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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: rogwar on May 11, 2009, 10:18:39 PM
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Picked up some good information from another forum. A local country doc in our fishing club mentioned that old wive's tale methods or typical home remedies often tend to make the parasite puke tick juice into your blood stream. This makes a worse, more itch and greater chance for lyme disease bite. Typical Wally World tweezers usually are not good.
CDC recommendation on tick removal:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/lyme/ld_tickremoval.htm (http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/lyme/ld_tickremoval.htm)
(http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/lyme/images/TickRemoval_92107.gif)
Remove a tick from your skin as soon as you notice it. Use fine-tipped tweezers to firmly grasp the tick very close to your skin. With a steady motion, pull the tick’s body away from your skin. Then clean your skin with soap and warm water. Throw the dead tick away with your household trash.
Avoid crushing the tick’s body. Do not be alarmed if the tick’s mouthparts remain in the skin. Once the mouthparts are removed from the rest of the tick, it can no longer transmit the Lyme disease bacteria. If you accidentally crush the tick, clean your skin with soap and warm water or alcohol.
Don’t use petroleum jelly, a hot match, nail polish, or other products to remove a tick.
He talked about some different tick removal tools and I happened to find some examples here after searching the net. He mentioned a set of very fine tweezers are the best if you can find them.
Anyway just trying to help.
http://placervillevet.com/ticktools.htm (http://placervillevet.com/ticktools.htm)
Always a good idea to read the science....read what doctors read.
http://www.aafp.org/afp/20020815/643.html (http://www.aafp.org/afp/20020815/643.html)
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Good to know. Just wondering how the hell you get a tick on a human.
-FYB
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Good to know. Just wondering how the hell you get a tick on a human.
-FYB
You don't live in the country do you?
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Walk through the woods in the South and you will find ticks and they will find you. They especially like to jump at anything white and burrow their way to the 'blushier' areas like the tops of socks or waistbands but the little guys also like crotch areas. :O
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Good to know. Just wondering how the hell you get a tick on a human.
-FYB
Get out of the house once in a while and they'll find you.
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Get out of the house once in a while and they'll find you.
You sure, never gotten one. Is there a certain place they might be at? I doubt streets, correct?
-FYB
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I am an avid outdoorsman, by this I mean every hunting/fishing season I'm outdoors...and I get ticks all the time. But I have never, NEVER had one "bite" me or whatever you call it. I always get them as they're crawling on me. But something worse than ticks....chiggers...
And may I add poison oak/ivy, although it's not an insect, etc...
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You sure, never gotten one. Is there a certain place they might be at? I doubt streets, correct?
-FYB
believe it or not a friend of my found a tic on her leg at McGuire AFB.
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they hang on leaves, weeds, branches just waiting for you.
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You sure, never gotten one. Is there a certain place they might be at? I doubt streets, correct?
-FYB
Walk under an oak tree even in the city and you might find a tick looking for a ride and a meal.
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Take garlic pills. Having the sulfur in your system will help keep ticks off you.
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Take garlic pills. Having the sulfur in your system will help keep ticks off you.
I think not. I love garlic/onions. Biting insects love me.
I'm spicy.
:D
wrongway
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Good to know. Just wondering how the hell you get a tick on a human.
-FYB
I nominate this for the "Post" of the Year. This is good one. :rofl
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I think not. I love garlic/onions. Biting insects love me.
I'm spicy.
:D
wrongway
It works. ticks dont like sulfur. you need to take the pills everyday to get a good amount in your system. I didn't believe it first till my formal boss telling me this. I thought he was B/S me at first till we where in the field and i had them on me, not him. I event walk through a thick stand of wild onion and no ticks or mosquito.
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In all my life Iv only had one tick on me. I went fishing and after a while I needed to use the bushes. So I walked through some waist high brush into the woods and did what I had to do. When I got home it was late and I went right to bed. In the morning I went to take a shower and I felt something on my right back right where the bottom rib is. I could see what it was so I get out of the shower and look into the mirror. There he was a big fat tick. I got him by the head with my fingernails and pulled him off and he took a ride down the toilet.
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I think not. I love garlic/onions. Biting insects love me.
I'm spicy.
