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Title: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: Guppy35 on May 11, 2009, 11:23:03 PM

For the evil Spit 16 crowd.  Just to clarify the point.  Can you ID what types of Spits these are? 

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/PT961.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Spitfire1.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Spitfire2.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/EBB1.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Spitfire3.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Spitfire4.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/spitcliped.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/onemore.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Spit1-2.jpg)

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: Soulyss on May 11, 2009, 11:37:48 PM

beats me, but I want to know how many perkies i have to pay for the beer keg load option in pic #2.

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: Strip on May 12, 2009, 12:12:25 AM

Number 3 is a Spit 14......the 5 bladed prop is a good giveaway.

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: Ruah on May 12, 2009, 12:15:16 AM

No. 2 is delivering beer to the front!!

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: mechanic on May 12, 2009, 12:18:31 AM

Are they all MK16s?
 :noid

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: Cajunn on May 12, 2009, 12:19:40 AM

2nd and 6th look like MkXIII, high altitude wings, the clipped or a little harder because from MK V on up could have the clipped wings. the color picture is probably a MK XVI

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: phatzo on May 12, 2009, 12:23:56 AM

they are all very unusual because they are alone

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: hlbly on May 12, 2009, 12:24:01 AM

2nd one is a mkIX flown by johnnie johnson

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: Guppy35 on May 12, 2009, 01:11:37 AM

There are 2 16s in the mix.  So far no one has ID'd one.  Johnnie Johnson's bird is not one pictured.  There is no XIV in the pictures either.

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 12, 2009, 01:50:48 AM

1st: Spit IX
2nd: Spit IX
3rd: Spit XVI
4th: Spit XII
5th: Spit IX
6th: Spit IX
7th: Spit IX
8th: Spit IX
Last pic: Spit XVI

I would have figured they would all be Spit XIIs   ;)


wrongway

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: Guppy35 on May 12, 2009, 01:54:06 AM

Close but you missed on one.  Look closer :)

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: Tordon22 on May 12, 2009, 02:09:32 AM

I'm expecting a good guide on proper identification when someone gets it all right!

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: oakranger on May 12, 2009, 02:31:46 AM

Mk 262

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: A8TOOL on May 12, 2009, 02:57:46 AM

Spit Bernard?

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Spitfire1.jpg)


Suppose you could tell which is which by gun placement and wings clipped or not.

#4 looks odd though.

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: stroker71 on May 12, 2009, 04:08:51 AM

Quote from: A8TOOL on May 12, 2009, 02:57:46 AM

Spit Bernard?

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Spitfire1.jpg)


Suppose you could tell which is which by gun placement and wings clipped or not.

#4 looks odd though.

Those are lights to blind ya on the HO shot!

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: frank3 on May 12, 2009, 05:14:50 AM

Quote from: stroker71 on May 12, 2009, 04:08:51 AM

Those are lights to blind ya on the HO shot!

Brits were running low on high-octane fuel, and modified spitfires to fly on beer (which is just as well, since their beer tastes awfull)

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: Kev367th on May 12, 2009, 07:19:04 AM

Quick glance, I'll look closer later - after work ;)

1) LF IX
2) LF IXe
3) XVI
4) XII
5) LF IXe (Russians got mainly V,s and LF IX)
6) IXe
7) XVI
8) VIII
9) XVI (e wing and hardpoints give it away)

Bit hard to pick up wing bulges etc on some pics.

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: RTHolmes on May 12, 2009, 08:07:45 AM

the colour pic is the BBMF's IX. how many of the IXs were clipped?

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: waystin2 on May 12, 2009, 08:13:53 AM

I have no idea, but I like the keg option! :aok

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: Guppy35 on May 12, 2009, 08:55:24 AM

Spitfire LFIXe.  Only difference from an LFXVIe would be the small rudder on this one.  Same wing and hard points.  Merlin 66
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/PT961.jpg)

Full span wing Spitfire LFIXe.  Again identical to the LFXVIe but with a Rolls Royce Merlin 66 instead of a Packard Merlin 266
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Spitfire1.jpg)

Ahh the evil Spitfire LFXVIe with clipped wings, Merlin 266 but identical to a Spitfire LFIXe
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Spitfire2.jpg)

Spitfire XII, just cause it's my favorite
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/EBB1.jpg)

Spitfire LFIXe supplied to the Russians.  Identical to the LFXVIe outside of the engine maker
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Spitfire3.jpg)

Full span wing Spitfire LFIXe with the same hardpoints etc of the XVIe and identical performance
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Spitfire4.jpg)

Clipped wing Spitfire LFIXe of the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight.  She's a D-Day vet
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/spitcliped.jpg)

Put this one in for Kev.  Spitfire LFVIIIc with clipped wings.  Merlin 66 vs the 266 of the LFXVIe 
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/onemore.jpg)

And an exampe of some of the few Spitfire LFXVIe that had full span wings.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Spit1-2.jpg)


Bottom line is the Spitfire LFXVIe and the Spitfire LFIXe are identical with only the location of the engine production giving them a different designation as the engine performance was the same.

