2 of you  :salute other cajun.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Cajunn on May 08, 2009, 12:29:43 AM
Well it wasn't me I haven't been on in 3 weeks. :rofl   :salute cajun   , gezz theres 2 of you  :salute other cajun.

We are takeing over the world, one plate of cajun food at a time  :rofl

 :salute
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Krusty on May 08, 2009, 12:30:46 AM
We got along for years before the ".s" command was introduced. Whether you give a <S> or not doesn't mean diddley towards how you feel about the person.

In MY personal humble opinion, sending <S> all the time is like chatting on AOL with all the arbitrary built-in acronyms, a private in-joke for kids "in the know" -- but it's not funny.

So I don't send salutes. Has nothing to do with the quality of the fight or how I feel about the person. Most times I'll gripe on squad vox if I don't like a guy or maybe on 200 if I do. Sometimes (very rarely) I'll give out a <S> if I think the other guy warrants it and I'm in a good mood.

Doesn't mean others DON'T deserve it. Means I don't often use what I feel to be a lame game feature.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Cajunn on May 08, 2009, 12:36:37 AM
We got along for years before the ".s" command was introduced. Whether you give a <S> or not doesn't mean diddley towards how you feel about the person.

In MY personal humble opinion, sending <S> all the time is like chatting on AOL with all the arbitrary built-in acronyms, a private in-joke for kids "in the know" -- but it's not funny.

So I don't send salutes. Has nothing to do with the quality of the fight or how I feel about the person. Most times I'll gripe on squad vox if I don't like a guy or maybe on 200 if I do. Sometimes (very rarely) I'll give out a <S> if I think the other guy warrants it and I'm in a good mood.

Doesn't mean others DON'T deserve it. Means I don't often use what I feel to be a lame game feature.


 I don't think its lame, if its used to send a message out of respect across to another player. I think its a quick and easy notion of hey good fight..... :salute "no pun intended"
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: CAP1 on May 08, 2009, 12:51:04 AM
You know it usually doesn't bother me but for some reason it hit a nerve tonight. I try to be respectful to everyone in the game bish, knit, rook it doesn't matter. But you know it just tics me off when you have a whole squad that will not Salute you weather you shoot them down or they shoot you down. Do they think there better than everyone else, do they think that someone like me isn't worthy of being in the same arena as thou holy one's, what is the deal. I put my life in danger everyday for my fellow man with out asking for reward or recognition and I never will, it's my nature to be friendly and respectful to other people. And to send a jester of respect and friendliness as a salute to some one that enjoys playing this game as I do and to get back nothing from more than one in the same squad just tramples on everything that I believe. I don't expect it from everyone and I do it just out of respect, but is it so hard to type .S (name).   

some simply just don't believe in it. no big deal really......just be yourself, and don't let it bother ya....and keep having fun dude.

<<S>>
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: LCCajun on May 08, 2009, 01:03:41 AM
Well it wasn't me I haven't been on in 3 weeks. :rofl   :salute cajun   , gezz theres 2 of you  :salute other cajun.

I actually seen another Cajun in game about two days ago. So lets see there is me (LCCajuun), Cajunn, and Cajun that is kinda scary lol <S>.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Guppy35 on May 08, 2009, 01:06:58 AM
You know it usually doesn't bother me but for some reason it hit a nerve tonight. I try to be respectful to everyone in the game bish, knit, rook it doesn't matter. But you know it just tics me off when you have a whole squad that will not Salute you weather you shoot them down or they shoot you down. Do they think there better than everyone else, do they think that someone like me isn't worthy of being in the same arena as thou holy one's, what is the deal. I put my life in danger everyday for my fellow man with out asking for reward or recognition and I never will, it's my nature to be friendly and respectful to other people. And to send a jester of respect and friendliness as a salute to some one that enjoys playing this game as I do and to get back nothing from more than one in the same squad just tramples on everything that I believe. I don't expect it from everyone and I do it just out of respect, but is it so hard to type .S (name).   


As long as you are ok with yourself, what does it matter?  You said something in your post about not asking for reward or recognition.  If you can get by in the real world without it, I wouldn't let the cartoon world bother you :)



Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Cajunn on May 08, 2009, 01:16:56 AM
I hear what all you guys are saying, and its not going to change who I am and how I play the game, but sometimes a friendly jester is just a friendly jester and I wanted them to know it. :salute   
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: A8TOOL on May 08, 2009, 01:26:05 AM
<S> Cajun there are some ppl who are just d*cks try not to let it bother you to much man. Lata bro.

