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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: flakbait on January 21, 2000, 05:52:00 PM
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I have never seen any of the following LW a/c in ANY flight sim:
Me-410 [any variant]
Inflight radar for individual planes
Me-163 [only in WB 1.X beta, never in full version]
He-162 [was POS but would be nice to fly]
He-111
Ar-234
Fw-200 [finally a LW bomber]
Ju-88-C4 [night fighter]
Me-262-B [night fighter]
I'd love to get my claws on a Me-163 Komet. Nothing better than out running everybody for 5 minutes, then having a P-51 Mudstain chew me to pieces (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Whattaya think?
Flakbait
Admin, Delta 6's Flight School
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Originally posted by flakbait:
I have never seen any of the following LW a/c in ANY flight sim:
Me-410 [any variant]
Inflight radar for individual planes
Me-163 [only in WB 1.X beta, never in full version]
He-162 [was POS but would be nice to fly]
He-111
Ar-234
Fw-200 [finally a LW bomber]
Ju-88-C4 [night fighter]
Me-262-B [night fighter]
I'd love to get my claws on a Me-163 Komet. Nothing better than out running everybody for 5 minutes, then having a P-51 Mudstain chew me to pieces (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Whattaya think?
Flakbait
Admin, Delta 6's Flight School
Though not an online sim, EAW (European Air War) has:
Me410
He111
Ju88C
Me262
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Fw-200 [finally a LW bomber]
Or you could say; finally a civilian airliner built for Lufthansa, converted to a long-range reconnaissance type for the IJN, then adopted by the Luftwaffe for the same role. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
It's really not a bomber in the same way the American and British 4 engine types are.
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Dolomite,
Me-262-B, but EAW might have A model? not sure, just a thought.. at least in WB theres 262-A
I Have seen Me163... in WarBirds :P
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Fishu-
Hard to say for sure. EAW has a dedicated following that generates their own aircraft. Meatwater does scenarios and sounds, and the odd plane or two. I haven't checked in in a while, so I'm not sure what they have.
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In no particular order, except for the first one the list (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Me 262
Me 109K-4
He 177
He 219
Fw 190D-9
more power boost for our A-8
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I recall Pyro saying he would like a Me 410 - perhaps in place of a Bf 110. Oh yeah that's an _accurate quote_. As if. Just something I remember seeing some/long time ago.
//fats
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Originally posted by Hristo:
In no particular order, except for the first one the list (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Me 262
Me 109K-4
He 177
He 219
Fw 190D-9
more power boost for our A-8
nono.. Fw 190D-12 or 13!
Ta-152 goes fine too..
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If there's ever anything moving around on the ground to shoot at, give me an Hs 129!
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Upcoming Fw 190A-5 and Fw 190F-8's will be most important additions to Lufwaffe arsenal.
A-5 is better dopgfighter than A-8 which was heavier and meant to bomber killing mostly. F-8 will finally give dedicated Lufwaffe pilots much needed ground attack plane.
Maybe some twing engined bomber would be nice too.
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jochen
Geschwaderkommodore
Jagdgeschwader 2 'Richthofen' (http://personal.inet.fi/cool/jan.nousiainen/JG2) (Warbirds)
If you ever get across the sea to England,
Then maybe at the closing of the day
The bars will all be serving German lager
Which means we won the war - hip hip hooray!
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In an earlier thread the He-100 was mentioned, a picture was included but no performance data. I Know it was a plane with very limited production and only usd to guard the henkel factories but anyone have performance data ?
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He-100 top speed; 746km/h at sea level (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Yes Jochen, A-5 will be great. The A-8 is something like 9700 lbs armed and fueled, but the A-5 is only 8500 lbs. Vroooooom! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Humble, I no longer have the book. It went to an AW as a collected bounty during a scenario <g>
Anyway the HE-100 by all counts was a superior aircraft to the 109. But politics prevailed and Heinkel did not. Good for the Allies, bad for the Axis.
Here is a good page with a nice picture:
http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/67700/he100.htm (http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/67700/he100.htm)
I would dare say the Japanese KI-61 appears to have been heavily influenced by this aircraft. Heinkel had even sold some to Japan.
-Westy
[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 01-27-2000).]
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Can't complain about the 109s (not much anyway) only a/c missing in this series is the Bf109K-4, BUT...this should be so close to the G-10 that I understand why its not modeled.
Lets not forget that the G-10 and K-4 are the same a/c for most part, only the G-10 was a rebuilt G-airframe, up to K standard.
The K-4 was a newly built airframe.
The K-4 addition would be largely cosmetic with the G-10 already present.
Cosmetic is the only gripe I have about the 109...shame that HTC missed the opportunity to have correct shades of colors (RLM 74/75/76 being the same on each a/c that shares (on of) these...not). The Black tulip is also a bit tacky, IMHO. Having said that, overal art is gorgeous. Minor issue.
