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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: brady on October 31, 2000, 09:38:00 AM
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Well, will we then?, and if they were what would we fly and why.
He 115
Ar 196
N1K Kyofu
Their are so many...
Brady
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From News and Info BBS by Pyro:
Work has been underway on 1.05. Nate's F6F and Superfly's TBM are coming along nicely and we'll be
starting on the ships soon. We want the naval aspect to be more than just a carrier cruising around the
terrain. There are a lot of elements we're looking to include in this system for 1.05 and beyond.
Player-controlled task forces, player-controlled anti-aircraft and shore bombardment batteries, supply
ship convoys, PT boats, LVTs, PT boat and seaplane tenders, shipyards, etc. These additions will create
a dynamic target-rich environment that will open up new aspects of gameplay. We'll talk more about what
to expect in 1.05 and how it will work as it comes together.
[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 10-31-2000).]
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N1K1...that one's a no-brainer.
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Also:
A6M2-N "RUFE"
And:
Spitfire Mk IX! OK, so there was only one prototype... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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O BOY, OH BOY, OH BOY! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Brady
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4 years I've been flying WWII flight sims. $ years I've been waiting for someone to do float planes & flying boats. Say it's so guys!
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Please please please bring the PBY Catalina to Aces High (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I just love that plane!
Daniel, aka CyranoAH
[This message has been edited by CyranoAH (edited 11-01-2000).]
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SIIIII PORFIIIIII EL CATALINAAAAA!!!
uy... mmmmmmm...
YEEEEEEEES PLEASEEEEEEEE CATALINAAAAAAAA!!!!
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The problem with bringing the Catalina is that you'd have to shoot it down. Can anyone really bring themselves to do that?
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I wan't my Walrus II (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Short Sunderland would be cool. There's nothing quite like being a really big target =)
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Graywolfe <tim@flibble.org>
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H8K2 "Emily"
A well defended, tough Axis bomber/transport/recon aircraft. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
(http://www.platon.co.jp/~vought/photo/H8K2/ki17.jpg)
The Emily was capable of carrying eight 250 kilogram (550 pound) bombs or two 800 kilogram (1,764 pound) torpedoes. The transport version could carry 64 troops.
(http://www.platon.co.jp/~vought/photo/H8K2/ki09.jpg)
Armed with 5 20mm cannon as well as some lighter calibre guns.
Armament:
Bow turret:
1 x 20 mm type 99 model 1 cannon
Dorsal Turret:
1 x 20 mm type 99 model 1 cannon
Cockpit hatch:
1 x .3 (7.7 mm) type 92 machine gun
Side hatches:
2 x .3 (7.7 mm) type 92 machine guns
Ventral hatch:
1 x .3 (7.7 mm) type 92 machine gun
Beam Blisters:
2 x 20 mm type 99 model 1 cannon
Tail Turret:
1 x .20 mm type 99 model 1 cannon
Here's a waist gun, 20mm cannon, position, without the gun:
(http://www.platon.co.jp/~vought/photo/H8K2/ki14.jpg)
Each crew position was armored, as were the engines and the fuel tanks were self sealing. This was one of the toughest, if not toughest, aircraft of the Pacific War.
Here's more:
Captured Japanese Kawanishi H8K2 "Emily" at Oak Harbor in
December 1945. With an endurance of 24 hours, the aircraft was one
of the best flying-boats of the war. Armed with five 20mm cannons
in powered turrets, allied fighter pilots treated the "Emily" with respect.
(Photo courtesy of the National Archives)
(http://www.pbyma.org/images/emily_at_oh_12-45.jpg)
The first use of the Emily came in March, 1942.
167 Emilys were built.
I want. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Sisu
-Karnak
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<Gets down on knees in front of computer - head bowed to keyboard>
"Please oh HTC give us the Sunderland and I promise to be good - amen"
Sparks
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If your going to dream go all the way.............I want them alllllll,Nice posts guys (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Brady
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Bring the cat!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
(http://www.pby.com/Photos/PBY-5/EMit5_01.jpg)
(http://www.pby.com/Photos/PBY-5/sdam5_34.jpg)
Daniel, aka CyranoAH
[This message has been edited by CyranoAH (edited 11-07-2000).]
[This message has been edited by CyranoAH (edited 11-07-2000).]
[This message has been edited by CyranoAH (edited 11-07-2000).]
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Catalina (http://smilecwm.tripod.com/net2/love.gif)
Sunderland (http://smilecwm.tripod.com/net2/love.gif)
Emily (http://smilecwm.tripod.com/net2/love.gif)
Please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please !!!
please !!
One of my evergreen dreams is to buy a Catalina and use it as flying yacht.
Only problem is money (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
[This message has been edited by Naso (edited 11-07-2000).]
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One question... what can you do with them??
Ok so the emily is a bomber, the sunderland could be used as an anti-sub plane, but wasn't the catalina purely recon?
Btw I see it already flying that sunderland at 50 feet of the water towards an enemy CV trying to torpedo it while avoiding the AAA (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Just joking guys... I would also like to see some seaplanes in this game (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Bee
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JENG,
The Catalina was also an anti-sub aircraft as well as rescue.
