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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Dastrdly on May 09, 2009, 10:35:33 AM
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my biggest pet peeve with the game is this...... planes flying with 1/2 wing missing
now i know there were a 'few' planes in WWll that managed to make it home in that condion BUT.....
explain how for 1 instance a spit16 can dive out from 15k level on deck & run home with 1/2 wing gone. another P38 diving out 1/2 wing gone & recovering run home. of course all the f4s. 190 1/2 wing gone & stay in the fight & get the kill. there are many other instances 190s f4s spits out running with 1/2 wing missing. guys say easy with a notch of flaps but these guys r to fast to do that.
when engaged with multible apponents you would think it safe to move on to the next target after blowing off a wing tip but in this game it seems not so.
i fly only 2 planes really 110s & niki now ive never experienced any control what so ever once wing tip is missing. infact the 110 barely stays in the air with an eleron missing let alone a wing tip.
u would think if they could manage to stay up it would take alot of work with flight surfaces = slow speed but most can still maintain a good speed.
anyways thats my gripe for the week! lets get reall!!!!!!!!!
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OK.... next time your shot down just cancel your account as "you are dead". That would be more realistic.
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OK.... next time your shot down just cancel your account as "you are dead". That would be more realistic.
:O :rofl :rofl :rofl :rock
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Visually it might look like a half wing is missing due to graphic limitations HT has to use. But damage
wise he might be only missing a wing tip.
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Visually it might look like a half wing is missing due to graphic limitations HT has to use. But damage
wise he might be only missing a wing tip.
Ehhh you might be right about that, but i have landed a 1/2 winged F4U on a CV with gear and tail hook not that hard. I've also done it with a 109K4, Dora, and 190A5. Depending on the wing that's missing it can be very manageable if you use the engine torque, trim, and a lot of rudder.
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Visually it might look like a half wing is missing due to graphic limitations HT has to use. But damage
wise he might be only missing a wing tip.
:aok
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I read an account from 1 of the well known P-51 drivers that he got latched on with a 109 and they went back and forth. He finally got behind him and fired a burst that took off 2 or 3 feet of the 109's wing tip...the 109 reversed as soon as he started to hit and continued the fight which ended when the pony driver dove into a cloud and headed for home...so even IRL that type of stuff did happen.
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Man, haven't you ever watched Star Trek? When the hull is breeched, you simply engage a force field and it's just like new. :D
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Man, haven't you ever watched Star Trek? When the hull is breeched, you simply engage a force field and it's just like new. :D
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Man, haven't you ever watched Star Trek? When the hull is breeched, you simply engage a force field and it's just like new. :D
Always wondered why they even bother with a hull... Why not one big force field bubble or something? :aok
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I actually managed to land a F4U with 3/4 of both wings shot off. :rock :rock
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I actually managed to land a F4U with 3/4 of both wings shot off. :rock :rock
I'll pwn you with my clipped wing goonie with FREAKIN' LASERS!!!!!!! :rock :rofl
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Always wondered why they even bother with a hull... Why not one big force field bubble or something? :aok
Because force fields require lots of power and to create a force field that big would prevent you from charging your phaser banks or your photon torpedoes. And any Starfleet commander knows that losing your weapons in the middle of a fight is a bad thing. It's all about energy management for your starship, and sheesh you'd think a cartoon ww2 fighter pilot would know something about E management. :rolleyes:
:D :D :D :D
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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LOL i remember u saying this on 200 :D
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Always wondered why they even bother with a hull... Why not one big force field bubble or something? :aok
would you sleep or take a dump in a glass house?
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would you sleep or take a dump in a glass house?
(http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t360/rvflyer/image001.jpg)
(http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t360/rvflyer/image002.jpg)
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would you sleep or take a dump in a glass house?
No... But give me a house made out of force fields and I'll crap in the living room! :D
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OK.... next time your shot down just cancel your account as "you are dead". That would be more realistic.
:O :rofl
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(http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t360/rvflyer/image001.jpg)
(http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t360/rvflyer/image002.jpg)
no but i would paint the walls with unnamed body fluids :rock
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It is possible to fly with half a wing gone. Now, 9/16s of a wing gone? That would just be beyond the pale and WRONG.
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This guy not only flew, but landed after a mid-air during
a training exercise.
(http://www.strangemilitary.com/images/content/110099.jpg)
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OK.... next time your shot down just cancel your account as "you are dead". That would be more realistic.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Sorry dast but this is dam funny
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:O :O But still that plane has a computer to help with stability and such, plus the speed of the plane helps create the lift needed to stay airborne. Some of the planes in AH are capable of flying around at 150 mph if they have flaps down, you would think at such low speeds the plane would have the lift to keep the plane stable enough to fly.
