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Title: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: falcon23 on May 19, 2009, 06:01:58 PM
I currently have the SP3 windowsXP home installed..I want to get rid of SP3 and downgrade back to SP2..Is this possible???Got the disc with SP3..

 Are any of you currently on SP2 and not on SP3??

                                          Thanks, :salute
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: Getback on May 19, 2009, 06:33:08 PM
That one scares me and I ain't afraid of nothin'.
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: Fulmar on May 19, 2009, 07:31:13 PM
Any particular reason for the downgrade?  I haven't had any hitches with SP3, other than a cheapo wireless pci card that's drivers were horrible and didn't like SP3.
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: llama on May 19, 2009, 07:48:50 PM
I can't think of a valid reason to uninstall SP3, but it does have an uninstaller.

Go to Add/Remove Programs in the control panel, put a checkmark next to Show Updates at the top of the dialog box, and then scroll down to "Windows XP Service Pack 3" and click its Remove button.

If it isn't there, then the uninstaller has been removed, probably by a program that claims to regain space by removing unneeded files.

Good luck,
Llama
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: Getback on May 19, 2009, 07:52:49 PM
I just think this is going to cause issues and an eventual reinstall of the os. I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: BaldEagl on May 19, 2009, 09:17:49 PM
Why do you want to uninstall SP3?  If you're having issues it's most likely something other than SP3.  I'm running it on three machines without issues.
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: falcon23 on May 19, 2009, 09:28:46 PM
just seemed like when I had sp2.I had no  issues with graphics in game,and I did not have an issue with my x52 uncalibrating..the only thing that is different other than that is that I have not partitioned my OS..

                                         
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: Denholm on May 19, 2009, 09:32:14 PM
Falcon, there is an uninstaller for it which llama explained how to locate it (if you used SP2 to install SP3. For example, upgrading through Windows Update). I too had problems on my family's main computer when I upgraded it from SP2 to SP3. I think it was driver-related, yet a constant BSOD discouraged me from keeping the update to figure it out.
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: BaldEagl on May 19, 2009, 11:28:43 PM
just seemed like when I had sp2.I had no  issues with graphics in game,and I did not have an issue with my x52 uncalibrating..the only thing that is different other than that is that I have not partitioned my OS..

                                         

Hmmm... interesting.  My AV8R keeps uncalibrating too and now that you mention it it may coincide with the installation of SP3.  If you do uninstall it and it helps post back.  I have to recalibrate about every other log-on now.
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: Masherbrum on May 20, 2009, 12:26:57 AM
I've never installed SP3.   I use SP2.
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: Max on May 20, 2009, 06:49:41 AM
I did not have an issue with my x52 uncalibrating..

                                         

Falc, I highly doubt SP3 has anything to do with your X52. Search around and you'll find dozen's of X52 owners with the same problem. Do yourself a favor and get a CH stick. You can use your X52 throttle but alas, you'll need a set of peds.
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: Skuzzy on May 20, 2009, 07:23:10 AM
The problems I keep hearing about regarding the Saitek sticks appear to have to do with the Saitek control manager.

Or with USB ports which are overloaded.
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: BaldEagl on May 20, 2009, 08:52:05 AM
The problems I keep hearing about regarding the Saitek sticks appear to have to do with the Saitek control manager.

Or with USB ports which are overloaded.

I'm not using the Saitek control panal (never installed it) and the only USB port I'm using on my machine is the one that my Saitek is plugged into.  I've tried a different USB port but the issue remains.

The thing is it worked perfectly until a few months ago then suddenly started to need calibration every other time I logged on.

Sometimes when I get online and it needs calibration, I'll alt-tab out to Windows game controllers and everything is fine so I recalibrate in game and everything is good for a while, maybe even my entire session.  Other times it will once again lose calibration while in the game and need to be recalibrated again even though it's still good in Windows game controllers.  Still other times, it needs calibration in both Windows and in-game and if that's the case then the re-calibration will hold for the entire session.

The in-game but not Windows scenarios seem to happen most often when switching to and from GV's.
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: Masherbrum on May 20, 2009, 11:06:10 AM
I'm not using the Saitek control panal (never installed it) and the only USB port I'm using on my machine is the one that my Saitek is plugged into.  I've tried a different USB port but the issue remains.

The thing is it worked perfectly until a few months ago then suddenly started to need calibration every other time I logged on.

Sometimes when I get online and it needs calibration, I'll alt-tab out to Windows game controllers and everything is fine so I recalibrate in game and everything is good for a while, maybe even my entire session.  Other times it will once again lose calibration while in the game and need to be recalibrated again even though it's still good in Windows game controllers.  Still other times, it needs calibration in both Windows and in-game and if that's the case then the re-calibration will hold for the entire session.

The in-game but not Windows scenarios seem to happen most often when switching to and from GV's.

Buy a CH Fighterstick.   It was the best thing I did after the X45 and X52.   
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: Getback on May 20, 2009, 11:26:20 AM
Buy a CH Fighterstick.   It was the best thing I did after the X45 and X52.   

That's what I did after the x45, x52, and x52 pro. Sheeesh!
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: rob53 on May 20, 2009, 11:56:06 AM
That X52 is drawing a good bit of power.......have you tried a powered USB hub yet?  That may be your answer.

Rob
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: Fulmar on May 20, 2009, 12:31:05 PM
I'm not using the Saitek control panal (never installed it) and the only USB port I'm using on my machine is the one that my Saitek is plugged into.  I've tried a different USB port but the issue remains.

The thing is it worked perfectly until a few months ago then suddenly started to need calibration every other time I logged on.

Sometimes when I get online and it needs calibration, I'll alt-tab out to Windows game controllers and everything is fine so I recalibrate in game and everything is good for a while, maybe even my entire session.  Other times it will once again lose calibration while in the game and need to be recalibrated again even though it's still good in Windows game controllers.  Still other times, it needs calibration in both Windows and in-game and if that's the case then the re-calibration will hold for the entire session.

The in-game but not Windows scenarios seem to happen most often when switching to and from GV's.

I have an AV8R myself (never installed Saitek software) and I never had an issue for the year I was flying (currently don't).  I ran SP3 the whole time, no issues with calibration etc.
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: PFactorDave on May 20, 2009, 10:22:29 PM
MS Sidewinder...  More then 10 years old and works like a dream.  I only occaisionally lust for a stick that has more buttons.  Oh, and I've been running SP3 since its release with no issues at all.
Title: Re: Going from SP3 back to SP2 windows XP home
Post by: OOZ662 on May 21, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
MS Sidewinder...

One of the best joysticks of all time. Many lament over the fact that they're no longer produced.