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: CAP1 on May 12, 2009, 11:17:07 AM

Quote from: Guppy35 on May 11, 2009, 11:23:03 PM

For the evil Spit 16 crowd.  Just to clarify the point.  Can you ID what types of Spits these are? 

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/PT961.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Spitfire1.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Spitfire2.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/EBB1.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Spitfire3.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Spitfire4.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/spitcliped.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/onemore.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Spit1-2.jpg)

i dunno, but from the looks of the beer kegs on the second pic, that dude needs serious help with his problem.  :rofl

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: CAP1 on May 12, 2009, 11:24:05 AM

nevermind :rofl

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: Kev367th on May 12, 2009, 11:34:39 AM

8 out of 9, not bad for a quick glance.

XII nearly had me fooled until I noticed the retractible tailwheel and asymetric coolers under the wings :)
.
VIII was tricky also being clipped.

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: Bruv119 on May 12, 2009, 12:30:08 PM

holy spitfires   :O

I nearly jizzed my pants!   great Pics Dan   :aok

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: Karnak on May 12, 2009, 03:03:21 PM

Quote from: AWwrgwy on May 12, 2009, 01:50:48 AM

1st: Spit IX
2nd: Spit IX
3rd: Spit XVI
4th: Spit XII
5th: Spit IX
6th: Spit IX
7th: Spit IX
8th: Spit IX
Last pic: Spit XVI

I would have figured they would all be Spit XIIs   ;)


wrongway

#8 is a Mk VIII

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 12, 2009, 03:44:36 PM

Quote from: Karnak on May 12, 2009, 03:03:21 PM

#8 is a Mk VIII

I can hardly tell one Spit from another.  I researched them all based on Serial Numbers or Squadron Codes.  Should have known it was a Mk VIII from the bigger Vertical Stabilizer.


wrongway

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: Karnak on May 12, 2009, 03:45:55 PM

Quote from: AWwrgwy on May 12, 2009, 03:44:36 PM

I can hardly tell one Spit from another.  I researched them all based on Serial Numbers or Squadron Codes.  Should have known it was a Mk VIII from the bigger Vertical Stabilizer.


wrongway

No, the tail wheel doors showing that it had a retractable tail wheel.  Mk IX and XVIs didn't have that feature and it lacked the Griffon engine bulges of the Mk XII and Mk XIV, or five bladed prop of the Mk XIV.  It is very unlikely to find a Mk VII with clipped wings as it was for high altitude.

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 12, 2009, 03:47:00 PM

Quote from: Karnak on May 12, 2009, 03:45:55 PM

No, the tail wheel doors showing that it had a retractable tail wheel.  Mk IX and XVIs didn't have that feature and it lacked the Griffon engine bulges of the Mk XII and Mk XIV.

See?  I can't tell.

 :)

wrongway

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: Karnak on May 12, 2009, 03:48:22 PM

Aileron length is also a clue.

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: RumbleB on May 12, 2009, 04:36:44 PM

the one third from bottom is clearly a Spit21V MK356

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: Kev367th on May 13, 2009, 08:50:28 AM

Quote from: AWwrgwy on May 12, 2009, 03:44:36 PM

I can hardly tell one Spit from another.  I researched them all based on Serial Numbers or Squadron Codes.  Should have known it was a Mk VIII from the bigger Vertical Stabilizer.


wrongway

VIII and XVI were fitted with the broad chord rudder (bigger vertical stabiliser) from the start, the later LF IXs were also fitted with it.
So it's not a definate pointer to it only being a Mk VIII.

Only the VIII, XII and XIV had retractible tailwheels.
So had to be one of them.
Wasn't a XIV - didn't have 5 blade prop.
Wasn't an XII - Only home units flew the XII.
Had to be a very unusually clipped VIII.

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: bcadoo on May 13, 2009, 11:05:51 AM

A great site for informatin about spitfires:  http://spitfiresite.com/

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: shreck on May 13, 2009, 11:47:26 AM

Spits are for kids   :aok :aok                                 :uhoh

Title: Re: Lets play identify the Spitfire!
Post by: RTHolmes on May 13, 2009, 11:59:05 AM

<< big kid ;)