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:O :O But still that plane has a computer to help with stability and such, plus the speed of the plane helps create the lift needed to stay airborne. Some of the planes in AH are capable of flying around at 150 mph if they have flaps down, you would think at such low speeds the plane would have the lift to keep the plane stable enough to fly.
If you have flaps down, you are evening out the lift between the two wings. The problem with flying with half of one wing isn't so much that you've lost lift, but that you've lost lift asymmetrically. It's actually easier to fly with half of both wings gone (provided you've still got your rudder :) ) BTW you can fly most planes a lot slower than 150 mph ;)
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I know you can fly planes a lot slower than 150 but a F4U evading at around 150 mph is a tad bit extreme I think
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planes like the F6 can usually keep on fighting with 1/2 a wing. I know of many times when I've lost half a wing and still out turned and killed the other guy, even spit 16's and zero's.
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I've never been able to effectively evade, nor have I ever seen anybody evade, with 1 half of a wing. The only way you can really 'evade' is to trust that your weird irregular flightpath and low speed throws off the other guys aim.
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This guy not only flew, but landed after a mid-air during
a training exercise.
(http://www.strangemilitary.com/images/content/110099.jpg)
The pics of the F15 flying and landing are fake. The closeup pics on the ground are real. This one is also real:
(http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/files/mace/MissingWing.jpg)
As far as being able to dive out and recover with such damage this is exactly what the F14 did. He sliced through another F14 during ACM and immediately entered a high-speed spiral at 450kts+ but managed to recover and land in Singapore. The F14 did not have the computer augmented flight control system of the F15. It only had analog stability augmentation which damped pitch/roll/yaw oscillations yet the F14 still made a successful landing.
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I'll pwn you with my clipped wing goonie with FREAKIN' LASERS!!!!!!! :rock :rofl
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/c47mkxvi.bmp)
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:rofl :rofl :aok Those are the pictures I saw that made me make that post haha
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The pics of the F15 flying and landing are fake. The closeup pics on the ground are real. This one is also real:
(http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/files/mace/MissingWing.jpg)
As far as being able to dive out and recover with such damage this is exactly what the F14 did. He sliced through another F14 during ACM and immediately entered a high-speed spiral at 450kts+ but managed to recover and land in Singapore. The F14 did not have the computer augmented flight control system of the F15. It only had analog stability augmentation which damped pitch/roll/yaw oscillations yet the F14 still made a successful landing.
The details I have heard/read was that this Israeli F-15 collided with an A-4 on
1 May 1983. It was an F15D number 957 piloted by Zivi Nedivi with WSO Gal
Yeho'ar, both of whom left the aircraft on the ground.
If it is a fake, then it's an awfully long lived and elaborate one, cause I have
heard about it for years.
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The details I have heard/read was that this Israeli F-15 collided with an A-4 on
1 May 1983. It was an F15D number 957 piloted by Zivi Nedivi with WSO Gal
Yeho'ar, both of whom left the aircraft on the ground.
If it is a fake, then it's an awfully long lived and elaborate one, cause I have
heard about it for years.
Please go back and re-read my post, I didn't say the mishap was faked. Yes, the Israeli F15 incident actually happened but some of the pictures posted are fake. The actual photos of the damaged plane are the four on the right. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th pictures on the left, allegedly of the damaged airplane in flight are fake. These were simply generated for the History channel video reconstruction.
I'm just pointing out that there are many images which purport to show something interesting are fake. If you're interested in the details regarding how I know they're fake then let me know. I can also tell you exactly how I know the picture of the F14 with nine feet of it's starboard wing missing is real.
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Know/were the pilot Mace? :)
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Know/were the pilot Mace? :)
LOL, yes I know the pilot and no, it wasn't me. The pilot was one of our junior pilots in VF213, Fitz Fitzgerald, and his RIO was Scooter Lamoreaux. I was the ASO and did the mishap investigation. The picture was taken from one of our other F14's as Fitz and Scooter were trying to reach Singapore since there was no way they'd be able to make a CV landing. We were actually thinking about having them just do a fly-by of the Lincoln and eject but figured there may be a chance to save the plane. As it ended up the plane never flew again anyway as the titanium wingbox was twisted and could never be repaired or replaced.
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I used to wonder about WWII planes being able to fly with half a wing as well, until I saw this picture of a heavily damaged TBM flying back home:
(http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/misc/aces_high/tbmHalfWing.jpg)
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Well most planes, dont include a tampax, I mean Tempest with Right wing damage. Thats a pain in the prettythang to land. :pray
Either that or the pressure of "Oh crap there goes a 50 spot" :cry