Take Cajuns advice and don't let it worry you to much.

I forget to give them all the time mostly because I'm still busy or the text buffer is moving so fast I'm missing a lot of messages. I had 200 turned off for almost two years now it's on 1/2 the time I play. I'm sure it will be going off again this summer as usual.

You can't hold it against them if they can't see it or to busy to say WTG NF

Title: Re: Respect
Post by: WMLute on May 08, 2009, 01:32:14 AM
I TRY to make a point to type "g/k" (good kill) or "n/s" (nice shot) before my plane hits the ground and i'm in the tower.

Sometimes when I SEE the name who shot me I don't wanna salute 'em which is why I try to type it before I hit the ground and see who got me.  This way hated nme, unknown dweeb, or virtual comrade all will get a "good kill" by me equally.

Just something I do.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: frank3 on May 08, 2009, 05:31:51 AM
We got along for years before the ".s" command was introduced. Whether you give a <S> or not doesn't mean diddley towards how you feel about the person.

In MY personal humble opinion, sending <S> all the time is like chatting on AOL with all the arbitrary built-in acronyms, a private in-joke for kids "in the know" -- but it's not funny.

So I don't send salutes. Has nothing to do with the quality of the fight or how I feel about the person. Most times I'll gripe on squad vox if I don't like a guy or maybe on 200 if I do. Sometimes (very rarely) I'll give out a <S> if I think the other guy warrants it and I'm in a good mood.

Doesn't mean others DON'T deserve it. Means I don't often use what I feel to be a lame game feature.

You used to <S> me all the time back in the days  :D
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: lyric1 on May 08, 2009, 07:13:25 AM
I don't typically initiate them win loose or draw. Will reply to a salute most times.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: PFactorDave on May 08, 2009, 07:21:05 AM
I think salutes are tossed around way too freely.   So much so, that they become pretty meaningless.  So, I only salute someone when it was an outstanding fight.  Or if they salute me first, I will usually slute them back (unless they just did something really dweeby, then I ignore them).

Title: Re: Respect
Post by: texasmom on May 08, 2009, 07:32:44 AM
I've heard a lot of complaints about Corky, I hear he got muted just the other night for being inflammatory towards TxMom.

I think you're joshing around. *grin* Corky's not ever rude to anyone.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: pluck on May 08, 2009, 07:42:25 AM
<S> usually given to recognize a good fight.  Keep in mind, what you may find as a good fight, the other may not.  It doesn't necessarily imply a lack of respect.  I see <S> being used much more frequently, and maybe taking on a bit of a different meaning.  For example, If I shoot a guy down 4 times and he gets me 4 times trying to HO and pick me, I'm not going to send a <S> just because we were shooting at each other.  Doesn't mean I don't respect the person...just fight wise it wasn't really <S>'able imho.  
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: The Fugitive on May 08, 2009, 07:43:05 AM
I think salutes are tossed around way too freely.   So much so, that they become pretty meaningless.  So, I only salute someone when it was an outstanding fight.  Or if they salute me first, I will usually slute them back (unless they just did something really dweeby, then I ignore them).



Same here, I'll give one if my opponent gave me a good fight, but I too think they are given out way to easily. Some guy picks me while I'm fighting 2 more then gives me a salute... what do you say to that  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Obie303 on May 08, 2009, 07:45:09 AM
What squad are you referring to?

I've heard a lot of complaints about Corky, I hear he got muted just the other night for being inflammatory towards TxMom.
:huh
I think you're joshing around. *grin* Corky's not ever rude to anyone.

And here I thought the world was finally coming un-glued. :D

Like the other's have said, don't worry about it.  I've sent salutes in the past to what I thought was a good fight only to be verbally bashed on 200.  (I don't tune in but squaddies might tell me that I ticked somebody off).  Now I send them out only to the really good fights.  Those are very rare these days.