Okay...Fw190s
indeed
F-8 (A-8 JABO derivative, should be easy)
A-3 as early
A-5 as mid level
D-9 as last
This would give a fairly evened out line of Fw190s in addition to the current A-8. The Dora will arrive anyway, but the A-3, 5 and F-8 might not have been planned, I hope HTC will consider these though. A-3 and 4 are practically the same a/c, the 5 is a good mid war variant. The F-8 will give a good ground attack type, at least until the real Luftwaffe mud movers arrive.
So...2 weeks and then $30,- (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Ruy "Spades" Horta
12 O'clock High!
http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhorta/
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Heinkel 100- top speed at 16,404 ft was 416mph; initial climb rate was 3280ft/min; max range 628 miles. Weapons: one 20mm and two 7.9mm's in nose. Only 25 were built. It was billed in German propaganda as the HE 113. The propaganda was supposed to convince the allies that hundreds of these "superior" planes existed so that resistance was futile. As already pointed out the Luftwaffe stayed with Messerschmidtts.
If there were any large bodies of water in this sim then I would like to see the Arado 196 float plane. Just kick back on the lake with a beer and your favorite bass outfit. HEHE This plane was not a whimp-it carried two 20mm and a 7.9mm forward firing and one or two rear firing machine guns. 546 were built.
[This message has been edited by BBGunn (edited 01-27-2000).]
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Here you go BBGun....
Ready to soar in Norway (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
(http://home.sol.no/~odybvig/Bilder2/a.jpg)
-Westy
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Hey Westy- Thats a great pic. Thanks I needed that!
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Spades, with the current AH bias towards large fuel capacities, the Fw 190G might be the choice over the F. I believe the wing pylons on the G could carry fuel or bombs, while the F just had the pairs of small pylons for 50kg or 70kg bombs.
So with a G you could carry centerline bombs (4x50kg, 1 x 250kg, or 1 x 500 kg) and wing fuel tanks, OR you could carry centerline fuel and 2 x 250 kg on the wings. And if you had a really close target, you could carry bombs on all three stations. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by dolomite:
Though not an online sim, EAW (European Air War) has:
Me410
He111
Ju88C
Me262
Yep. And Their Finest Hour w/Secrets Weapons of the Luftwaffe had some more. (At least I think it was TFH... Could be wrong. Did that once before ya know.) Maybe it Was BoB? Anyway, it was a pretty good sim for its time, (Early 80's?) and I loved it!
Now... What's wrong with the He111? How come all the rants for Luft buffs excluded that venerable workhorse?
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O.E. 'Tern' Dillon
"Live to Fly! Fly to Fight! Fight to Live!"
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Sorry, couldn't resist, but do any of you have any interest in flying the Fi 156. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Now, getting a kill in that plane would be very difficult indeed.
Either that, or the perfect head-on weapon, the Fi 103R (piloted V1), OUCH! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing He 111H-16 as an axis bomber. Either that, or how about a Ju-52 as another transport option?
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Tante Ju! Tante Ju! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
The He-111H is wanted, but not until we get a late-war "uber" bomber first(Ju188S!), to fit in with all the late-war "uber" fighters. When we get more early/mid-war "workhorse" fighters (Spit V, C.202, etc... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)) then it will fit nicely.
Funked;
Aside from the extra cowl machineguns carried by the F, is their really any major difference between the F and G? I read that the G-8/F-8 were virtually the same aircraft, with different bombracks is all.
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My pleasure BBGun. And here's one for Bloom25.
(http://home.sol.no/~odybvig/Bilder2/Ju52.jpg)
This guy has alot of good stuff on his homepage. This is where I got these last two pictures:
http://home.sol.no/~odybvig/index.html (http://home.sol.no/~odybvig/index.html)
-Westy
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Tern,
Average life span of an HE111 with this plane set would be 45 seconds...
For purposes of this game it is undefended.
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Pongo
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Cool Pic Westy!
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Flakbait:
I don't know if the He 162 would be a "POS". The BMW engines were much more reliable than their Jumo counterparts. Certainly it had dangerous handling, but it could reward an expert pilot. The thrust:weight ratio and thus climb and acceleration were much better than the Me 262. Top speed was higher as well. The 162 would be a real "pocket rocket" until the fuel ran out. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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The thing is you guys kind of have a Fw 190F, already. The A-8 is about as armoured as the F was. The loadouts allow for only two 20mms, and the normal bomb loadouts of the F (the 500kg bomb was rarely used in the F. The 250kg was the norm, along with lighter wing-mounted bombs). All you need are tactical ground targets.
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leonid
129 IAP VVS RKKA
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Most F didn't have the armor installed because it killed range.
Also most F had wing pylons for either 4 x 50kg HE bombs or 4 x 70kg cluster bombs, which you acknowledge.
I think we have appropriate targets already, they are just impossible to attack with the SDI AAA system.
[This message has been edited by funked (edited 01-29-2000).]