:D
wrongway
Try taking a vitamin B supplement, works for me. I usually get eaten alive (I can't sit around a campfire unless I'm in jeans and a long sleeve shirt), but when I take the B it keeps 90% of the bugs off, especially the punkies and skeeters. Doesn't do too much for deerflies.
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Whats the best way to remove a tick if the head is fully embedded? If you use twisters the head rips off.
Ive always had someone use a match in this situation (the tick backs out quick), any suggestions?
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pour olive oil/ cooking oil over the tick, it suffocates the tick, then turn him rotate the tick in a clockwise direction with a match stick or similar untill he falls out, then clean the wound/ disinfect..funny enough I had to do this yesterday to my dog
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pour olive oil/ cooking oil over the tick, it suffocates the tick, then turn him rotate the tick in a clockwise direction with a match stick or similar untill he falls out, then clean the wound/ disinfect..funny enough I had to do this yesterday to my dog
If you're doing it to yourself (unless you're really hairy), put the oil in a little plastic cup or something similar and hold it over the tick- it'll let go to try and keep from drowning. Most of the time anyway- no method is foolproof.
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Anybody from the last couple of posts actually read the medical advice?
What the hell does the CDC know anyway....
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What the hell does the CDC know anyway....
Considering that they tell us every six months that we're all going to die from the upcoming super pandemic bug, apparently not too farking much.
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Considering that they tell us every six months that we're all going to die from the upcoming super pandemic bug, apparently not too farking much.
Can you provide a source where the Center for Disease Control (CDC) states "that we're all going to die from the upcoming super pandemic bug"?
Would be interesting to see if you actually have or can find such a reference? Or if you are going to respond trying to change the subject or maybe some type of attack.
You could always say, "I'm sorry for being the way I am...".
:rofl
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a lit cigarette works great for leeches - will ticks disengage when things get hot too?
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Good to know. Just wondering how the hell you get a tick on a human.
-FYB
you've never been in the woods?
hell...we spray for them at our r/c field.
that said...i had a few when i was a kid......my grandparents used either alcohol, or a hot match........both worked, and obviously, i never got lymes disease.
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believe it or not a friend of my found a tic on her leg at McGuire AFB.
there;s a lot of woods, and grassy areas around there..and on base too. i'm there every tuesday........
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Got a tick fully embedded?
Use a tweezers.
Think you need oil?
Use a tweezers.
Ready to try a cigarette, or lit match?
Use a tweezers.
Got one in a bad place?
Use a tweezers.
Can't reach it?
Have someone else use the tweezers (they may need instruction, depending on locale...)
If all else fails, head to the doctors office (where they'll use tweezers...).
I "live" in the outdoors, and ticks are very common (both wood ticks and deer ticks). A week ago I was in the woods for an hour, and found eight ticks on me (none embedded yet). The most I've found on me was 11 in one day. My dogs constantly bring in ticks. So do my kids. And my wife. We find ticks almost daily in the spring and summer.
The OP posted good info- the CDC has it right... The longer the tick is embedded, the more likely you are to have disease transmitted. Oil, or the often-substituted Vaseline is way too slow, and often the tick simply dies (while still embedded) before it releases. Cigarettes (or burning matches) add a burn possiblity, which increases the risk of infection at the site of the bite. And often results in a dead (burnt, and still embedded) tick.
My brother in law now swears by the tweezers too. He had a tick embedded under his "family jewels", and enlisted his wife to aid him. She first tried dousing it with fingernail polish remover. When that didn't work, she decided to try a lit match. Flammable liquid/family jewels/fire= BAD! In desperation he called the doctor, who recommended tweezers.
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My brother in law now swears by the tweezers too. He had a tick embedded under his "family jewels", and enlisted his wife to aid him. She first tried dousing it with fingernail polish remover. When that didn't work, she decided to try a lit match. Flammable liquid/family jewels/fire= BAD! In desperation he called the doctor, who recommended tweezers.
:rofl
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How long until the fire went out? :O
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How long until the fire went out? :O
Although I didn't have to see it myself, as I understand it it was more of a "flash" than a flame. Singed hair, and an elevated level of stress...