<S>
Obie
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Ranger45 on May 08, 2009, 07:57:07 AM
Good fights should be saluted, cheap shots shouldn't.  On the other hand I have ran into one "Respected" player multiple times and had very good fights with them only to be accused of a cheap shot when they die, good old fashion salute would have been very apropriate.   :salute
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: ink on May 08, 2009, 08:06:03 AM
I can understand what the OP is saying, and what every one else is saying also,   sometimes it is nice to receive a <S> when the fight was worthy. I try to give out a <S> when  ever a good fight was had,   I think Lute said he sends one before he hits the ground, I will do the same thing,

 but if I am being hourded The <S> or G/F I send is usually sarcastic and meant to piss them off.

although if I am fighting someone who does a great job of killing me I will always send a <S> even if he did it in a way that was "dweeby" except for a vulch, they get no <S>.

ink
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: humble on May 08, 2009, 08:12:15 AM
I almost always GK or good shot like lute, often before I hit the ground. We all miss <S>'s we'd like to return (either we're still up and fighting or to busy  :furious :furious if we're not). However I'll ignore a <S> once in awhile because I don't think a reply is warranted...
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: SKJohn on May 08, 2009, 08:15:09 AM
I hear what all you guys are saying, and its not going to change who I am and how I play the game, but sometimes a friendly jester is just a friendly jester and I wanted them to know it. :salute   

I think the word you're looking for is "gesture", not "jester".

I like the idea of sending them (the <S>) before you hit the ground and see who it is - that way it is based only on the quality of the fight without allowing your personal feelings towards certain other players or squads to influence the salute. Good idea WMLute!
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: TEShaw on May 08, 2009, 08:18:03 AM

 I don't think its lame, if its used to send a message out of respect across to another player. I think its a quick and easy notion of hey good fight..... :salute "no pun intended"

What is the unintended pun here?

I hear what all you guys are saying, and its not going to change who I am and how I play the game, but sometimes a friendly jester is just a friendly jester and I wanted them to know it. :salute  

Also, is a "jester" something like a joker?
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Saurdaukar on May 08, 2009, 08:58:46 AM
Thin skin.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: whiteman on May 08, 2009, 10:07:03 AM
Same here, I'll give one if my opponent gave me a good fight, but I too think they are given out way to easily. Some guy picks me while I'm fighting 2 more then gives me a salute... what do you say to that  :rolleyes:

You gave them hell and died to a picker, thats how i look at that and send those two a salute.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: dedalos on May 08, 2009, 10:55:57 AM
but is it so hard to type .S (name).   

Well, if you killed me no, it is very easy.  If I killed you, I may be busy with an other plane so yeah, very hard in that case.  Not to mention it is a game and a simple Hi or :p should be enough.  A is a little funny really.  We are not real pilits in a real war ;) 
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: kilz on May 08, 2009, 11:30:31 AM
i love you cajunn  :aok
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Cajunn on May 08, 2009, 12:56:31 PM
I don't monitor 200 so .s (name) is easiest for me
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 08, 2009, 01:21:25 PM
I think you're joshing around. *grin* Corky's not ever rude to anyone.

You've never heard him on vox during SAPP nights.  If one of us was just a half a meter out of formation, we'd be a victim of his verbal lashings.  One night when Mensa messed up on his torpedo run on a town, Corky's tirade was so vicious that poor Mensa started to cry when Corky started to make fun of his peg leg and lazy eye.

Behind closed doors, Corky is a mean.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Bosco123 on May 08, 2009, 03:39:09 PM
I only hold a grudge against people who have a grudge against me, or my squad. There are a few people that, no matter if they kill us, or we kill them, that I will never give a <S> back, nor will they give a <S> back to us.

<S>
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Motherland on May 08, 2009, 03:48:25 PM
I don't monitor 200 so .s (name) is easiest for me
Sometimes people will <S> over 200. I generally try to use the .s function since I usually don't know if the other guy tunes 200, however I've gotten <S>'s from people I don't know over 200 so some obviously just assume that you do (which isn't a terrible assumption, lots of people do tune 200).
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Animl on May 08, 2009, 04:39:21 PM
Grow thicker skin. :)

Salutes are not a requirement, neither are check 6 calls. Appreciate them when you get them, don't sweat the small stuff when you don't.

Dweebs are a dime a dozen, be thankful you're not one of them.