Also Jigster the N1K1 was NOT a float plane the N1K was.
(http://www.modelingmadness.com/scotts/axis/rex.jpg)
(http://www.j-aircraft.com/gallery/navy/N1K1-J%20Gallery_files/Shiden.jpg)
There is a pretty big difference.
Spritle
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N1K1 is the float plane, the N1K1-Ja was the first land based variant.
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I think any float plane or flying boat is going to have relatively poor performance, but thats ok, that's how it was, I believe.
I hope flight models will include such things as taxiing, sea spray, bobbing up and down in the seas, getting up on the step and having to rock ailerons side to side to break loose from the water in certain planes, etc.
It will be interesting to see how these will fit into strategy...
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Keep all those Flying Boats, I want this:
(http://lizking.com/nmrufe.jpg)
More pics from the Nimitz Museum in Fredricksburg, Texas:
http://lizking.com/nimitz.htm (http://lizking.com/nimitz.htm)
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JENG said:
> Ok so the emily is a bomber, the sunderland could be used as an anti-sub plane, but wasn't
> the catalina purely recon?
A big NO to that. The "Black Cats" used torps, bombs, depth charges, .50cals, and the kitchen sink in the Pacific.
They did a lot of damage and were part of the turn of the war for the Allied forces.
Radar and BIG balls were the order of the day....
> Bee
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M.C.202
Dino in Reno
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Uhh, why is that N1K1-J on a carrier deck? It was solely a land-based fighter... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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A big NO to that. The "Black Cats" used torps, bombs, depth charges, .50cals, and the kitchen sink in the Pacific.
They did a lot of damage and were part of the turn of the war for the Allied forces.
Radar and BIG balls were the order of the day....
> Bee
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Bring on the cat. Anyone ever play "Aces of the Pacific"? Best boxed WWII flight sim of it's time. Loved getting a zero and attacking cats... Great to do it in AH too...
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A revelation ahhhhhhhh,Ok as to how are we going to use them,well troops from the sea!
Hears how, they have said their will be seaplane tenders. Well after the strike from the carrier goes in u hop in a Ju 52/3mW (the float variant of the venerable JU 52),and deliver your paratroopers.(or you land a Catilina on the scene PBY 5A)
Fighter cover is provided by a N1k(or a Rufe),A strike could be flow by a Cat or an Emily, or a He 115, or a Cant Z.506B,their are lots of sea planes that pack enough bombs to neutralize a scene.
The Baltimore Class cruiser we are to get also carried float planes launched them and recovered them, you could use a Kingfisher or a Seahawk to spot for the Guns look for incoming PT boats ack as a defensive fighter,ect.They carried 4 planes and had to catapults.
Sea planes also carried torpedos the He 115 and the Cant Z.506B to name but 2.
Now as far a seaplane tender I would wish for a Ise class (converted battleship whose after turrets were removed to create a flight deck) Armament was 8-14inch,16 5inchDP 57 25mm, and 22 seaplanes (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)(her sister ship was named Hyuga both saw action)
Brady
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Originally posted by brady:
A revelation ahhhhhhhh,Ok as to how are we going to use them,well troops from the sea!
Hears how, they have said their will be seaplane tenders. Well after the strike from the carrier goes in u hop in a Ju 52/3mW (the float variant of the venerable JU 52),and deliver your paratroopers.(or you land a Catilina on the scene PBY 5A)
Fighter cover is provided by a N1k(or a Rufe),A strike could be flow by a Cat or an Emily, or a He 115, or a Cant Z.506B,their are lots of sea planes that pack enough bombs to neutralize a scene.
The Baltimore Class cruiser we are to get also carried float planes launched them and recovered them, you could use a Kingfisher or a Seahawk to spot for the Guns look for incoming PT boats ack as a defensive fighter,ect.They carried 4 planes and had to catapults.
Sea planes also carried torpedos the He 115 and the Cant Z.506B to name but 2.
Now as far a seaplane tender I would wish for a Ise class (converted battleship whose after turrets were removed to create a flight deck) Armament was 8-14inch,16 5inchDP 57 25mm, and 22 seaplanes (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)(her sister ship was named Hyuga both saw action)
Brady
Now now, why bother with the Ju 52 when there are perfectly capable Do 18's around?
- Jig
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ssfka said:
> Bring on the cat. Anyone ever play "Aces of the Pacific"? Best boxed WWII flight sim of
> it's time. Loved getting a zero and attacking cats... Great to do it in AH too..
At night? They were called "Black Cats" for a reason. If there are big boats, ie CA's, BB's, CV's, there should be night actions against them, air and sea.
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M.C.202
Dino in Reno
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a seaplane rating addon to your SEL private only costs 500 us dollars here in FLA.... so come and get it........
LaVa the real drunk pilot that needs a flying job!!!
anyone hiring a low time pilot??
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I see teh main reason for Float planes to be increase teh RADAR range. If playing over large water RADAR is not going to see everything so you have to do long range scout, these could send contact reports, and I guess try to attack. I would like some sea Planes how about the Curtis seaHAWK
? uNCLEbUCK
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I would love to shoot all of them down (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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LJK_Raubvogel
LuftJägerKorps (http://www.luftjagerkorps.com)