:O
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:rofl
I've lived in the woods most of my life and have only had a tick once when I was two. I'm kind of glad :D
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Although I didn't have to see it myself, as I understand it it was more of a "flash" than a flame. Singed hair, and an elevated level of stress...
:O
I'd rather be shot in the head than even try to endure that. Fire........the twins......nope.
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Although I didn't have to see it myself, as I understand it it was more of a "flash" than a flame. Singed hair, and an elevated level of stress...
:O
I can just imagine her stamping the fire out.
:O
wrongway
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seem to be worse is spring/summer when doing scouting the hunting spot.
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I'll bet she really knows the proper way to remove ticks.
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I don't buy the whole tweezers bit. I once had 30+ ticks on my legs. Used a leatherman-style knife & they came out fine. Tweezers are for eyebrows.
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Ticks... it's why I take my credit cards with me in the woods... seriously.
I've done a lot of hiking and camping, especially when I was a young scout. Tick nips (the pliers with the specially shaped head for removing/scooping ticks have my respect, they are the best for the squeamish and uncooperative.) or a credit card with some neosporin is what I've always done on trail with good results (just a very strong (don't break your card, but almost), steady scrape and it's done). Flame/heat works 50% of the time in my experience either b/c of two things: 1) the dang tick is just too happy to leave and doesn't care that it's lower half is on fire or 2) you accidental burn the critter too fast and too much and kill it with it's head still in you... also inadvertently burning the "patient" most of the time when you do that. The suffocation methods (butter/margarine/petrolium-jellys) are too slow IMO, and you get that natural itch/tendency to pick/touch/scratch at something the back of your mind knows is there.
a lit cigarette works great for leeches - will ticks disengage when things get hot too?
Yes, if you know how to do it right, cigarettes and... other rolled and smoldering things... are very good and probably the best heat-removal tools sometimes available in the woods. Leeches (especially the healthier sized ones) you typically directly burn to have them release, but with ticks you do not want direct heat (touching), as this will likely burn you and kill the tick before it has a chance to pull anchor. Just floating above/next to it with the cigarette cherry, blow the ash away as necessary and just keep a nice barely-tolerable-roasting temperature (typically 2-5 minutes... so if you're lucky you'll get to smoke the last half of your stoge, but likely won't), and have a little patience or you'll kill the more stubborn ones... and then it's the credit-card method, and half-incinerated ticks just aren't as pleasant (or as easy) to remove and non-incinerated ones IMO.
The best method IMO, on ease of access, time wasted on the "operation", and percentages of head-with-body success is a credit card (if you can tolerate scraping yourself really hard with the edge of a credit card and maybe breaking said credit card... *stares at the ladies* not that I didn't have a female friend go ape on me when I successfully removed a tick off her arm while breaking her mom's credit card in the process... ).
Note: if you dont apply enough pressure you will just scrape the body of the tick off, leaving the head still embeded.
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Tweezers are fine, but I've had trouble getting that fine balance between "grasp firmly" and "oops the darn head just crushed" (leaving the mouth parts in the skin).
I've had great success using...DENTAL FLOSS! Sounds weird, but amazingly effective -- without much risk of destroying the tick parts. Leaving those behind greatly increases the risk of infection.
Here's what you do: Make a small loop as if you were going to make a knot (like the first part of tying your shoes). Pass that over the body of the tick, then cinch in down when you're as close to the skin as possible. The loop will find its way to the smallest, lowest part of the tick. Then pull up firmly and steadily until the tick releases its grip.
One summer we lived in a century old (little) farmhouse, with a field around it that had been let wild. It grew ticks instead of crops, and our dog got ticks almost every time it went out. Never had the dental floss thing fail me once. And, one presumes, the ticks had no cavities....
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I don't buy the whole tweezers bit. I once had 30+ ticks on my legs. Used a leatherman-style knife & they came out fine. Tweezers are for eyebrows.
I do use a knife a lot too, since I generally have a knife on me, but I don't carry a tweezers...
Just slide the blade under them to the head, and grasp them as close to the head as possible by pinching them between the blade and a thumbnail, and gently lift it out.
The credit card would work well that way too.
And then again, if you do manage to break the head off in your skin, a cordless drill can be used to quickly remove it.