<S>
:)
Animl
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Animl on May 08, 2009, 04:42:21 PM
You've never heard him on vox during SAPP nights.  If one of us was just a half a meter out of formation, we'd be a victim of his verbal lashings.  One night when Mensa messed up on his torpedo run on a town, Corky's tirade was so vicious that poor Mensa started to cry when Corky started to make fun of his peg leg and lazy eye.

Behind closed doors, Corky is a mean.


ack-ack

Quote
Behind closed doors, Corky is a mean.


The horror,......the horror,....the horror

Animl <hides under rock>
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Becinhu on May 08, 2009, 04:49:34 PM
How can Corky complain about formation flying...he barely has enough intact parts to call his ride a plane.  :t
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Shifty on May 08, 2009, 05:15:16 PM
I just saw your other post  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,264419.0.html

If you were in a Spit16 maybe that's why they didn't return a salute. Honestly I rarely return salutes to Spitfire pilots, LA pilots, Typhoon pilots, N1k2 pilots, Chawg pilots, or anybody flying one of the big cannon birds. It's not that I mean them any disrespect, however I don't really respect them for achieving a one ping kill. Some johnny comes along and kills me with his P-40E or C202, I'll salute them. But thats just me.
<S>

Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Rino on May 08, 2009, 06:00:46 PM
     Respect, spit dweeb worries..sounds like someone needs to step back
and take a deep breath.  It's a game, have fun..period  :aok
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Shuffler on May 08, 2009, 06:08:33 PM
I don't monitor 200 so .s (name) is easiest for me

You probably get saluted back on 200 alot and don't know it. I personally only salute a good fight.

As for corkyjr he railed on me for 2 weeks all because on one SAPP mission I did not put enough duct tape on my torpedos to hold them on well enough. He made me get out while in flight to fix it. Spilled half a blender of margaritas all over the downstairs of my 38.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: EskimoJoe on May 08, 2009, 10:44:05 PM
Spilled half a blender of margaritas all over the downstairs of my 38.
That's depressing.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: 100Coogn on May 08, 2009, 11:52:46 PM
Unlike some people here, I do give salutes, and check sixes.  It is at my/your own discretion  to do so, but it does show a little class.  I see that there are some who think they are 'beyond' giving a salute, so to them I say <SMSB>.   To all the rest I say <S>.

Coogan
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: FiLtH on May 09, 2009, 12:23:16 AM
 I do the <S> on 200. Im sure some have .saluted me who werent tuned and thought I was a jerk because they didnt see it.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: DamnedRen on May 09, 2009, 01:32:55 AM
Unlike some people here, I do give salutes, and check sixes.  It is at my/your own discretion  to do so, but it does show a little class.  I see that there are some who think they are 'beyond' giving a salute, so to them I say <SMSB>.   To all the rest I say <S>.

Coogan

I always give a check 6. I prefer not to get one in return. I spend more time watching my 6 than looking out of the front of the cockpit and 80% of check 6's are from someone who is so far away he cannot even see who's behind who. That IMHO leads to a distraction that can possibly negate a gained advantage and extend time in the fight.  I personally prefer to take my chances checking my own 6 than having the above mentioned distractions.

I normally return a <S> to someone who happens to see me up and is saying Hi. I do not give <S>'s for every fight I'm in. If I did that I'd never have time to fly. If I shoot you down or you shoot me down please don't expect a <S> from me as I've already moved on to the next fight and since every single fight is a great one for me anyone who fights me wins/loses should know I had fun!

It has nothing to do with "class" or "beyond" giving a <S>. To quote Paul Harvey, "And that's the rest of the story" . Did you know he's dead?

Ren
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Guppy35 on May 09, 2009, 01:43:18 AM
Quietly taking names and notes.   :furious
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Delirium on May 09, 2009, 01:59:02 AM
Quietly taking names and notes.   :furious

Are you going to edit my posts in the SAPP forums to call me a princess like Skuzzy did in the hardware forum?
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Slash27 on May 09, 2009, 02:41:40 AM
Quietly taking names and notes.   :furious


Notice not a peep out of me. :aok




Sir.




 :confused:
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: crazyivan on May 09, 2009, 02:46:09 AM

Notice not a peep out of me. :aok




Sir.




 :confused:
the ductape wins again.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Unit791 on May 09, 2009, 07:24:31 AM
You know it usually doesn't bother me but for some reason it hit a nerve tonight. I try to be respectful to everyone in the game bish, knit, rook it doesn't matter. But you know it just tics me off when you have a whole squad that will not Salute you weather you shoot them down or they shoot you down. Do they think there better than everyone else, do they think that someone like me isn't worthy of being in the same arena as thou holy one's, what is the deal. I put my life in danger everyday for my fellow man with out asking for reward or recognition and I never will, it's my nature to be friendly and respectful to other people. And to send a jester of respect and friendliness as a salute to some one that enjoys playing this game as I do and to get back nothing from more than one in the same squad just tramples on everything that I believe. I don't expect it from everyone and I do it just out of respect, but is it so hard to type .S (name).   


I got about 4 kills in a Yak once.  None of them put up a fight, as such I saluted none of them.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: SEraider on May 09, 2009, 04:53:38 PM
Cajunn, what ever you do in real life to put our life in danger for the greater good, my respect for you sir. <S>

That being said, there is a difference of being disrespected and not being afforded respect.  If someone in the game does not respect me, that is fine as long as they don't disrespect me.  Respect comes with time.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: CountD90 on May 09, 2009, 05:10:44 PM
Cajunn, what ever you do in real life to put our life in danger for the greater good, my respect for you sir. <S>

That being said, there is a difference of being disrespected and not being afforded respect.  If someone in the game does not respect me, that is fine as long as they don't disrespect me.  Respect comes with time.

I completely agree <S> Cajunn
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Bark0 on May 09, 2009, 05:11:17 PM
I once was in a 5 minute dogfight with someone on the game (Not naming names) and won in a perfect shot on his six. I saluted him, and he Pmed me saying #*!$  You.


 :(
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: 100Coogn on May 09, 2009, 05:22:35 PM
Ren, I'm not saying give a <S> to every fight.  I'm talking about the fights that you know were damn good  and at the end of that fight, the one that survived probably had to bring his/her plane home on crutches.
As far as the check 6's, let me carrify that little.  When I see someone that I am very certain, IMHO, has no clue there is a con on his tail, I will call it out.

PS, Paul Harvey is one of my icons and I miss his stories.  So check 6.

Coogan
 
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: mensa180 on May 09, 2009, 08:50:09 PM
I was told not to speak of my abuse if I ever wanted to see a 38 again :(.

I recall a time when Lazer just looked at Corky funny, we haven't seen him in months.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: DamnedRen on May 10, 2009, 12:50:13 AM
Ren, I'm not saying give a <S> to every fight.  I'm talking about the fights that you know were damn good  and at the end of that fight, the one that survived probably had to bring his/her plane home on crutches.
As far as the check 6's, let me carrify that little.  When I see someone that I am very certain, IMHO, has no clue there is a con on his tail, I will call it out.

PS, Paul Harvey is one of my icons and I miss his stories.  So check 6.

Coogan
 

Roger dat! I'm just saying if you get into a fight with me...and I win, lose or draw...you can bet I had a great fight anyway. With my limited time in the MA I'll already be off fighting someone else. They are all great fights. Some just last longer than others :)

Ren

Title: Re: Respect
Post by: skullman on May 10, 2009, 06:22:20 PM
Just an FYI-I also am a cajun.My family is from Rayne La.deep south coonies.Traced back to moving to that parish in1792.So I is old school cajun. an Laissez Les Bon Temps Roulez
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: stodd on May 10, 2009, 06:55:16 PM
The fights where at the end, im on the edge of my chair sweating is when I usually give a <S>. Or if someone <S>'s me first I usually return it, or if someone totally destroys me or does a nice move.
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: Cajunn on May 11, 2009, 06:55:53 PM
Just an FYI-I also am a cajun.My family is from Rayne La.deep south coonies.Traced back to moving to that parish in1792.So I is old school cajun. an Laissez Les Bon Temps Roulez
>


Oh crap.....Crowley here!
Title: Re: Respect
Post by: RumbleB on May 11, 2009, 10:48:28 PM
I salute back sure but I don't salute people initially very often if at all. Thing is the guys I usually have good fights with, i already have quite a track record with- and we both knew it was a good fight. Usually there'll just be an exchange of comments on the fight rather than a salute. Whether it be hateful or loving!!  :rofl